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Forum Post: U.S.A. No Longer has a Functioning Democracy

Posted 4 years ago on July 19, 2013, 2:38 a.m. EST by Shule (2638)
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Check out this article on Huffington Post:

Jimmy Carter Defends Edward Snowden, Says NSA Spying Has Compromised Nation's Democracy | By Nick Wing

"Former President Jimmy Carter announced support for NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden this week, saying that his uncovering of the agency's massive surveillance programs had proven "beneficial."

Speaking at a closed-door event in Atlanta covered by German newspaper Der Spiegel, Carter also criticized the NSA's domestic spying as damaging to the core of the nation's principles.

"America does not have a functioning democracy at this point in time," Carter said, .....[Domestic Surveillance has gone too far.]"



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[-] 4 points by TikiJ (-38) 4 years ago

Carter was before my time, but he was probably a good guy. Hence he only lasted one term.

[-] 2 points by Shule (2638) 4 years ago

Yes your very correct. Carter is a good righteous man. Supposedly he was one of only two Presidents the U.S.A. ever had who did not have an outside marital affair while President (the other was gay.) Not that that is what makes a President, but it gives you an idea of the kind of man he is.

President Carter tried to set the U.S.A. on a more moral more righteous path. Of course Wall Street, Corporate Amerika, and a good part of the rest of the government were out to do him in. One of the many things he did was outlaw the then U.S. A. practice of assassinating foreign government officials, and shut down the branch of the CIA specializing in overthrowing governments. Supposedly Reagan hired some of these folks for his presidential campaign against Carter. I sure you heard of "Iran-gate."

Check out his Carter Center, and the good things he's doing there; http://www.cartercenter.org/index.html. Now imagine a Carter center in the office of the President.....that is what it was.

[-] -2 points by itsmyblood (10) 4 years ago

carter was a globalist puppet. maybe he wasn't rotten to the core but he is still human so how many of us truly are without any humanity??

[-] 0 points by PortugueseExplorer (10) 4 years ago

My estimate is that it is approximately 10% of our current population.

[-] 1 points by Shule (2638) 4 years ago

A military statistic says about 2% of the population, or more precisely about 2% of the people recruited into the military, are psychopaths in the sense they do not have to go through military training to get them to kill somebody. They don't have any problems blowing somebody away, and naturally enjoy doing it. (Statistic per book "On Killing" by Lt Col (Ret) Robert Grossman, a U.S. Army psychologist back during the Vietnam era.)

[-] -1 points by gameon (-51) 4 years ago

99% of the history of the world is" before you time".If someone or something was " before your time" , is no excuse for ignorance. You can read , you have a computer. As for Carter,......... gasoline was rationed ( people were allowed to buy gas but it was based on the last number of their license plate, odd/even) interest rates were over 16%,it was horrible for the country. He was terrible,......."hence he only lasted one term".

[-] 2 points by TikiJ (-38) 4 years ago

" is no excuse for ignorance. " I know how history rewrites itself. I'm already seeing it with Clinton and Bush Jr. They will have Obama on Mt Rushmore by the time I retire.

[-] 1 points by gameon (-51) 4 years ago

Never going to happen. Prison, perhaps, Mt Rushmore, never.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 4 years ago

Good Post

[-] 1 points by Shule (2638) 4 years ago

Thanks, somebody else picked it up on another post too; http://occupywallst.org/forum/carter-called-it/ .

[-] 1 points by Shule (2638) 4 years ago

There is this bipartisan amendment, proposed by Representative Justin Amash (Republican, Michigan), which would forbid the NSA from expending any of its funds on the bulk collection of Americans' records, including our phone records up for a vote in Congress I believe today. It will be interesting to see how that goes. That would lend precedence. That would be a start.

Suggest calling or writing your representative.

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 4 years ago

Maybe Jimmy is right. I'm just wondering what Snowden is going to do. He seems to have no other option than to stay in Russia and assimilate.

[-] 1 points by Shule (2638) 4 years ago

I wouldn't worry too much about Snowden. He's safely holed up at the Moscow airport. I sure there is plenty of liquor at the duty free shop there.

[-] -1 points by BlackRepublic (-33) from East Windsor, CT 4 years ago

Hell no... when you have a president who literally sells lives to bolster the party that is not governance.

[-] -1 points by BlackRepublic (-33) from East Windsor, CT 4 years ago

What did Der Spiegel have to say?

[-] 2 points by Shule (2638) 4 years ago

NSA- Affare: Ex President Carter Damns US snooping. by Peter Schmitz in Atlanta Georgia. http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/nsa-affaere-jimmy-carter-kritisiert-usa-a-911589.html

Partial translation:

While the Obama Administration tries to placate Europe’s anger over its spy program, Ex President Jimmy Carter, the Democrat attacks US spying sharply. He says Whistle blower Snowden’s revelations were “Usefull.”

Former US President Jimmy Carter after the NSA spy scandal criticized the American Political System heavily. “ Amerika right now has no functioning Democracy” said Carter Tuesday at a meeting of “Atlantic Bridge” in Atlanta.

Building to this, the Democrat was very critical of the practices of the US spy agencies. “ I believe the invasion of privacy has gone too far” Said Carter to CNN. “ And I believe the spy ministry [NSA] is being excessive.” In view of NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden, Carter said the long over due revelations were “ probably useful that the information became public.”

Carter reiterated the the U.S.A. by compromising the rights of its citizens has eroded its moral authority in matters. One year ago, he wrote in the “New York Times” new US laws allow our private sphere to be damaged as never before by the U.S. administration.”.....