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Posted 2 years ago on July 13, 2012, 5:09 p.m. EST by anonymous ()
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[-] 1 points by ALAISDAIR (12) 2 years ago

I like this topic, I will revisit once done more research. until then I leave you with some ideas by Jacque Fresco. http://www.futurebydesignthemovie.com/

Great Topic!! Thanks for posting.

[-] 1 points by DanK (44) 2 years ago

There is nothing "anarchist" about your proposal. It's just a version democratic socialism or social democracy.

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[-] 0 points by OBOMBA (2) 2 years ago

Hear, Hear, Before they try to turn the most powerful nation in the world into their experiment, let them show us how great a little anarchist smurf village can be.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Offensive comment.

Like your login name. I guess you are only about offensiveness.

[-] 1 points by letsdomore (89) 2 years ago

Now that's an idea that offers hope. Not the if we're gonna vote for obama or romney crap.

I've long thought about an advanced community (albeit not anarchist. (or religious)).

With technology/globalization displacing more jobs every year it's inevitable. We are presently the frog in the boiling pot. Redesign must happen. Whether we like it or not. Today's society is obsolete, designed for a lost era.

Starting say a commmity of 100-1000 separate homes. Quasi rural/suburban, but still close enough to plentiful outside employment opportunities.

Engineered and scientifically designed as cost effective and advanced. With the objective to avoid as many cost burdens and shortcomings of today's institutionalized society. Residents bond together to help each other build simple, but scientifically designed advanced private structures. Think futuristic, not Amish.

Contribute time to grow and maintain high quality wholesome food production.

  • Gardens, Greenhouses, live stock, fish farms, artisan bread production, canning, etc.

  • A community free of mortgage payments,most food costs, most energy costs, most debt.

Eventually interact with other such communities to evolve. Sharing ideas and resources to help advance lifestyle.

Image a community of residents,

  • without: mortgage payments, other institutionalized debts, utility
    bills, most insurance bills, etc.
  • with: renewable energy, self sufficient healthy organic food supply, well water or rain collection,

  • Individual poured recycled concrete structures. Modest sized, yet advanced efficient designs. (energy efficient, impervious to the elements, Control seasonal effects of the sun,etc).

  • Advanced shared/home schooling techniques. Use of emerging video sources.

  • The restoration of community bonds lost in today's society.

  • With savings from cost effectiveness, we can purchase mechanized farming and other necessary equipment so that heavy labor is minimalized.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Sounds ideal. Of course I prefer city life over rural/suburban, I think the most efficient living is in the city no? Smaller carbon footprint in the city? Anyway is there any room for city people in that community?

And do we let anyone in? Or do they have to believe what we believe to be allowed in?

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[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Aren't skyscapers the most efficient way to live.? Smaller physical/carbon footprint no?

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[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

There are great efficiencies that can be applied to existing skyscrapers. And new ones can be built with even more efficiencies. instead of a town maybe a building in a struggling city. Detroit, for example. We should consider that if we eliminated suburbs we could create more farm land. We could get people closer to their jobs and minimize carusage/exhaust.

just a thought

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[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

LOL.

I'm good with my property in nyc.

Thanks, but no thanks

Peace

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[-] 1 points by letsdomore (89) 2 years ago

Sounds like some good ideas. It would be ideal if variations could be tried. I'm sure initially alot of failures would be encounted.

Eventually I can image thousands of communities around the world having success. It would make sense if these communities could share techniques for improvements and quality of life evolution.

Today the world leaders seem to be heading us into a homogenized monolitic one world govt. Where a few people with a few ideas want to impose their will on the world populations. I think the opposite is best. Many people sharing many diverse ideas for the people to choose from.

Personally I happen to be a traveller, infomaniac and foodie. So to my mind, it would be great to incorporate those things.

  • For information, I would like to utilize technology to have access to as much information and learning potential as possible for individuals and the community. like shared video lessons from other communities and sources. All helping each other to get more sophisticated and enhance our lifestyles.

  • To help satisfy traveling it would be nice for residents who want, can participate in exchange programs. For example once a year, 1 month I exchange with someone from Thailand and 1 month exchange with someone from Belgium. Maybe the Thais teach lower evironmental impact techniques. And the Belgiums teach me how to brew beer for our community.

  • As far as food in today's world it is horrible. Chock full of preservatives, hormones, chemicals, GMO, etc. It should be a focus to provide food for the community as pure and natural as possible. I have professional experience making artisan breads, pizzas, etc.So those who like great food will be happy I'm around. Plus others can learn from me to do those things in our community and other communities.

Other residents who have expertise as farmers, engineers, teachers, Charcuteries, horticulturists, mechanics, etc. could help assist and teach other residents and communities.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Good point on the governmental level thing. I agree it would be more likely in a seperately purchased town in a low tax state.

Of course I don't really think the concept is workable but I do have an open mind. I think much can be achieved in a single building without the truly seperate requirement necessary for your experiment.

Interesting of course, and I'll be watching for any progress.

Peace

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6584) 2 years ago

A Libertarian willing to give Libertarian Socialism a chance? That's a new one I've never heard before, but by all means: Good to hear!

I would love to see as many towns become based on libertarian socialism as possible, but it's not as easy to just collect money to buy a town (and is this really the right way to deal with social problems ,Corium?), and if it were achieved ther'd still be lots of challenges; the economy is after all all-encompassing. The economy as a whole must also be addressed and dealt with.

The correct way is to use democratic process and organizing, not buying towns. You should also read these three parts. Libertarian ideology is just a call for private tyranny:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/debunking-libertarian-myths-pt-1/

[-] 0 points by Shule (1976) 2 years ago

I hear the tanks and drones already rumbling.

[-] 0 points by brightonsage (4494) 2 years ago

And do it some place else, please. It is hard to get spattered blood out of my clothes.

[-] 0 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

Good idea. Put Anarchism to the test. Refine it, improve it, modify it, but don't just talk about it!

[-] -1 points by spermcoffinACAB (5) 2 years ago

Good work. I was thinking we could start to form small communities of like-minded people who would self-govern and start to learn and practice things like permaculture, experimenting with ways of doing things, homeschooling.. They could live anywhere as long as they agreed to be respectful of the surrounding neighbors. So these little communities would all keep in touch and over time the number of people associated with the group would grow. It's a very gradual plan. Eventually the groups would arm themselves and overthrow the existing power structures.

Based on what I'm seeing, nothing remotely close to this will happen. Everything is just getting worse.

I was so naive. I can't stop crying. I can't believe this is real.

[-] 1 points by TitusMoans (2451) from Boulder City, NV 2 years ago

Communes have been tried; some, especially religious ones like the Hutterites, are successful today.

Most non-religious communes have failed because the people starting them have not been prepared for the rigors of an agrarian, communal society. The work is hard, the hours are long, the reward for success, however, is a decent, comfortable life in a tightly-knit community.

Unfortunately, our society, corrupt and rotten to the core, is very real. Change won't come by wishful thinking. Don't cry; educate, agitate, help take control of our society.