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Forum Post: Who controls the world?

Posted 4 years ago on Jan. 28, 2016, 10:53 p.m. EST by Shule (2638)
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[-] 2 points by umbrarchist (13) 4 years ago

What has television done to consumerism since Woodrow Wilson was president?


[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 years ago

Tell your members of Congress to reject any attempt to give white-collar criminals a “get out of jail free” card. http://qz.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=D/pVlLRkAzNl2YEs3ipl/kGpK9gn2Wdg

[-] 2 points by Shule (2638) 4 years ago

Compared to the "High Cabal", them white collar crooks are petty thieves. We need to expose the big time scum, and find a way to lock them up.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 years ago

White collar crime = wall street as well as corp(se)oRATions

White collar crime = about as big as it gets = it is into everything everywhere

Further thought on white collar crime http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/anonymous-inc-part-i/ … gov official stance = illegal action taken against? = basically none

white collar crime part 2 http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/anonymous-inc-part-ii/ … Money laundering = big business Still illegal Still a major practice in USA

Considering this. Does anyone wonder about the wealthy & corporate America being frightened of Bernie gaining the presidency?

So besides crimes of greed - how many other types of crime does this laundering business support?

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

Insects control our part of the world. We have mosqu-itoes in our lunatic asylum on the shore of Ruby-Con. Women are hereby warned never to set foot in said lunatic asylum because microcephaly(a.k.a. Retardism) in offspring is possible according to the World Health Organization. The sting of the parasitic wasp may fatten and animate rather than kill the mosqu-itoes.


[-] -1 points by fionachuckles (-375) from Fairview, NJ 4 years ago

❥❥❥ This is the type of conspiracy theory junk that destroyed Occupy's creditability amongst the high end intellectuals like myself.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

So wtf is a ''high end intellectual like'' YOU .. doing hanging out with mere plebs like us?!!! YOU, are the main CONspiracy around here & your m.o. is also long established,identified and understood!! Now that you've established that jart doesn't own the joint - you'll be doing your level best to make sure that you'll make your moves to exacerbate and exasperate, in order to get this place shut down for good .. despite the extent of fkn b-s some of us have to put up with here - because our motivation and focus is the 99%, wherever they may be .. whereas YOU are here for YOU, and then your ''high end'' 1%/0.01%er masters!

You can rest assured TrashyManque' that I & others'll be doing our best to confound & expose you. Did you read the article that Shule linked to? Do you know who Prof. Caroll Quigley is? Maybe you've heard of Prof. Noam Chomsky ...

fiat lux ...

[-] -1 points by fionachuckles (-375) from Fairview, NJ 4 years ago

I don't want this place shut down. I would like it opened up. Signup opened, and possibility for other people than Micah White to submit news articles. I want this place to thrive. Don't you?

And, I have no idea who runs the show here. Jart, Dan, You, I don't know.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

U = http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Concern_troll & the near instant reply, says that you neither looked at nor watched anything! Are you sat there looking for attention ... again?!! Jog on & don't think that stating the fkn obvious somehow makes you a genuine bona fide well wisher of this still (somehow) Extant Forum!!!

  • ''Truth told with bad intent - beats all the lies you can invent'' {William Blake}

temet nosce

[-] -2 points by fionachuckles (-375) from Fairview, NJ 4 years ago

I've grown weary of your links. There was a time you posted tons of conspiracy theory nonsense, and it turned me off to be honest.

[-] 4 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

Yawwwn and for others' info ...

You don't want to read/watch anything that'll question your reactionary p-o-v as u r a fkn fraud!!! Your sole intent is to state the obvious & then pretend you care about The 99%, OR this forum!! Numpty!!!

nosce te ipsum ...

[-] -3 points by fionachuckles (-375) from Fairview, NJ 4 years ago

Are you ready to purge the idiocies from your mind? To move forward by a leap, instead of a baby steps. Are you ready to climb out from the deep dark unlight caves of conspiracy theorism, and don angelic wings of truth to fly above the rest - to become a high end scholar lover of science and poetry? Let me shape you into the best that you can become.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

WTF .. IS THAT?! ''Are you ready to'' .. extract your arrogant, conceited, inflated head out of your own rectum yet?!! Your alleged ''high end intellect'' - is as ever ... directly proportional to your hubris .. you self-absorbed, pompous ass-clown!!! Now more pertinently for The 99% - and by Prof.R.D.Wolff:

verum ex absurdo ...

[-] -2 points by fionachuckles (-375) from Fairview, NJ 4 years ago

I feel you could be so much more. I am offering free lessons that could help you so much.

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23319) 4 years ago

What corporate group is it that you're working for today? Or is it the National Bank of Canada again?

You are right to be worried though, you and the corporations that you troll for, because, well, uh oh, the party may be over for you greedy grubbers, so....run along now.

[-] -1 points by fionachuckles (-375) from Fairview, NJ 4 years ago

Well, I don't work for anyone really. If there's anything I pushed it was for having a bridge to the ground, making this site really matter. Opening it up so we can have more users, etc... I guess you are against those ideas.

[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (23319) 4 years ago

You mean your "bridge to nowhere." Your bridge to trolling and kicking up forum intrigue as opposed to talking about the real issues that matter to the 99%.

And, yes you do work for someone. Out with it. Come on. Tell us who. You and your greedy corporate friends are just upset the forum is still open even if it is closed to new users.

You've been trying to shut up the platform of Occupy Wall Street since day one. And, now, it's become the platform of Bernie Sanders, so you've returned to try to shut it up again.

[-] -1 points by fionachuckles (-375) from Fairview, NJ 4 years ago

Why would anyone, let alone a corporation, be upset if this forum is still open? Only a few users come here. It has no impact at all. It's a private hub for a dozen users.

Have you not read what I wrote. I want the signup page to be opened. I don't want the forum shut down. I think the signup page should be opened, and I think contact should be made with all the last ground occupiers so that we can unite everyone still interested in occupy. I believe this site should become the occupy hub.

I like Bernie Sanders. I hope he wins.

And, how am I trying to shut things down. I have no power here. I don't call the shots. I can't shut anything down. I am asking for the opposite actually.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

Again consider that: ''Truth told with bad intent - beats all the lies you can invent'' - [William Blake]

OF COURSE all of us still here want the forum Sign-Up page opened, you dolt!!! You should petition the owners and cease blaming those who still keep this forum alive for the fact that YOU, the erstwhile and now defunkt DNC/Likud faction & yes, me, squabbled & bickered to such an extent here in the summer of 2014, that jart lost the plot & took out a swathe of us - as you and those like you (& me too), pushed her already RWNJ ass over the edge!! You haven't - nor have you ever had ... anything of value to add to this forum bar your incessant ''Concern Trolling'', so STOP raining stupid here - because we are already well equipped with dumbrellas against the likes of U! Now for the record, 2 GR8 items that u won't read:

ad iudicium ...

[-] 1 points by fionachuckles (-375) from Fairview, NJ 4 years ago

Well, if we all want the forum opened up, then we agree. Why are we arguing?

Can we not ask together to open it up?

You said Jart is no longer in charge, maybe you know who is?

If you do, you can tell them they have my vote to open up the forum again.

What's the point of an online forum if no one can signup? Is it for a bunch of old guys like us playing circle jerks. For a handful of users who have private discussions between each other?

[-] -2 points by fionachuckles (-375) from Fairview, NJ 4 years ago

I hate conspiracy theories that make people feel weak. That make them feel like the world is beyond their control. Some shadowy figures pull the strings and you can't do anything about it.

OWS is about the opposite of that. It's about the idea that we can all contribute to making a difference.

Stop with the messages negativity. We all control the world. We can all make a difference. Start making an impact today!

[-] 3 points by Shule (2638) 4 years ago

One needs to know who the enemies are.

If we all control the world, why then do we have such misery in it. We need to get control of the world.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

The Library of Con-gress needs to have a statue of Thoth erected on site because Thoth, the God of the Moon, Magic and Writing befits the library of our lunatic asylum with diminutive mosqu-itoes in it.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

A good approximation is that 白痴, 笨蛋, 流氓, 黑手党 control the world.

We, the amerikanische Muslims, are the idiots (白痴). Vanguard, Fidelity, BlackRock, etc. buy-side asset management firms are the morons (笨蛋). Goldman-Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, HSBC, Deutsche Bank, Bank of America Merrill-Lynch, etc. sell-side firms are the "kosher" monkfish banksters (流氓). The U.S. Con-gress and the tyrannical regimes propped up by the U.S. Military-Industrial-Complex are the mafia (黑手党).

To extricate ourselves, we may want to emulate the "one lucky diver in Russia (or a Russian in Norway?)" in this video and get an assistant (Bernie Sanders?) to help us: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/06/monkfish-catches-man-fishing-russia_n_3714766.html

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

The MATRIX of buy-side firms and sell-side firms with political influence purchasing is the MONSTER controlling the world through UNCONTROL. Here is why: http://news.yahoo.com/special-report-why-obama-other-gun-control-advocates-153042870--sector.html

It's like the financial world's securitization. Even someone vehemently against owning gun and ammunition industries is forced to own them through intermediaries. We certainly believe in our amerikanishe Islam - the religion of peace, through guns - and we observe our amerikanishe Shar'ia through mass shootings which are really human blood offerings to our religion of peace.

[-] -2 points by fionachuckles (-375) from Fairview, NJ 4 years ago

You have a very simple mind. The problem with such a mind is that when faced with complex problems, it shutters as it cannot accept complex solutions. So, you prefer simplistic answers even if they don't solve problems or lead to a truth.

The world is extremely complex. Made up of 8 billion people. It cannot be controlled by a few. Everyday, millions of people compete to control a certain amount of ressources, etc... From huge companies, to very small ones, etc.. it trickles down. Apple competing with Google, your local store competing with another local store, etc... Continents compete, nations compete, provinces, down to individuals.

The idea that there is misery because we don't have full control of the world is ludicrous and simply dumb. First off, even if you personally owned all the world's companies, you still could not have that much of control over what would happen next. Economy is extremely hard to predict. How people behave, etc... We are talking about very complex systems.

Even if you did manage to control everything perfectly, how do you know this would eradicate all misery in the world.

Your fantasy idea is based on nothing at all.

High school type thinking. Conspiracy theorist mind.

Go to university, get educated.

[-] -2 points by fionachuckles (-375) from Fairview, NJ 4 years ago

You think a secret cabal of Jews control the world? A new world order of Rothschild and sons?

[-] 2 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

I am thinking, according to the duck/platypus theory, that we have met web-footed, duck-billed, warm-blooded critters in the water. Were they rats or fowls? I am not sure yet - I have to caress their nipples to express milk to prove that they were mammals or catch one in the act of suckling youngs. Perhaps hearing quack, quack will help, too.

I suspect that environments shape external senses and appendages first (such as changing to snow tires for winter driving) because there were also duck-billed dinosaurs and flat-tailed beavers. Perhaps the Jews are just the appendages of the MONSTER.

[-] 2 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

"Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?" - Genesis 3:1.

The serpent sows doubts. The cigarette industry sows doubts about the smoking-to-cancer connection. The coal industry sows doubts about anthropogenic climate change. Jews are indeed more crafty than others, highly represented in the propaganda industry, and do control more than just industries so a reasonable hypothesis is that a secret cabal of Jews control the world.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

Maybe the defective snow tires caused the crash of the Great Recession.

There are buy-side asset management firms catering to sovereign wealth funds, retirement funds, union pension funds, etc. which form the MONSTER. CALPERS pulled its investments from gun manufacturers after the Sandy Hook Massacre because the teachers' pension investments should not help arm the murderer of teachers. CALPERS was probably not intentionally contributing to the murders of its fiduciary charges of teachers.

Buy-side firms were routinely fleeced (but willingly because they get to fleece and front-run the retail investors, too, through "privileged" information and offerings) by the sell-side firms via front-running in proprietary tradings so maybe much of the blame for the crash resides with the sell-side firms such as the "kosher" monkfish. It looks like the MONSTER, doesn't it?

白痴, 笨蛋, 流氓, 黑手党 control the world.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 4 years ago

that illusion is over

[-] -2 points by fionachuckles (-375) from Fairview, NJ 4 years ago

Are you part of the cabal? Are you a shape shifting Jewish lizard man from Aragon?

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 4 years ago


[-] 0 points by Shule (2638) 4 years ago

What makes you bring up the "jew thing", just 'cause there are a few thugs also involved who happen to claim being Jewish? There also is the British Royal Family, the Rockefellers, the House of Saud. Yeh, they all claim some religion, and hide behind it. Let us not be fooled. These thugs have no religion other than to themselves.

[-] 0 points by fionachuckles (-375) from Fairview, NJ 4 years ago

You see the world in simple fashion. The black and white shades of the classical conspiracy theorist. The cartoon world view.

[-] -3 points by fionachuckles (-375) from Fairview, NJ 4 years ago

Conspiracy theory mumbo jumbo.

The world is much too complex to be controlled by a few. It cannot be done. Absolute nonsense and garbage that is designed to make OWS look bad.

Anyone who's owned even a small company knows how hard it is to control employees, etc... Controlling the whole world... hmmm, no. Does not work like that champ.

[-] 1 points by Shule (2638) 4 years ago

One does not need to control the world. One only needs to control the money in it; then everyone more or less will dance to your tune.

[-] -1 points by fionachuckles (-375) from Fairview, NJ 4 years ago

Same problem. There is so much money in the world, changing hands everyday, generated in various ways, spent in various ways, etc.... It's impossible that the world's money is controlled by a few. There are tons of people and businesses competing for money every single day.

[-] 5 points by Shule (2638) 4 years ago

So then why are there so many people without money these days?

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

Cash is scarce but credit for the eelites is very abundant. They are all considered as being forms of money by the average proles who, by the way, agree with the eelites that inflation is far too low. These people without money do not understand why it is great to owe a big bundle of debts and get either the inflation bailouts or the bankruptcy bailins. Just ask Donald Trump about how it works. He knows!

The eelites are gunning for cash these days and may well phase out "$100 Benjamins" and/or "€500 Bin Ladens" due to their associations with criminality. With all due respect to the "Land of Lincoln," I saw pennies with Lincoln's cameo on the roadsides, sidewalks, bathroom stall floors, shopping mall floors, etc. with people stepping right on them non-chalantly without being bothered to pick them up. Pennies are pretty worthless these days, due to inflation.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 years ago

It is an ages old attack to enslave populations with debt. Look to the money changers "BANKs" savings and loans and the industry offshoots Investments Commodities Trading credit cards etc

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

Exactly, that's why the eelites declared war on cash because it is too uncontrollable for them. The only effective ways that they can get at it is through confiscation and inflation. Of course, they give small crumbs to the middle class at the tax feeding trove of the government through the mortgage interest deduction and make sure that they crave inflation bailouts.

I suspect that the police dogs can sniff at just about any bags of $100 Benjamins and discover that they contain illegal drug trafficking profits. Yes, they must be confiscated to enrich the "force!" "A large amount of cash was discovered in the home of the suspect." Blacks had better not have too much cash and whites can have far more without being "suspected, confiscated, arrested, incarcerated, or terminated."

Fairness requires bestowing whites with privileges because fair-skinned people are white and white people are fair, by definition!

As for the bankruptcy bail-ins, federal student loans do not qualify! Yes, the government can deduct the amounts from one's social security retirement income or garnish one's wages and bank accounts but corporations which have polluted the environment can just "die" with bail-ins, reorganizations, or reincarnate under a new name. That is very rigged. Am I left?

How can the government collect from the "dead"/bankrupt corporations' social security retirement income?

[-] 0 points by fionachuckles (-375) from Fairview, NJ 4 years ago

Poverty is decreasing as decades go by, not increasing. People have more now than ever before in the world. More material wealth, better science too like health care, etc... We are living better and better, it's not getting worse. This is something you can check up. Basic statistics and facts. Look up world poverty on Wikipedia, and you'll see it has halved in the last 20 years alone.

You can look at this link for example: http://ourworldindata.org/VisualHistoryOf/Poverty.html#/title-slide

If you want to be clean thinking like a scholar, you must start with facts.

Forget all you have learned from conspiracy theory websites. Most is just lies, garbage thinking, flawed logic, etc...