Forum Post: We are different and that is what is great about America
Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 13, 2011, 11:23 p.m. EST by DunkiDonut2
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You can make and keep your own money or suck the government teat. Tell us how great the teat is.
http://www.wltx.com/news/article/163530/2/The-Year-of-the-Protester-
Columbia, SC (WLTX) - With a year of protests nationwide, Time Magazine named the Person Of The Year for 2011 "The Protester." We asked Occupy Columbia protesters why they feel the "Occupation Movement" is needed.
"We believe in democracy and freedom of speech and we are fighting to accomplish that; to stand-up on our soapbox and be heard," said Kyle Lacio.
For the past 61 days, that's what Occupy Columbia protesters like Lacio have been doing.
~~----------------~~This movement continues to just get bigger (already noted), but Occupy is the news story of the year even as the main stream media continues to bash it and the trolls on the internet make fun it.
Protesting and Occupy has changed the national/ the world debate. Plutocracy and Corporate cronyism; bailouts for CEOs with tax payer money. People like Jon Corzine stealing 1.2 billion dollars of farmers' money and walking away (No More)... ~~~~ http://www.zerohedge.com/news/presenting-three-unscripted-sentences-may-have-cost-jon-corzine-his-freedom
~~~~ AND we are not going to let the Congress get away with turning the country in a 1984 Brave New World Police State: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57343287/wh-oks-military-detention-of-terrorism-suspects/
Will will protest until it is overturned...let democracy speak; let freedom ring... In the world's of John Paul Jones, "I [We] have not yet begun to fight!" "Give me Liberty, or Give me Death!" -- Patrick Henry
"Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils"
so, you know . . .
I heard we gave the oil industry something under
$30 Million Dollars last year
they don't seem to mind
being on the government tittie
in fact, they seem to do really well
and you fuckers don't seem to mind that
at all
why is that?
cuz yer all a bunch of liars and frauds
that's why
and that is
in large measure
why
the repelican party is DONE
The Occupy Movement isn't going away
this shit is gonna stop
and there ain't nothin you can do
I'm curious . . .
just under $30 million last year
and we''ve been subsidizing them
forever
and just think
they are the chief beneficiaries of our war
It's caused market instability on the supply side
for ten years
so,
you know
the repelican party is DONE
I love big corporations. I love the oil industry. I hope the government keeps giving them more money.
why am I not surprised?
or you can be a banker and make and keep your money by sucking the government teat.
yet you don't care how much of your tax dollar goes overseas to rebuild mosques or fund evil regimes.
where did I write that?
You are mad because banks got a bailout with our tax dollars, yet you say nothing about all the other nonsense our tax dollars go towards. There is a notion that the bank bailout was to save our economy. What part of America are we trying to save with all the liberal initiatives that have little to do with America.
so that means I don't care how much of my tax dollar goes overseas to rebuild mosques or fund evil regimes?
I don't know. I never see that come up here. It's only things considered "the right" that people here attack.
Even if you never see here the issue of tax dollars going overseas to rebuild mosques or fund evil regimes that does not mean that the sponsors/participants of this forum don't care about that issue.
Even if your perception that, "it's only things considered "the right" that people here attack", were true, then so what?
We're here proposing a specific issue about the corruption between "Big Finance" and DC. Is it required that we propose the issue of tax dollars going overseas to rebuild mosques or fund evil regimes in order so that we can propose the issue of corruption between "Big Finance" and DC? Who established this requirement?
What does it mean to you that here we did not propose the issue of tax dollars going overseas to rebuild mosques or fund evil regimes? How does that make you perceive us? Do you really believe that I can't be mad at corruption between Big Finance and DC unless I say something about my tax dollar going overseas to rebuild mosques or fund evil regimes?
Do you really believe that being angry about the corruption between "Big Finance" and DC is a liberal initiative that has nothing to do with America?
Then let's see it. Let's see OWS start focusing on all of it, not just one side. You may address those things, but tomorrow, it could totally change when I talk to someone new. I would like to see some positive goals being set that appeal to more than just liberals, socialists and Marxists for a change. I am tired on turning on the news to see a bunch of kids shutting down a ridiculous port on the west coast.
Do you really see the issue of corruption between "Big Finance" and DC as belonging to one side?
Do you really believe that highlighting the corruption between "Big Finance" and DC is not a positive goal and that it doesn't appeal to more than liberals, socialists or Marxists? (do you even know what those terms mean?)
If you're tired of turning on Fox news and seeing a bunch of kids shutting down a ridiculous port on the west coast, then don't turn on the friggin television.
I see this as a activist group for the far left. I never said that it belonged to one side. I said I see one side being ridiculed. Regarding socialists, Marxists and anarchists, you know exactly what I am talking about.
Telling me to turn off my television? What if everyone did that and no one paid attention to OWS?
So you don't see this, Occupy Wall Street, as an activist group for the issue of corruption between "Big Finance" and DC?
You wrote: "Then let's see it. Let's see OWS start focusing on all of it, not just one side". How is proposing the issue of of corruption between "Big Finance" and DC "just one side"?
Do you see one side being ridiculed or do you see ideas being ridiculed?
I know what you mean when you talk about socialists, Marxists and anarchists, but I don't think you do.
Why are you worried about what everyone else does and whether attention is paid to OWS? Like I wrote before, if you're tired of turning on Fox news and seeing a bunch of kids shutting down a ridiculous port on the west coast, then don't turn on the friggin television.
Personally, I think we'd all benefit tremendously if we all turned off our televisions. OWS and the issue of corruption between "Big Finance" and DC will get attention either way.
By the way, how do you feel about the issue of corruption between "Big Finance" and DC?
That's not the concrete objective I consistently see. You may have your own version of OWS, but it's different than the next guy.
I have seen people promoting anarchy, 9/11 conspiracy theories, plans to shut down this and that, multiple suggestions to abolish capitalism, enact communes, big government and Marxist like societies. Then we have the crowd that thinks we live in some kind of one world order and equate protests in other parts of the world as models for us.
This is all far from Big Finance and DC.
LOL at you and Fox News. You prove that you are partisan with that comment alone. If you are a big liberal, just admit it. Stop acting like you are the voice and everyone is on the same page except me.
By the way, how do you feel about the issue of corruption between "Big Finance" and DC?
yeah-ya
just don't call the fire dept when your house burns down cuz there weren't enough tax dollars to fill the fuel tank
after your buddies speculated on the price of a barrel of oil and pushed up the cost of diesel . . . .
man yer fucked
Sigh....grow up.
I try - ya know? I mean
I really do
then some clown comes along and impersonates friends
and they tell lies
and then I just get all cold inside . . . .
ya know?
Sorry Zen,again you supply a flawed argument.
really?
was I supplying an argument?
I thought is was a metaphor
what was I thinking
"what was I thinking"
Actually Zen,sometimes I wonder if you really do. The fire dept. argument was a non-starter. You're trying to compare apples with meteorites.
I think you've had too much kool-aid
I haven't been on the teat since Carter the peanut farmer was the man in the white house. Remember that depression he thrust upon us? I collected unemployment for awhile. Does that count? Oh, and the teat was tasty and sweet.
yeah-ya
a tasty sweet teat
15 billion in debt
and the oil industry still gets their welfare check
the fuckers
Corporate welfare is the biggest disgrace.
Actually I don't mind it all that much when it comes to new products that are actually useful.
Donald Norman and others have documented that new products often fail, despite how great they are, just because people don't know about them.
But the oil industry?
McDonalds?
I mean,
common
I don't go for any of it Zen, if a product needs propping up, like say, ethanol, I say bullshit, it can't be a good product. McDonalds is propped up? Their burgers give me heartburn and the farts. Maybe I could see a subsidy for a burger king. Just kidding.
I think the example Norman used was the 8 track tape, there were two versions that came onto the market, and only one succeeded, his claim was that it was the inferior version that became popular, and all because of advertising.
Psychology of Everyday Things, the first edition, if you can find it. I read the first, from the library, then years later picked up a copy - 3rd edition. Haven't finished it - seemed to be substantially different from the 1st edition.
That pissed me off.