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Forum Post: US unemployment is closer to 20% than 9%

Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 26, 2011, 1:56 p.m. EST by KVNLGN (154)
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Once a US citizen is no longer receiving unemployment benefits they are no longer considered part of the work force and as such, are not included in the unemployment statistics. Clearly, this is not a rational way of thinking. Either you have a job and are working or you do not have a job and are unemployed. So, as the "powers that be" become more nervous about this movement and start to manipulate these statistics by stating that unemployment is improving from 9.1% to 8.9% or use words like under-employed, do not be fooled.
Unemployment is in no way improving.



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[-] 3 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 12 years ago


Those cooked statistics are a JOKE.

[-] 1 points by applepie (17) 12 years ago

OVER 22 % jobless rate

Posted: March 04, 2011 2:09 pm Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi © 2011 WND

The real U.S. unemployment rate may be 22.1 percent for February, not the 8.9 percent reported by the government, according to economist John Williams, author of the "Shadow Government Statistics" website, who has argued for years that the federal government manipulates the reporting of economic data for political purposes.

Read more: Yikes! You won't believe the real jobless numbers http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=270957#ixzz1eqKxE3OB

[-] 1 points by nucleus (3291) 12 years ago
[-] 1 points by rbe (687) 12 years ago

Yep, that's one of the 1st things they teach you in Econ 101.

[-] 1 points by CarlfromStatenIsland (4) 12 years ago

This is what people dont understand. How does one person or news station say one thing and the next say something so different about the same topic. Well i think its like when government officials going back ten (10) years ago would get on TV and say. They would say something like this ( Hay look man, everything is great, going real good, we have a strong economy and its getting stronger ). Point being this person is talking about tax money the government is stealing from American families. Billions and billions going into the hands of Federal,State & Local government coffers. And in that line of thinking yes, all is well, all is fine and dandy. The bureaucrats and politicians wanted us to think all was well because thats how they regulate the publics collective mind set into thinking that. A. when Uncle Sam is flooded with tax revenue that shoud mean to society that the economy is good, its OK. Forget the fact that you and i cant pay our bills, B. that since Uncle Sam states the economy is good, based on the fact that tax money is flooding into the Federal government. That we should feel that everything is good and Ok. Even if your househould is going down, sinking and the future looks bleak. Point being when your told by someone on TV that the US economy is improving. From now on always ask your self if its true for you and your family and friends that the economic situation is on the up swing. Because you might find that what your being told on TV has no baring and no correlation to whats going on in our real non fiction life. Which brings me back to to the Post on the true, non fiction unemployment numbers in America. When you hear next time that benefit claims have dipped down or are the same. And you think you should feel good or be happy. Than think about the fact that the true story is that the US unemployment rate is really 19% or 20%. No way in hell its 9%. Thats only what their stating for the people that dont really understand the truth.

[-] 1 points by justcause (44) 12 years ago

January 2010 it was above 10%, now it is below 9%. It is improving, if you want that in perspective, that meas 3, 070,000 more people are employed than they were a year and a half ago

[-] 1 points by Sinaminn (104) from Sarasota, FL 12 years ago

That is not true as more young people are entering the workforce and those whose eligibility for benefits has expired; both groups aren't counted in the statistics. Most experts place the current true unemployment rate between 16% to 18%.

[-] 1 points by Edgewaters (912) 12 years ago

Yeesh, you're not paying any attention at all to what the op said. He was talking about the methodology behind the statistic.

Unemployment numbers can fall simply because people don't find a job after a certain period of time. The methodology behind those statistics is complete rubbish. If the entire population had no job at all, for a certain length of time, unemployment would under the current methodology be 0%. This is why the methodology behind these statistics is just nonsense.

[-] 1 points by CarlfromStatenIsland (4) 12 years ago

You have a smart business mind. And for the record your right.

[-] 0 points by fuzzyp (302) 12 years ago

There are reasons for not including everybody in the calculation.

The calculation is meant to show people that do not have jobs that currently want one. It's meant to show everybody not currently employed.

Then people like you come and fumble around with why they do these things and point to conspiracy.

[-] 1 points by CarlfromStatenIsland (4) 12 years ago

Look fuzzyp i know you dont really think your right on this. The real conspiracy is that there are people out there that buy the party (GOV.) line hook, line & sinker. You may be one of them. This whole process, the POSTs and all related comments. The purpose is to try and get us to broaden our horizon. In other words OPEN your mind. If someone reminded you that on 911 building # 7 just fell, it crumbled to the ground almost by itself. A small fire in the sub-basement. Well, point being fuzzyp you would than say that i am a conspiracy theorist. Dont mean to jump in your stuff. I just really, really hope you not sure what you talking about.

[-] 0 points by fuzzyp (302) 12 years ago

No you're just seeing stuff that isn't there. Idk, maybe you think that building 7 falling was a way of supressing black people or something. Broadening horizons doesn't matter if you're believing half truths and buying into conspiracy theories

[-] 1 points by KVNLGN (154) 12 years ago

"people like me...," funny. Do you think that the differnce between 9% and 20% unemployment are people who have stopped looking for work?
There are reasons why government officials use deceptive statistics, so "people like you" can walk around in a constant state of oblivion.

[-] 0 points by fuzzyp (302) 12 years ago

There are retirees who are included in that 20% statistic as well as babies and 12 year olds. It takes a dumbass to assume the extra 11% are all 25 year olds playing videogames in their mom's den.

[-] 1 points by KVNLGN (154) 12 years ago

hahahaha... you're british aren't you. Babies and 12 year-olds...

Do some homework before you start slopping down that corn-fed buffet style government meal.

[-] 0 points by fuzzyp (302) 12 years ago

No, I'm from Seattle. It's just how they calculate unemployment. Not everything is a conspiracy.