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Forum Post: What's this site's remaining life expectancy?

Posted 5 years ago on Oct. 3, 2012, 4:20 a.m. EST by JackTG (-194)
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How much longer do you estimate this site will live? And what formula would you use to calculate that? Have you donated money for it?



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[-] 6 points by shadz66 (19985) 5 years ago

LOL 'JackTrashyG' !!! Still plying your snide, 'glass half empty', negativisms on this forum !! Worra dolt !

'Builder from down under' has your number if not 'ident' & you'd be wise to take GF's advice - though of course 'anguis in herba' that you are - you just won't be able to help whispering your bleak, dissension Troll-Tactics to any and all who are foolish enough to listen to you.

temet nosce ...

[-] 6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 5 years ago

Don't worry about it. Enjoy the ride.

[-] 2 points by richardkentgates (3269) 5 years ago

Exactly! ^

[-] 1 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 5 years ago

Shades of unsuccessful Republican (scumbag) gubernatorial nominee in 1990 for Texas, Clayton Williams: "...lay back and enjoy it..."

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

Who needs a formula?

It should last a long while yet, in spite of all the puppets and trolls.

Yes, I did donate.

Did you?

I don't recall seeing your name in that thread.


[-] 3 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

'Til the work is done.

[+] -7 points by JackTG (-194) 5 years ago

What work is being done on this website?

[-] 9 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

Information dissemination, Jack.

You'd be reading here? Or just a' dissin'?

[-] -3 points by JackTG (-194) 5 years ago

Just asking questions. There are many sites used for information dissemination, and I would say those with millions of users are better. And, since most people here already believe in Occupy, information dissemination here is kind of preaching to the choir, no? There must be something special this site does that none other does?

[-] 1 points by gsw (3141) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 5 years ago

Posts are from free people, not professionals, volunteers, who have varied access to information related to interest of Ows, who like to keep current on a wide range of issues, as well as act in accordance with those beliefs, which can involve and does involve donating money.

This seems as productive as attending in person meetings. At least speaking for self, I don't seek to lead other adults into all doing the same thing, so the open endedness may appeal to people who are not satisfied with current political parties, who have failed on citizens united, letting thieves gamble and steal on wall street, and corruption in government.

Plus, we need people to keep this site busy or then it would not be very interesting, if everyone was the same. So people can safely correspond and get new reading ideas. I have gotten good leads on authors and purchased books on my reading device of Chris Hedges. Sheldon Wolin, Howard Zinn.

And it is an important participation in civil rights issues of our time. It may not be as popular to question mainstream cultural outlook, as in 60s. We don't have draft to unite the young in opposition.

And it beats Facebook, and going out wasting money so the corporations can have even more profit.

[-] 0 points by JackTG (-194) 5 years ago

Nobodies saying everyone should have the same opinion. What would be great is if the ideas discussed on this site had a way to become a reality in practice. This is the advantage of assembling in person to create protests, activism, and other tangible activities.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

What is the Worlds remaining life expectancy?

[-] -2 points by JackTG (-194) 5 years ago

A few more billion years depending when the big crunch happens. However, this site needs humans to run it and money, so it probably won't last billions of years.

And, if it does last very long, then it means Occupy has not achieved its goals.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

So perhaps ( and this is where it matters as far as we are concerned ) the question is better stated:

What is the life expectancy of Humanity?


What is the life expectancy of Wallstreet?

or if wallstreet morphs.

What is the life expectancy of the morph?

Because each of these brings up the fact that good people will always need to get involved to fight for what is good/healthy. For however long life the life of humanity is.

[+] -4 points by JackTG (-194) 5 years ago

I didn't realize this site was fighting anything, I thought it was a few people preaching to themselves.

I guess the question might be, why are the hits going down and down if the fight isn't over? Does this mean we are getting weaker and weaker?

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

If U R talking about Urself - gr8 - continue.

[-] 1 points by gsw (3141) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 5 years ago

The police and system have made it very uncomfortable for people to peaceably gather and have their opportunities for expressing free speech. So people can speak here.

When 60 or 80 percent of middle class disappears, then people will demand their rights again. The corporations, with their advertising and messaging make it appear as weird to question the system too much. That is what most people, who do not have the power and skills to seek information and think for themselves, but just do what has been done in past. Free thinking is not encouraged in USA. Free thinkers are not valued unless they can monetarize their thinking. Free thinkers have been banned from colleges, which are now corporations.


[-] 0 points by JackTG (-194) 5 years ago

I think there's still the possibility to peacefully assemble without problem. It just depends where you do it. It's not a secret that Occupy purposely created tensions with the police by doing things like taking over parks for camping, blocking ports and bridges, and other forms of civil disobedience. When you do civil disobedience, you're basically breaking the law and police will come. I see no reason why Occupy supporters could not peacefully assemble for the sake of sharing ideas instead of doing civil disobedience. Although, I also agree there is a time for civil disobedience. Both strategies can be used.

As for free thinkers not being encouraged in US, I call that BS. There's all kinds of points of views coming from US all the time. It's not all countries which would allow you to mock the President on a big show like Saturday Night Live, or publish books on almost any subject imaginable.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

....or send your offspring off to fight for the 1% in empirical invasions.

[-] 0 points by JackTG (-194) 5 years ago

A free and open society is one in which an adult can make up his own mind and follow a neanderthal like Bush and fight in his illegal wars. The fact is, many Americans like guns. They're cowboys. If you don't agree with illegal wars, then simply don't sign up in the army, and if you're truly brave, then don't pay taxes that go to fund these military "adventures".

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

Australians love guns, and absolutely fall over themselves to defend this great country of ours. No shortage of bravery there.

Difference is, there hasn't been a conflict that the US started that is in defence of the US since Pearl harbour, and the jury is still out on that one.

[-] 0 points by JackTG (-194) 5 years ago

Sure, and the US government should take a big part of the blame, but, still, a person who enlists in the army of a country which is known to engage in dubious wars left and right must also carry part of the blame.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

I don't agree.

While there may be a percentage who just want to play with guns, think of all those people who have no other choice (besides food stamps) but to join the armed forces, and risk their lives in wars for profit of the 1%.

[-] -1 points by JackTG (-194) 5 years ago

To enter the army you must be abled bodied. Those who are can find other jobs. I would do any type of work before engaging in the US army and helping wage illegal wars across the world.

A government can't do much if the people don't follow. Putting all the blame on the government is against the OWS way of thinking. We must take responsibility and change the world ourselves, without waiting for governments to change. This is why OWS engages in grassroots activism.

If you're right and people don't matter because they can't affect change due to their being stuck in the system, mere victims, then we should all go home because the battle is already lost.

I still believe in OWS. I believe people are stronger than the governments.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

It's not that simple for young parents, Jack.

Some people just have to have the income, if they want to provide their children with everything they didn't get as kids. Do you get that?

[-] 0 points by JackTG (-194) 5 years ago

I disagree. There are ways to feed your children without engaging in the army.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

For sure there are Jack.

Food stamps to supplement a full-time job at walmart.

If you want a future, and maybe stop paying rent one day, with a pension as a long shot, what other avenues of employment are open to the working class?

[-] 1 points by DanielBarton (1345) 5 years ago

Websites are cheap to run when traffic isnt that high

[-] 1 points by elf3 (3858) 5 years ago

I would like to have a card-carrying membership I can pay for like an AARP card or something. It's a way to add my name to the group without publicizing it to the government or workplace (let's face it most companies don't like it when people get to voicing their opinions too loudly or belong to a group that seeks to right the worker score plus the loss of habius corpus where our government can stifle us if they wish.) But this way you can say to the government "We have this many members/ we are this strong, this movement is still on" (I would divide membership by country of origin) I will gladly purchase a membership as long as payment forms are secure.

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

I haven't donated yet but I'll get around to it. I guess this site will last indefinitely.

[-] 0 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 5 years ago

It's pretty obvious that the number of regular posters here has been dwindling. You see the same five or ten names in the "Recent Comments" on the right, all day, every day.

This site constantly reminds me of The Sound of Silence. (Except for the "ten thousand people" part.)

And in the naked light I saw

Ten thousand people, maybe more

People talking without speaking

People hearing without listening

People writing songs that voices never share

And no one dared

Disturb the sound of silence

"Fools", said I, "You do not know

Silence like a cancer grows

Hear my words that I might teach you

Take my arms that I might reach you"

But my words, like silent raindrops fell

And echoed

In the wells of silence

And the people bowed and prayed

To the neon god they made

And the sign flashed out its warning

In the words that it was forming

And the sign said, "The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls

And tenement halls"

And whispered in the sounds of silence