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Forum Post: Unless I hear from jart, or moderation soon, I will assume this forum is now being run by agents of the 1%

Posted 7 years ago on March 13, 2012, 10:13 p.m. EST by GypsyKing (8719)
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Every indication since the 1st of March is that this forum is once again dominated by our opponents. Most posts and comments have a clearly anti-occupation strategy behind them, and those anti-Occupy comments are voted up by bots, while legitimate posts are voted down. The huge volume of this traffic stifles the effectivness of this forum, once again.

We need to know what is up here.

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[-] 7 points by shoozTroll (17632) 7 years ago

Silly trolls.........Can't even leave this one alone.

Bot using script kiddies are cowards.

[-] 4 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

This has very serious implications for this movement. This is the information age. Our ability to project our ideas here is powerful because those ideas are spread exponentially through social media, and this forum is where those ideas are primarily desciminated. That makes this forum important, and they know that, even while they try to convince us that it is not.

Any whistleblowers out there willing to use a one time username to tell us what is going down here? Anyone in the movement in touch with jart that can tell her we need to hear from her and from moderation?

My primary concern is for their safety, and by extention the safety of all involved.

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 7 years ago

Perhaps if we supporters left for a few days and let the bots and trolls talk to each other, someone would notice.......?

I know I've mailed abuse, and got no response. I'm sure others have too.

Now we, and the site are being threatened with an attack.

Unspecified, of course, but a threat non the less.

Where is anonymous when you need them?

[-] 3 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

Yes, time to cogitate. If they take over this forum then it is of no use to us, and we may have to abandon it and reorganize.

[-] 5 points by shoozTroll (17632) 7 years ago

I've been trying to make contact through the chatroom, and having little luck there either.

I know that after 4mos of this, and now bots all over, it's getting to be a bit much.

We could meet in the chatroom, until this place gets cleaned out.

[-] 4 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

I'll give that a try. Thanks.

[-] 1 points by TruthRightsFreedom (259) 7 years ago

Meaning discuss solution here,

http://articlevconvention.org/showthread.php?33-Amendment-By-Layers-Of-Priority-constitutionAmendment-Package-Making-CONST.-Intent

That one thread if understood can create an entire landslide of Constitutional intent.

Then come to OWS for outreach and demonstration of the power of agreement upon solution, Article V.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

Thanks for the link. I'll check it out ASAP. I'm all for an article V.

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[-] 4 points by shoozTroll (17632) 7 years ago

Why in the Hell would I fly "right"?

You couldn't find Hell without google.

Coward.

[-] 3 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

What, you mean like "the final solution," you fucking pig?

[-] -2 points by SatanDemocrat (-24) 7 years ago

Your mother and father were most definitely both men and indeed swine.

Come on, darling, whip out all your sock puppets, I like to watch them work while you bang away crying foul.

POS.

[+] -5 points by SatanDemocrat (-24) 7 years ago

Put a sock in it, use one of your puppets if you can't peel a one from your nasty feet.

[-] 3 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

Terroristic threatening, the last resort of the coward and the loser.

[+] -4 points by SatanDemocrat (-24) 7 years ago

hahahaha! whatevah!

Come on, get those puppets out, they're cute.

[-] 4 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

Ah, the new "on message" chant of the zombies. It's us rather than you that are using bots. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! Even a girl scout wouldn't buy that one!

So that's why you're not using your bots to vote our comments into oblivion on this post.

[-] 2 points by TruthRightsFreedom (259) 7 years ago

GK, bots cannot do solution. Their trainers won't teach them. talking solution leaves them nothing to do but oppose it. If the solution includes defense of the constitution, they get to be traitors:) -

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

Thanks . . . interesting.

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[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

Indeed, the twisted utterings of Thrasymaque. You're psychiatric fixations give you away, even though you now (thank God) limit yourself to only a few words.

[+] -8 points by SatanDemocrat (-24) 7 years ago

Number one sock puppet perp. Clever too.

[-] 6 points by shoozTroll (17632) 7 years ago

Really??

Just who else do you think I am?

jesus/satan/repelican't/democrat......and the real God knows who all.

[-] 5 points by elf3 (4068) 7 years ago

I agree - the post come in almost as if they are automated too - seems like a program. I post they post.

[-] 6 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

Absolutely, I agree. The tone of this forum changed literally overnight, just after the Feb. 29 protests. And I really want to here from jart and agnosticnixie! We are not playing games here, and if we don't hear something soon, we better make an effort to know that they are alright.

[-] 0 points by agnosticnixie (17) from Laval, QC 7 years ago

Some of them probably are, hell, they might even be the same people behind the neonazi spambots we were getting last fall.

[-] 1 points by fiftyfourforty (1077) from New York, NY 7 years ago

good to hear from you. some people were worried.

[-] 0 points by agnosticnixie (17) from Laval, QC 7 years ago

Internet was in short supply for the past few weeks, sorry about that.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

Thank you for this comment! I was becoming a bit worried not hearing from you!

[-] 4 points by shadz66 (19985) 7 years ago

OK 'GK', here's 'watching your six' with a "Trashy-Troller Summary" :

1) Thrassymaque ; 2) Adiemantus ; 3) Socrate ; 4) Polemarchus ; 5) Cephalus ; 6) Glaucon ; 7) Jjons ; 8) Galaga ; 9) Campingatkalles ; 10) sabir ;

11) Bart ; 12) dung ; 13) Hiroshi ; 14) SirSillicon ; 14) DavidJameson ; 15) RoadWarrior ; 16) RoadWarrior2 ; 17) DJStarDust ; 18) ding ; 19) florian ; 20) DonnaEvans ;

21) meethook ; 22) ows1984 ; 23) owswtfbbq ; 24) FreeDiscussion2 ; 25) FreeDiscussion3 ; 26) FreeDiscussion4 ; 27) FreeDiscussion5 ; 28) neonnight ; 29) DayumShame ; 30) TheRapist ;

31) GreatBallzOFire ; 32) HoarFriday ; 33) SmeggitySpoog ; 34) JesusDemocrat ; 35) JesusRepublican 36) SatanDemocrat ; 37) SatanRepublican ; 38) DKAtroll ; 39) EconomicCrack ; 40) JuanFenito ;

41) myjart ; 42) GirlToday ...

Most of the above (if not all!!) are Trashy-Bot and there is NO WAY that he's doing this for kicks ... he's paid for this sh*t for sure & I'm sure that there's more but remember ...

Nil Desperandum et ..

pax, amor et lux .

[-] 4 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

Thanks for this very accurate list. I've been doing some footwork, and I think things will improve here again soon.

In prople erit vincere.

[-] -3 points by GirlToday (-4) 7 years ago

Two parts, Indian Call Centers, and poorly programmed bot's 2nd, ... and once in awhile thrassy himself jumps in, ... the problem is that these bot's are them themselves parts and parcel of OWS itself. Long ago established that Jart & Thrassy are same-same person.

GK and Shadz, ... and shooz are all on this same team as the list above,

Most interesting is why do most of us get deleted same-day and/or one day, but GK and the OWS insiders have been here since the begin and never deleted?

All insiders and all playing the same game, ... keep the sheep focused on Jart's bad Sex change job and little else.

[-] 3 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

And I thought "Alice in Wonderland" was fiction!

[-] -2 points by myjart (21) 7 years ago

Soros is the richest man in the world and made the money by investment banking.

He paid for CANVAS ( arab-spring ), which under contract Kall-Lasn ( OWS/ADBUSTER ) run's.

You are a BOT this is assured, change the subject if you will, SOROS paid for CANVAS/OWS and SOROS is the 1%-er who rules the world, everything that OWS claims to hate is in fact paid for by the 1%.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

Ah . . . it's you who are trying to change the subject, but it's too late. Ha, ha, ha, ha . . .

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 7 years ago

Why did you spam that ugly post?

And how do you know so many details, when you just got here?

[-] 0 points by myjart (21) 7 years ago

I am ows. I am thrassy. I am Jart.

I am Kalle Lasn.

I am Soros

I am Obama

[-] 1 points by PopsMauler (182) from Chicago, IL 7 years ago

But you don't think, therefore you aren't :D

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[-] 2 points by PopsMauler (182) from Chicago, IL 7 years ago

This is a very valid conserdation to make. Especially so, as posts are still being deleted. So there's definitely still active mods around at times.

This forum is in a sad state, but some posters do make it worthwhile to stick around.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

I definately think it's worthwhile - we must simply be allert to the need to clean it up when necessary, and understand the determination of our opponents to render it inneffective. That sometimes takes innitiative on our part, collectively.

[-] 1 points by PopsMauler (182) from Chicago, IL 7 years ago

Yep, and it definitely extends to more than just these forums.

Plenty of work to still be done!

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

Yep, there sure is.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (22990) 7 years ago

One day the trolls will look back at their behavior and they will be ashamed of themselves.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

I think, if we consider the larger cosmic mystery of existance, and that the material world is transitory, and that we are in the middle of a duality of good and evil, truth and lies, justice and tyrrany, body and spirit, negation and transcendence; and that we have a choice to make about those things through the further mystery of free will - I think if we consider all these things, we might conclude that they may end up being more than simply ashamed of themselves.

The body is trasitory, the soul dwells with the eternal verities.

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (22990) 7 years ago

I truly hope they can come to see the light and change their ways. But, in the meantime, if they don't, let's not allow them to win. Their goal is for us all to become exasperated and leave the forum. I refuse.

[-] 3 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

So do I, and I think damn near everone else here.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

54 comments in one hour. Do you think I hit a nerve?

[-] 1 points by Puzzlin (2898) 7 years ago

Yes, we do have these flurries at times. I have come to accept them as they do seem find the brick wall eventually. Funny part, with as lead way they get, which is substantial, they feel persecuted.

I say cry me a river, snap their necks, and see ya. We give respect and we receive respect, we know who we are, and it's earned. Trolls stick out like a damn sore thumb. Give them a warning, tell them to re-read the ground rules of the forum, and repeat patterns are met with a predictable pattern of siding with respect for others.

Most people do like to work within some agreeable structure, the first step would to have mutual respect for others.

It can work. Let's try reason.

[-] 1 points by nobnot (529) from Kapaa, HI 7 years ago

Yes it is but don't act like it is a suprise.Look at post titles look at join dates.Don't bother reading the rest of the crap.They do seem to be rather thin skined.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

Agreed, but newcommers read this suff and get a really wierd impression of the movement, and when it reaches certain levels, I think in a decentralized movement, we ourselves have to get to the bottom of what's going on, and I think things are in the process of getting fixed up again:)

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8230) from Phoenix, AZ 7 years ago

Gypsy I see no reason to think that we are not running this site.

It did seem to be under attack this morning, hope that's not the case.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

Let's just say the situation is under control again, hopefully.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

Please see my post "Federal Reserve A Red Herring"

[-] 1 points by Quark2 (109) 7 years ago

I thought this too.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

You were right, but hang in there. Persistance wins the day!

[-] 0 points by BlackSun (275) from Agua León, BC 7 years ago

Self congratulatory circle jerk. Ever notice its the same 5 people complaining about so-called "trolls"?

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[-] 0 points by onepercentguy (294) 7 years ago

i love these threads

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33801) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 years ago

Anyone notice that the psycho trolls are allowing us to down vote them and up vote each other on this post? Do you think psycho trolls believes that this makes us look bad?

[-] 5 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

Probably. They're very clever, and also potentially dangerous. They seem to be opperating out of South Florida, a place with long standing notorious connections.

[+] -5 points by SatanDemocrat (-24) 7 years ago

Sling enough bull shit up on the wall and surely something will stick.

That sounded very authoritative and knowing, like you actually have a clue.

Do you believe you?

;-)

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 7 years ago

Tr@shy-Bot : D'You believe You ?!

Which 'YOU' d'you believe ?!! Are your ...

Lithium Based Meds running out again ?!!!

[-] 3 points by Marlow (1141) 7 years ago

Guys... We are going to get Every 'Element' on a Public Forum!

Not even the White house is exempt! ( would love to hear THEIR prank Calls.. ;^)

.. Just ignore the Numbnutz... and dont reply to them as it brings their idiocy to the top all over again.

(Btw.. a Forum Staff member is already on this Thread kids)

[+] -6 points by DKAtoday (33801) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 years ago

Hey Marlow, thanks for the input. I do believe in ignoring the trolls whenever possible. I also believe in confronting wrong thinking so that it does not pass as being rational due to a lapse of attention.

[-] 2 points by Demian (497) from San Francisco, CA 7 years ago

Did you notice that most of them have numbers in their names?

[+] -6 points by DKAtoday (33801) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 years ago

The less thinking involved for a troll the better it likes it. So much less painful for them.

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[+] -6 points by DKAtroll (7) 7 years ago

Anyone notice that the psycho trolls are allowing us to down vote them and up vote each other on this post? Do you think psycho trolls believes that this makes us look bad?

Don't tell anyone, I have always had a terrible fear of trolls since the boy across the street jumped out from under the bridge and made me pee while he watched.

[-] -2 points by JuanFenito (847) 7 years ago

Do you live in the Bay area????? I think the same guy made me go number two and play in it!!!

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 7 years ago

Tr@shy : There you go with your deviant coprophilia again, scat-boy !!!

Bali not too nice this time o' year ?!!

Missing home again porn-boy ?!

[-] 0 points by JuanFenito (847) 7 years ago

I have no idea what you are talking about. I saw someone goofing off and decided to have some fun.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 7 years ago

Juan-Tr@shy-Bot-Fenito : Yeah right !!! Stop talking Shit Now !! There's a good Troll !

TCh, Tch, tch ...

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 7 years ago

There will be no goofing off in here young man. This is serious business.

Get to work, this isn't supposed to be fun..........:), or they would have called it funrum.

[-] 0 points by amanofnoimportance (82) from Orlando, FL 7 years ago

Why haven't you started using captchas?

[+] -6 points by SatanDemocrat (-24) 7 years ago

We have a problem of our "all star" members abusing the system. It's easy to do and none of them are going to like what happens it if it doesn't cease immediately.

[-] -2 points by rstedbe (-1) 7 years ago

hahahhahahah libtards

[-] -2 points by freewriterguy (882) 7 years ago

i had communication with jart just a week ago, so shes still around.

[-] 5 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

Well, you're a troll, so that doesn't make me rest more easily.

[-] -2 points by freewriterguy (882) 7 years ago

Im offended, and this coming from a Troll!

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[-] 5 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 7 years ago

That's right, moron, this is the OWS website, not the ANTI-OWS website. When you come here to talk trash about OWS, you are, by definition, a troll. Much too stupid or deluded to see that, though, aren't you?

[+] -5 points by SatanDemocrat (-24) 7 years ago

Jared, don't forget to take your meds

[-] 6 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 7 years ago

Don't forget to choke on your hatred.

[-] 0 points by SatanDemocrat (-24) 7 years ago

or how about

"go fuck your sister, everyone else has"

"fuck yourself up the ass with a knife"

nice

You need serious help.

[-] 3 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

Ah, it's you that posted those things - not epa1nter. So take your own advise. Maybe you can save what's left of your human dignity, and prevent the remainder of your earthy life from a simple continuation of the nightmare.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 7 years ago

The forum does seem for the most part to be absent of lagit users. Hate to see the forum suffer such a slow trollish demise.

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[+] -4 points by BlackSun (275) from Agua León, BC 7 years ago

Does this mean you will go away and quit inflicting the grown ups with your childish bullshit?

[+] -5 points by BlackSun (275) from Agua León, BC 7 years ago

WELL?

[-] -1 points by BlackSun (275) from Agua León, BC 7 years ago

WELL??

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 7 years ago

Water!

[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33801) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 years ago

Hey Gk I am With you. I hope you don't mind but I copied off your post and PM'ed it to the moderator http://occupywallst.org/users/agnosticnixie/

[-] 4 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

Thanks, I've been trying to reach jart for weeks, and nobody seems to be able to reach agnosticnixie, or anyone in moderation at all.

What the he'll's going on here?

[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (33801) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 years ago

I do not know. But the bot voting and nasty posts are going crazy. To have the best comment of the day - Board dominated by troll comments is really sick. I am doing my best to stay in support of the good Posts and Good contributors.

[-] 6 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

Yeah, that's one clear indication. Some bullshit remark by some troll the other day got 25 upvotes. I've never seen anyone here get 25 upvotes, and unfortunately, higher scores here give posters higher credibility. It is just one example of their effort to once again dominate this forum.

[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (33801) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 years ago

Down voting them does no good for the same reason, they get bot voted back-up. About the only thing I can suggest is we ignore all troll posts, and support good posts and comments as best we can. while slapping down troll comments at least once per troll attack.

[-] 4 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

Good advise!

[+] -4 points by GirlToday (-4) 7 years ago

Anybody here with more than 500 points is an OWS insider,... end of story, a fucking asshole.

[+] -7 points by DKA4today (42) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 years ago

GirlToday

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Joined March 14, 2012

[-] 4 points by forjustice (178) from Kearney, NE 7 years ago

Don't feed the trolls. Every response bumps their bullshit to the top of the spotlight. Down vote and ignore.

[-] 1 points by TruthRightsFreedom (259) 7 years ago

If the vote system showed who voted, it would be okay. But it doesn't so it's not. I agree about not engaging their BS dialogue.

[+] -5 points by DKAtroll (7) 7 years ago

For all the lamenting about people going hungry, you want to starve short bridge dwellers?

[+] -6 points by SatanDemocrat (-24) 7 years ago

Your compadres are liars.

[-] 5 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 7 years ago

Hey, it's bipolar Satan, the prince of lies, calling others liars. So who you voting for Bi polar Satan?

[+] -6 points by SatanDemocrat (-24) 7 years ago

Nader, I'm lying.

Just read the posts and watch.

[-] 1 points by TruthRightsFreedom (259) 7 years ago

That is a decent strategy, but abandoning the place and the endless grievances for discussion on solution where there is moderation is a good strategy.

Then return here for outreach and showing how agreement kicks ass. Forget their scammy voting tool. Text and reason rule.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33801) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 years ago

I don't like the idea of abandoning this forum.

[-] 4 points by shoozTroll (17632) 7 years ago

I think he's, he's, he's GONE now.

Let's give it another go.

Hopefully the bot's gone along with him and that should clear out after a while.

[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (33801) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 years ago

One can hope [ :>)

I was not about to leave anyway.

Hang Tough. I'm out. Catch ya later.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 7 years ago

No, I don't think we will need to, now that this issue has really reached the light of day.

Truth. Transparency. Action.

[-] 1 points by TruthRightsFreedom (259) 7 years ago

Only to return for outreach. Discussion here gets lost in the troll trash.

[+] -7 points by DKAtoday (33801) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 years ago

Your choice. Me I am sticking it out.

Night.

[-] 1 points by TruthRightsFreedom (259) 7 years ago

I'm here too, but there is no meaningful agreement upon solution and that is the only thing that will be effective. If we go elsewhere, where discussion is not buried in sensational, redundancy, agree, then return with the refined agreement to focus on one thread with a number of us who are sincere, we have an impact.

Otherwise it is the same old diluted group unable to make a visable precense of unity.

[+] -6 points by SatanDemocrat (-24) 7 years ago

I enjoy watching you frantically voting up your own posts and then talking publicly like you don't and are completely straight.

Are any of you gamesters starting to figure why your fraudulent cries of protest are being ignored?

Make your bed...... LIE in it.

[+] -6 points by SatanDemocrat (-24) 7 years ago

Yes! High scores like you get from your multiple-sock puppets do make you think a lot more of yourself, huh?

Would you like to show me the actual posters who broke 20? They are all part of your gang, pal. Play like you don't know that and like you don't vote up your own posts.

BTW, DEMOCRATS ARE THE ANSWER!!!

[+] -6 points by SatanDemocrat (-24) 7 years ago

Knock it off or would you like me to shut the whole thing down?

Stop your post whoring, spam and sock puppet voting.

Really.

[+] -6 points by SatanDemocrat (-24) 7 years ago

You know what's going on, you play dirty pool and then wonder why you've no shoulder to cry on. Fess up and it will stop. All of you.

[+] -4 points by SatanDemocrat (-24) 7 years ago

SPAM JUNKIE POST WHORE!

Don't cry to me, no.....

http://occupywallst.org/forum/replenish-recharge-refuel/