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Forum Post: US officials knew Libya attack was terrorism within 24 hours, sources confirm

Posted 1 year ago on Sept. 27, 2012, 10:34 a.m. EST by HeatherL (-30)
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Nothing new here with this lame admin, get rid of them all

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[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13623) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

What I find interesting is that those on the right insist the President should have been beating the anti-terrorism drum from the first moment of the attack - despite a complete lack of information on the ground regarding what happened and the degree of organization behind it.

And those on the far left - instead of realizing the President took a cautionary approach, waiting for the information to come in to make pronouncements, have instead determined for themselves that this incident represents more deceit on the part of the President.

I have no doubt, were the administration still full of overwhelming bushite then every single instance of protest resulting from that movie would have been dubbed terrorism - which in a strict sense it may be, but most of it has not been instigated by direct al Qaeda affiliates. Rather, most of the riots that ensued were instigated by imams - who would probably have behaved the same even in the absence of al Qaeda from the world stage.

It is, I think, rather strange when it becomes clear that no matter what choice the President may make, he is viewed as either wrong or hopelessly corrupt - a perception that is not in the least supported by fact.

[-] -2 points by HeatherL (-30) 1 year ago

The whole Gov is basically corrupt and they should ALL get recycled

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13623) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

that's a cheap copout - but I guess it's a lot easier than paying attention.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Ya, thats a horrible plan. Hire new people. How stupid.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13623) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

I don't plan to fire my legislators. I like my legislators. I intend to vote for my legislators. Again.

I think, were I in FLA - I would seriously consider something just a tad more radical

but whatever dude

[-] 1 points by NVPHIL (664) 1 year ago

Whenever I hear terrorists did it I see it as an excuse for more anti-constitutional laws designed to take away our rights.

[-] -1 points by HeatherL (-30) 1 year ago

Not only that but now the UN is considering a new round of Global taxes. Looks like we will have to bend over again

[-] 1 points by NVPHIL (664) 1 year ago

I didn't hear about that. I don't mind paying US taxes but the UN has no right to tax me.

[-] 0 points by HeatherL (-30) 1 year ago

Shame on the Obama admin

[-] 1 points by JK1 (-20) 1 year ago

I just twinkled your comment. I agree, Obama is a jerk!

[-] -2 points by JK1 (-20) 1 year ago

Obama is a stupid man! What a freak! He is a liar and a crook!

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Blatant anti Obama partisan campaign attack!. Who are you campaigning for?

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

Fight fight fight

Obama campaign guy vs Anti-Obama guy

LOL

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

Same old partisan BS. Treat them both like trolls. If we respond to it, we encourage it. If we don't respond, they will leave.

[-] 1 points by NVPHIL (664) 1 year ago

LOL

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Meaningless, useless, unsubstantial, childish comment from Trevor.

What a surprise!

What is interesting is all the unfounded attacks and accusations against me for non existent Obama campaiging. (Never happened) While this blatant effort at pro repub campaigning you ignore!

In fact you never attack anti Obama, pro repub comments as campaigning and of course spend most of your time/comments on Obama/Dem attacks and neglecting repub responsibilities for our problems.

Please grow up.

[-] 1 points by JK1 (-20) 1 year ago

Maybe, VQkag2, you just need a reality check. Not everyone follows someone like Obama blindly like you do. Like I said look at the cold hard facts! It does not matter if I am for or against Obama, I am saying he lied to us in this area of the video. Like it or not!

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I do not follow Pres Obama blindly. Why would you suggest such a blatant lie? Are you attacking me personally (like a good little republican) because you have no substantial facts to offer in this discussion?

What evidence do you offer? None. 'cause you ain't got none.

[-] 1 points by JK1 (-20) 1 year ago

You must be dumb. I already stated my facts below. But this is what you should do. Because you sound like the type that you'll believe it when you see it, you should look up Jay Carney's press meetings from September 11 through September 28. Also, if you love Obama as much as you reveal you are going to love this. Look up Obama and his response to the killing of our ambassador, then look up Obama's UN speech. Then on top of that your president put out an ad in Pakistan that mentions it as well.

Have fun!

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

"dumb"? Do you think you will change my mind with these childish insults, or do you just enjoy putting people down.

Unnecessary to review all you suggest followed it all along. In regards to the film, I support the admin effort to change the way these things (cartoons, films) are used by the muslim "outrage industry". I agree we must put great focus on this critical issue.

If moderates are to succeed in the arab spring countries they must embrace freedom of speech and acknowledge that there are extremists who will have great power to incite riots if they don't somehow eliminate this outrage machine that allows extremists to hit a switch and create an incident.

That is the importance and value in focusing on the film. Repubs discredit the admin effort because they like having the outrage machine at their disposal.

Repubs were behind the film. no? Tried to affect the election. No? They need to shut down interest or it may be found out they were involved.

That wouldn't look so good.

[-] 0 points by JK1 (-20) 1 year ago

You are not only dumb but you are a left winged social communistic simple minded wacko.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

So I guess you agree your republicans were behind the film in an effort to hurt Pres Obama in the election?

[-] 0 points by JK1 (-20) 1 year ago

No, you were. Only you could produce a dumb lame brained film like that.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I didn't produce the film. You obviously don't have the facts.

But your right wing wacko republicans did speak up for it.! They had to be involved. I mean just look at who would benefit the most! Mitt Romney!

One day it will come out.

[-] 1 points by JK1 (-20) 1 year ago

I still think that you are the master mind behind this! Obama is behind it as well! Obama is such a wonderful liar and you might as well just continue in your little VQkag2 land. One day it will come out. It will come out that you are a sorry liberal idealogist for a corrupt politician named Barack Huessein Obama

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I believe you've gone off the rails mister!.

You appear to have lost all sense of reality.! LMFAO.

I guess I win.

You have been dispatched. And so you are dismissed.

You have been unworthy as an adversary. Simplistic, childish name calling and obvious efforts of distractions. No competition at all.

[-] 0 points by JK1 (-20) 1 year ago

You are one corrupt individual! I think that you literally are nothing more than a worn out liberal who refuses to look at the facts! You know nothing of reality. You just need to grow up and stop being a blind, little pathetic liberal, and look at reality. You just are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo stupid! I never met an idiot that could not look at the facts that I have listed below and try to see whether or not they are right! You just believe anything that anyone says to you. You are a no good liberal who does not deserve to be in this country! Why don't you go to China and live there!

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

What a surprise!

You are my favorite Obama excuse maker on this site. You are as hilarious as the people that try to tell me Mitt Romney is a fiscal conservative.

Why do Obama and Romney agree on monetary policy?

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

What excuse have I made. I'm calling this anti Obama campaigner out, and true to form you give him a pass!

What economic policy do they agree on.? Dishonest loaded question there trev. Try honesty. It's life affirming.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

You make excuses when you tell me that bombing civilians and then bombing their rescuers is somehow not a war crime.

When are Romney or Obama going to address the large levels of civilian murder and war crimes by drone strikes?

When are Romney or Obama going to address that giving money to Wall Street is not a solution? Instead of reappointing Bush's Ben Bernanke who's main job is finding different ways to give Wall Street more money.

When are Romney or Obama going to address how indefinite detention is wrong instead of winning an appeal to continue doing it? Bradley Manning is a US citizen currently under 845 days of military detention without trial. He exposed murder of civilians and reporters.

When are Romney or Obama going to address the massive spy network of American citizens created thanks to his and other corrupt politicians continual support for the Patriot Act and FISA bills?

When are Romney or Obama going to address OWS and their knowledge of a bought government?

When are Romney or Obama going to address his continued funding for organizations similar to Black Water?

When are Romney or Obama going to address is continued funding to KBR a war profiteer known for human trafficking?

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I'm against Drone bombings, I've protested all pols many times, and signed petitions. I can't agree with your extremist rhetoric that Pres Obama is a war criminal because I rather let a court decide.

All the other items in your rants are clearly American policy I disagree with.

The only way to change those policy mistakes is to protest all pols for real change.

We can do it. Together. let's keep our heads about us.

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

tell me when a court decides on Bush being a war criminal.

You are making excuses. The best way to get them to court is to point out there crimes.

Why would you protest the drone strikes if you don't think they are criminal?

Wrong and unjust bombs means they are a crime.

Later... I'm going to go protest the debate of frauds between Deb Fischer and Bob Kerrey

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I ain't made no excuse. That's you lying about me again and still! Please stop!

I protest the drone strikes because I think they are wrong.

I know they are part of the war on terror created by repubs when they exploited the 9/11 attacks 11 years ago.

The drone attacks are the end of this horrible military action that began because of that fear mongering. So we must protest to create real change, & to end all these policies that came out of the repub efforts to creat a new "enemy", and an endless war on terror.

We must undo that fear mongering posture that repubs created for the MIC. It's the only way to end all the items on your rant.

Why don't you ever mention these realities? We cannot change if we don't recognize how we got here. You seem to be ignoring the republican responsibility in creating this situation, You are making excuses for the repubs as always.

Transparent!

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

If the drone strikes are wrong that means they are war crimes.

If they are right than they are legitimate.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

How'd the protest go?. Your back quickly. I guess you don't support the dem huh?

Who is it Fischer.? Is that your candidate?

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

I was gone for over 2 hours. Debate was only one hour.

They wouldn't answer my questions. Credentialed media only.

And no to your last question.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

That soda ban IS a joke. Of course I never bought a soda that big and never wanted to. Those huge sodas are a joke. I don't prefer the govt interfering, but I also know that people will be healthier.

I know that diabetes, & obesity will come down. So I suppose it may be good for some people.

I signed a petition against it.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Looks like she's gonna win though. No big gaff? Kerry's been here in NYC for 10 years & many people out there (in the real America lol) don't look too kindly upon the big apple.

How about you ever left Nebraska for the big Apple?

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

She had a huge gaffe. I have a whole post about it.

No one in Nebraska has a problem with New York. Although many think the poverty levels there are out of control and that Bloomberg is ridiculous for the soda law. among other things... like Wall Street

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

A little simple. They are wrong because they kill innocents,. But innocents always die in war, but not always designated as war crimes.

Sorry

They are wrong because they perpetrate the republican create endless war on terror when they exploited the 9/11 attacks. We must undo the fear mongering that repubs have used since to continue the wars, and trample our constitutional rights.

Why don't you mention these critical realities that must be acknowledged and addressed if we are to change anything?. Is it because repubs are responsible for these things and you never hold repubs responsible?

[-] -2 points by JK1 (-20) 1 year ago

Who are you campaigning for? I am campaigning for change that we can believe in! Why did Obama lie to us then! I am disapointed in you, VQkag2. Use your head!

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

NO! I will stay in the US and continue working to take it back from the right wing wackos who have taken over!

"You just believe anything that anyone says to you." I don't believe you!

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

What lie did Pres Obama tell us?

(I ain't campaigning here! Just calling you out for campaigning)

[-] 0 points by JK1 (-20) 1 year ago

Obama came out and told the United States that the Muslims attacked us all due to a poorly made video. However, the Libyan government and Jay Carney came out last week and finally admitted that it was a planned attack that had nothing to do with a stupid video. Obama though, on Tuesday, went to the UN and still claims that it was because of the video that the Muslims attacked us. Just yesterday the White House authorities came out and said that they knew with in the first twenty four hours that this was a planned attack.
You ask what lie did Obama tell us? Look it up for your self. The facts are all there.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Oh please. Grow up. I knew it was an attack. they've said it was an attack.

I knew the film was made (by right wing wacko war mongers here, & in Isreal) to incite muslims, I saw all the protesters screaming about the film,The admin said that!

The film was just a sorry effort by your right wing war mongers to create an oct surprise, anti Obama foreign policy crises. But your boy Romney screwed up the plan with his clumsy inaccurate comments. LMFAO.

The attack was perpetrated with the film as cover.

Admin statements seem like an effort to keep the fear mongerers from using another minor attack as reasons to continue the endless "war on terror", and extend the constitutional violations created after the 9/11 attacks were exploited 11 years ago.

I'm not concerned or impressed.

Anything else?

[-] -1 points by JK1 (-20) 1 year ago

Yea, you are one narrowed minded individual. On one hand you admitt that it was not the film then on the other hand you say it was. I think that maybe you are the one polling for Obama! I am just stating the facts.

You then go on to give them a reason for lying. Why don't you use your brain! They lied!

Then you say it was a minor attack! Minor attack! There were attacks on US embassies all throughout the Middle East! This is not something that is going to just blow away like you think it is going to.

I do want to ask you a question. Are you pro Obama?

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

"narrow minded"? You resort to name calling because your arguments are so weak.

The film EXISTS! it WAS used to incite riots in many muslim cities.! The attacks in Libya were Clearly planned Attacks. Admin Statements reflect this!

The film and riots (not the Libya attacks) are just an attempt by your right wing wacko war mongering repubs to create a crises during this presidential election.

The cover story the admin pushed is meaningless to me. It's politics as usual.

My support is not relevant. No reason to discuss my personal voting plans. I'm most comfortable discussing the issues. Deal with it!

[-] 0 points by JK1 (-20) 1 year ago

Do you know when the film was made? Or have you even seen the film?

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Made last year? No I haven't seen it. Why. I did see the film consultant who spoke in support of the film was Steve Klein, Well known anti Abortion, anti mosque, right wing wacko.

I also saw that the Koran burning, anti mosque, right wing wacko Florida pastor was also invloved in marketing advice.

What about those facts. Smells like right wing wacko oct surprise effort. No?

[-] 0 points by JK1 (-20) 1 year ago

If you have not seen the film than you have no clue what you are talking about. I have seen it and it is a poorly made film that I would be embarassed to fight over. Secondly the film was made not last year, like you suggested, but rather in June. So you are saying that the muslims are protesting over a film that was made four months ago?

Now you mention about the Koran burning etc... What about the American flags that they are burning over there? What about the four American diplomats that were killed? And your upset over the buring of some Korans!

Last of all, you just need to learn that you are just a simple minded creature that was trained to think inside of the box for the rest of your life. It is NARROWE MINDED people like yourself that have no clue what they are talking about.

SMILE!

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

When the film was made is not relevant. Many muslims who were incited by the film didn't see it either.

In fact the coptic Christian guy (Nakoula Basseley Nakoula) apparently worked with another coptic christian in Egypt who created a 14 min youtube trailer that some muslims saw (because they titled it the innocent of bin laden). That Youtube trailer surface very close to the 9/11 anniversary.

The many other muslim countries just fed off of that. Every muslim country with any small extremist group quickly organized protests using this to incite people. The Libyan attack was just extremists trying to keep Libya from going moderate. Our ambassador was a great threat to them because of the succees we were having.

Obviously I am aware of and against the protests/violence against America. That is unrelated to anything we are discussing. I guess besides insults you must use false distractions because of your lack of facts.

So I think in fact you are unaware of the facts. Whether you find them is not relevant to me. I think you are perfectly content with your view on this.

We just disagree.

[-] -1 points by JK1 (-20) 1 year ago

This whole Egypt and Libya mess is all about anti-American sentiment. Wow! This was a planned terrorist attack against America! Your President Obama is too much of a wimp to admitt that. Instead he lies and lies and lies and lies. Instead you write and write and write and write. You both need to get your ill-founded facts straight.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

The Libyan attack was planned. Pres Obama has stated that. In addition, we must recognize that the muslim "outrage industry" must be ended.

We must convince enough moderate muslims that cartoons, and films are not reason enough to riot.

That is critical.

[-] 0 points by JK1 (-20) 1 year ago

Well, you believe what you like but I am sticking to my beliefs.