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Forum Post: What is freedom?

Posted 2 years ago on Jan. 31, 2012, 12:28 a.m. EST by cubedemon (185)
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http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/worley-darryl/have-you-forgotten-3876.html

This is what I would love to ask Mr. Darryl Worley. I am asking those who believe in the concept of freedom as well. What exactly is freedom? What is the essence of it?

When this song was written what freedoms were taken away exactly? Osama bin laden did kill thousands when the world trade center was bombed so yes he took lives. What freedoms did Mr bin laden and Mr. Saddam Hussein take away? Did either of them come with their armies and take over our nation or any of its lands over?

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[-] 1 points by forourfutures (393) 2 years ago

cubedemon:

"Osama bin laden did kill thousands when the world trade center was bombed so yes he took lives."

Wrong. There is only one explanation for what happened to 2 towers in 20 seconds. A Ph.D in physics found someone that actually knew the building construction from a disappeared PBS documentary.

http://libertycalling.com/cbrowndemomodel.htm

The U.S government has been invaded secretly through secret societies. It is common knowledge that all but 2 presidents were Masons. The Masons were taken over by Templars, who were the elite warriors of rome until they betrayed them and burned them at the cross.

Of course by that time they were fairly immersed in satanic ritual. Get educated, please.

[-] 1 points by cubedemon (185) 2 years ago

I don't know if this is true or not. Honestly, I do not know what the truth is or supposed to be and why. I know if conservative and responsibility advocates beliefs hold up then it should be possible to answer my questions.

[-] 0 points by BlackSun (275) from Agua León, BC 2 years ago

Lyndon LaRouche garbage.

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[-] 0 points by owsleader2038 (-10) 2 years ago

"Freedom is just another word for NOTHING left to lose" - Janis Joplin

[-] 2 points by forourfutures (393) 2 years ago

A cognitive distortion. "NOTHING left to lose" All or nothing thinking.

[-] -1 points by owsleader2038 (-10) 2 years ago

"Greeks have nothing, and nothing to lose, American's think they have something, but have nothing" - Zorba the Greek ( The First Greek Anarchist )

Janis was right 'freedom' is just word when they have taken everything else from you and tell you that you still have something.

[-] 1 points by forourfutures (393) 2 years ago

I understand what you are trying to say. But seriously, generalizations cannot be used for rational thought functionally. They really only work when people are on the same page and basically in agreement already. Then they make communications more efficient.

Americans have been taught to use them with 30 years of semiotics used through TV, sitcoms, game shows, soap operas, serials, reality shows, popular music and film. Cognitive distortions are pervasive in our society and are really hampering our capacity to unify functionally. The way TV taught them to us as children, and you don't have to watch TV to get it. Our social groups use them unconsciously so so we pick them up and use them.

[-] -1 points by owsleader2038 (-10) 2 years ago

99% might be the MANTRA of OWS, but the reality in any and all Revolutions in human history is never more than 5%.

Thus its very irrelevant to give the TV watching public much thought in your decision making and/or understanding of social change.

Less than 5% of the USA public took part in the 1776 revolution, and the same for now.

What is FREEDOM is the subject of this thread ... those sitting at home watching TV chained to their TV's an junk-food are told that this is freedom, the freedom to choose from a 100+ cable TV channels, ... but those of us 5% know that living in prison and watching TV and eating junk food is NOT freedom.

KILL YOUR TV FELLOW REBEL's IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO

Real Freedom is the FREEDOM to KILL YOUR TV, and Find a life Thereafter

[-] 1 points by forourfutures (393) 2 years ago

I agree in part. I say take over TV by using law. However, if we cannot do better that 5% with this communication technology we are being seriously manipulated and the language is very likely at the root. It's our fault for not getting to the bottom of the problem of our behaviors.

If we actually were going to change, it will be on the inside, and that requires methods that we have been taught to reject, ignore and ridicule. Language and social conditioning have everything to do with that. This video actually explains what we are doing to our world and proposes the ultimate solution. Changing our unconscious existence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aek2xO4kFXQ

[-] 0 points by owsleader2038 (-10) 2 years ago

Stop the shit please in the name of god.

Nobody got more than 5% off their ass in the US revolution 200+ years ago, .. and why in the fuck would things be different now? Where does this bullshit idea come from that Technology can change human behavior?

I'll try this again, cuz your comment just shows you don't get it...

Only 5% ON average participate in revolutions, cuz 90% are too busy feeding the family, and live in fear .... at no time in history does a majority ever take up a cause,... never have and never will unless their forced such as the civil war where you either paid or went to die, but those are forced government drafts, ... but when people rise up to FIGHT their government, its always the MINORITY that risks their life and wealth. It's been said that all the people who signed the US Constitution died poor,... why cuz put their 'john hancock' on the document and that always leads to misery in the long run, ... the majority of SHEEP always prefer to shut-up and get along,... for fear.

But then you have few, ...

The better question is "Can you turn cowards and pussy's into men with Technology?"

The ANSWER is NO.

[-] 1 points by forourfutures (393) 2 years ago

"Where does this bullshit idea come from that Technology can change human behavior?"

I guess you didn't view the video or heed the statement Changing our unconscious existence.

More cognitive distortions too. "its always the MINORITY" "that always leads to misery", all or nothing thinking no wonder you are upset.

[-] 0 points by owsleader2038 (-10) 2 years ago

The video like all youtube videos is just bullshit propaganda.

Please don't waste your time with video's, go read a book.

Ok, in one instance I can justify a video, its when a cop does bad to one of us, and its recorded for public ridicule, but in all other cases youtube videos are bullshit.

[-] 2 points by forourfutures (393) 2 years ago

owsleader2038, how can you be a leader when you are not accountable and conduct cognitive distortions with about 70% of your post?

[-] 1 points by forourfutures (393) 2 years ago

"The video like all youtube videos is just bullshit propaganda."

Ummm, again, statements like this are called "all or nothing thinking", a cognitive distortion. You still have to realize that every behavior you might mention is caused by the unconscious mind and that the video deals with efforts of citizens to be able to find methods to control theirs so they can protect our futures.

Please answer the question I've been asking for the last 3 posts.Who were the winners of the "lost war" which was ended by the Magna Carta? This question has to do with law and courts.

[-] 1 points by owsleader2038 (-10) 2 years ago

YOU-TUBE BOREDOM SYNDROME

Thrassy, or should I say Kalle-Lasn, why are you so preoccupied with 'conginitive' issues? We're talking about 'FREEDOM', here and NOT once have you ( your BOT ) even bothered to discuss the topic?

You prefer to talk about yourself, or insult others, ... Fuck the video, fuck all you videos, you post 100's of links a day of youtube sites, you have now created YOU-TUBE BOREDOM SYNDROME in everyone here, was that your goal?

[-] 2 points by forourfutures (393) 2 years ago

Your unending cognitive distortions make you nuerotic or an infiltrator. I'm a producer of videos and much more. You can find the links here in the other thread where you are just as un accountable.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/ows-rebels-have-you-ever-considered-the-very-notio/#comment-625743

[-] -1 points by owsleader2038 (-10) 2 years ago

Zendog justify's his human-ness because some humans created a website for him, now we have a bot that thinks he's human because his handlers created a youtube video in his name.

Soon we'll be seeing BOTS posting pictures of their lovers, and their family. These BOTS will do anything to prove they're human.

Anything except reply on topic.

[-] 2 points by forourfutures (393) 2 years ago

Seems like your nuerosis and unaccountability make you an infiltrating traitor whatever you attempt. MKultra was far more effective than any know.