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Forum Post: Trans activists slam ‘hateful’ conservative video in which man ‘dresses up’ as ‘a transgender’

Posted 12 months ago on Aug. 20, 2013, 9:09 a.m. EST by GirlFriday (17435)
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Keisling told The Raw Story videos like Joseph’s do not advance anything useful in discussing how to help trans students.

“All it does is villainize a group of kids who have it really rough, and who the state of California’s just trying to make it a little easier on,” she said. “This doesn’t put anybody else out. It’s really easy to scare people about it, and I get it, but nobody’s put out, nobody’s made unsafe, nobody’s made unmodest. This is just sad and kind of sick.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/19/trans-activists-slam-hateful-conservative-video-opposing-new-california-law/


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[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (27660) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 months ago
[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 months ago

I saw that. Way to gay up the place, Mayor Cummings.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (27660) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 months ago

WOW - now ya know why that white supremacist preacher was so bent out of shape. {:-]) the horror...........

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 months ago

Ya, although, he did have a hard time explaining what he was doing in a gay bar in Dallas.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (27660) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 months ago

aAHHAahahaha - it said Beer - I swear it.........................sides the girls was kinda cute.....................hey ya got a pretty mouth..........................

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 months ago

lol. The greatest thing about that whole clip is that you get the feeling that Mayor Cummings would have been quite comedic on his own.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (27660) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 months ago

Yep - quite the guy that mayor - and still living - in the South - what are the odds on that?

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 months ago

I think it's great.

The guy fixed potholes in the middle of the night.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (27660) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 months ago

SURPRISE - government - working - for "YOU".

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 months ago

Yeah, almost made me want to move to Kentucky. Almost. Ok. Close to almost. At least 5 feet away from almost.

But still.........the guy fixed pot holes in the middle of the night.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (27660) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 months ago

At least 5 feet away from almost.

eeeheehehe

But still.........the guy fixed pot holes in the middle of the night.

The Man - The suit - not some below poverty pay individual........no wonder he had ta do it at night.....sets a bad example/precedent......

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 months ago

That has to be it.

In fact, it explains completely why there is a huge fear of the gay agenda. If the gay agenda gets out then people are going to start demanding it. That means it's going be hard as hell for straight folks to be elected to anything.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (27660) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 months ago

That has to be it. In fact, it explains completely why there is a huge fear of the gay agenda. If the gay agenda gets out then people are going to start demanding it. That means it's going be hard as hell for straight folks to be elected to anything.

That would explain a lot.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 months ago

Thanks. It really irks me that you have groups of people that are dedicated to harming other people which aid and abet the solo twits. The Media Research Center and all of it's donors should be destroyed or tried for murder and/inciting violence.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 months ago

Are they part of the SPN?

They sure are ALEC fans.

"Following the publication of a Bloomberg Businessweek article examining and criticizing the American Legislative Exchange Council, (ALEC), MRC immediately came to ALEC's defense. MRC's Iris Somberg accused the authors of the article of accepting "the liberal mantra that corporations are evil and buy support through shadowy groups" and asserted that the article "is thick with one-sided caricatures of conservative policies could have easily been written by a left-wing blogger." [7]

But the MRC piece itself is almost a caricature of the Businessweek article. It alleges that Businessweek authors Brendan Greeley and Alison Fitzgerald find ALEC sinister because it is a "non-profit that promotes limited government, free markets, and federalism." But it ignores the authors' pointed critiques that show ALEC is less about limited government and free markets and more about using government to benefit ALEC's corporate members. For example, the Business week article discusses how the Republican mayor of Lafayette, Louisiana had plans to provide high-speed internet to his rural constituents, but was thwarted by a lobbyist pushing a corporate-sponsored ALEC bill through the Louisiana legislature that would block local government efforts to expand broadband. The Businessweek article points out the bill "was not designed to level the playing field," but to protect entrenched telecommunications interests at the expense of the public interest.

But rather than criticizing the Businessweek article on the merits, or countering the claims that its author's make, MRC's Somberg sets up a convoluted ad hominem. Somberg writes that groups cited in the article had received funding from the Open Society Foundations of George Soros, but does not actually dispute any thing those groups say. (One of the groups Somberg criticizes is the Center for Media and Democracy, which publishes ALECexposed.org as well as Sourcewatch.org. CMD's Open Society grant is not used for its ALEC project, and instead goes towards the national security and surveillance research of CMD's Executive Director, Lisa Graves, who has testified before Congress on such issues.)

The MRC article condescendingly states that the Businessweek authors say that ALEC receives funding from Exxon Mobil ("Nothing says evil like Big Oil cash," Somberg writes), perhaps to set up some sort of false equivalency with other groups indirectly receiving Soros money. But Exxon Mobil is only one of many corporations mentioned in the Businessweek article that fund ALEC. MRC does not mention that ALEC is led by lobbyists, and gets 98% of its funding from corporate interests. The problem with ALEC's corporate funding is not just with the funding per se, but with the fact that those dollars are being used to influence elected officials, and to push laws that govern the lives of all Americans designed to benefit the corporate bottom line. That is hardly comparable to a philanthropist helping fund online investigative journalism organizations.

[-] 1 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 12 months ago

Here's a list of the corporations that have the most pull with ALEC, and where their money goes.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/alec-board-members/

Just like banks fund both sides of those at war, ALEC funds both sides of the paradigm. Pretty smart on their part. Pretty pathetic on ours.

Learned from the godfather of "funding both sides" http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 months ago

Hon, I don't know how to break this to you but, everyone knows that corporations donate to both parties. However, and this is what you seem to miss and has been repeatedly explained: ALEC is writing the legislation. You like to skip this step.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 months ago

other groups must also write legislation

[-] 1 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 12 months ago

Its no secret that ALEC is writing the legislation. The people who actually put the pen to the paper are the lobbyists for those very corporations, who are simply writing what they are told to.

The politicians are just toadies to introduce it.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 months ago

Link please.

Oh yeah and........

SPN

SPN

You skip the SPN.

[-] 1 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 12 months ago

To think otherwise is just as dumb as idiot Republicans thinking that Pelosi and Obama wrote the ACA bill.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 months ago

stupid is the republican's role

the establishment needs it for "gridlock"

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 months ago

That's not a link.

That's an attempt at insult, with a side order of (R)epelican't talking points.

Indeed, it exposes you own personal partisanship.

Will the soap opera of the banned gang up on you now, like they ganged up on VQ?

[-] 0 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 12 months ago

" soap opera of the banned"

You are only showing your disdain for horizontal platforms. Keep it up.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 months ago

Uh......your political prostitutes are horizontal on a platform bed. That's it.

[-] -3 points by DrJoePistachio (-6) 12 months ago

The problem with Democrat shills such as yourselves is that you favor the status quo. You're happy with the way your boss Obama runs the show. The fact that he signed the Monsanto Protection Act, that he isn't doing more for LGTB rights, doing more for the environment, etc... doesn't bother you. That's because you compare them with the lowest denominator, the ugly Republicans, to make the Democrats look good. If instead, like real occupiers, you compared the Democrats to the way we should be doing things, then you would realize they aren't doing nearly enough. In fact, the Democrats aren't doing much that's positive at all. Most of what Obama is doing - again Monsanto Protection Act, NSA, etc... is very negative.

Partisan Politics is dead and has no place in Occupy. We are passed that. We hate both your dear Democrats and the Republicans. We hate all parties. We hate the system.

Get with the times. Your pro-Democrat view is passed. Antiquated. It's conservatism.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 months ago

http://occupywallst.org/forum/to-oust-a-congressman-step-one/

Only sometimes it does.

I'm thinkin' you just got really, really drunk at the party.

So you came here to sign in and lie about stuff.

and make sure that NO issue gets discussed.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/13878/gop-2012-platform-9-shocking-anti-lgbt-planks-in-the-republican-plan-for-america

there.

try that one. Let's see how far you get.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 months ago

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Lil' Teathuglican fuck, Obama is not up for election. You are going to have to find a legit argument and get back to me. Go back to your team leader and tell him that you failed again. You have nothing to do with Occupy. Never have. Your con is over.

[-] -2 points by DrJoePistachio (-6) 12 months ago

Nope. I don't like the Republicans anymore than the Democrats. I don't like the system at all. It's broken. We need a new system, based on anarchy.

Being against Obama and friends does not mean being pro Republican. That's only in your simple conservative mind which cannot think beyond the duopoly, beyond partisan politics.

Of course, you're paid to post here. That's why you attack everyone and claim they are 'right wingers'. And that's why you soil this forum with profanity. Your tactics are simplistic and boring.

Drop your Obama and join Occupy. We need to make this a better world. political parties won't help us. It's up to us to do it with Occupy.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 months ago

You spend most of your time spinning shit. All over the place. You couldn't stand when people were discussing issues. The shit that you do tend to post is Alex Jones orientated. Websites that cater to Tea Party/Koch head propaganda..............but ya, your not paid to post. You fucking cockroach. You treasonous political whore.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 months ago

Are you also "not anti-union"?

You should try and be less negative.

What do you rally know about anarchy?

How will you deal with people like the folks in this guys books?

RIP, Leonard.

http://www.elmoreleonard.com/

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 months ago

Oh,

So you consider all their gang style attacks to be in the spirit of horizontalism?

Yeah, right.

YOU keep it up.

Your showing your disdain for the 99%.

Now about the thread title.

Do you have those links proving your duopoly conspiracy theory?

[-] -1 points by DrJoePistachio (-6) 12 months ago

It's pretty clear this site has been co-opted by the Democrat party.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 months ago

It's pretty clear that your teathuglican ass is just tired of getting the shit kicked out of you.

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[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 months ago

Again. This isn't super secret. It isn't new and it isn't that nobody sees it. There is far more scrutiny at the national level. ALEC is operating via the states.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 months ago

(facepalm)

SPN

SPN

I'm asking about the SPN.

I'm sorry you weren't paying attention and missed that.

Did your knee jerk so high you bumped your chin?

[-] 2 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 12 months ago

They're both ran by the same people. ALEC and SPN.

"But Exxon Mobil is only one of many corporations mentioned in the Businessweek article that fund ALEC"

Follow the money.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 months ago

No.

They're not.

But their aims are similar.

Destroy Democracy, one State at a time.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2013/08/gerrymandering_jigsaw_puzzle_game_put_the_congressional_districts_back_together.html

You didn't follow the money in N. Carolina. Or Florida, for that matter.

Why should I think you can follow it anywhere?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 months ago

I've already been there. It's YOU who needs to study.

Now about following the money in N. Carolina.

You should give it a try.

There's far too many flies, flying 'round your bullshit.

You brush off so much important information in such a flip manner, it's no wonder some think of you as a (R)epelican't.

Just for the record......I don't.

I have no idea what you think you are.

I just think you're confused by not actually understanding what you are experiencing.......

So, instead of trying to understand, you'll just a new thread in an effort to avoid that understanding that conflicts with your belief system.

[-] 1 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 12 months ago

Did you really just ignore that link? It spells it our for you.

Who is funding all of these foundations? Where do mega foundations go to get money?

Corporations and elites.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 months ago

Since you've dragged this thread so far off topic, let's see you prove your duopoly bullshit, by providing TONS of links showing the left wing treating transsexuals in the manner demonstrated in the actual topic....

I Can provide those TONS of links showing what the "right" says and does.

[-] 1 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 12 months ago

LGBT rights is one of the leading reasons I hate the Republican party.

Let me know when you are ready to denounce your friend on here for saying the things he does.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 months ago

Those aren't links.

Indeed, it disproves many of your previous statements, although I doubt you noticed.

Then you finish up by trying to drag it even further from the topic.

Lame.

[-] 1 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 12 months ago

Stopppppp..... You're about as liberal as Obama is!!

Try denouncing your friend if you are so adamant.

Bottom line: You saw it, you are being made aware of it and you do NOTHING.

Liberal my ass. You put loyalty to your group over whats right just like the rest of em.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 months ago

Insults.

Where's your links???

Where's the convo on gay rights?

where's the admission to your own conundrum?

Instead you speak in riddles?

I'm done with you here, unless you return to the topic at hand.

You should probably return to the soap opera.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 months ago

Try denouncing your friend?

Of all the fucking bullshit...................grow the fuck up.

[-] -1 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 12 months ago

Its not dragging it off topic. I denounced it, you sat by.

You want to act like you support LGBT rights? Try speaking out when you see shit then.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 months ago

No.....I posted links, and it's not the first time.

You?

You're just in denial. spinning 'round and 'round....again.

Taking the thread far off subject in an attempt to insult me.

Yeah, I'm a liberal, and proud of it.

You've been insulting me for that for how long and under how many usernames? You won't say. That level of honesty escapes you and all your friend in the insulting soap opera of the banned.

But here.

Have some links to FEAR following.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/how-crayon-drawings-can-tell-if-there-are-demons-your-brain

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelangelo-signorile/rick-perry-and-gop-gay-ba_b_3567942.html

http://americablog.com/2013/08/alabama-gop-tries-to-force-out-college-republican-chairwoman-for-being-pro-gay.html

http://www.policymic.com/articles/13878/gop-2012-platform-9-shocking-anti-lgbt-planks-in-the-republican-plan-for-america

100% GOP shit.

Now about why I support LBGT rights.

I adamantly refuse to put that forth for you to insult me over.

Because that's what you do.

[-] -2 points by RomSKnight (-25) 12 months ago

Obviously you aren't versed in the anti trans feminist movement. There's been some wicked twitter wars between the two sides lately. Almost as good as the feminist women of color vs white feminists battles.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 months ago

The feminist women of color v white feminists is only a 40 year old argument. This is what brought about third world feminism.

[-] -1 points by RomSKnight (-25) 12 months ago

I didn't know it was that old, but it sure hasn't lost a step. There are majorly vicious fights daily on twitter.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 months ago

There are majorly vicious fights on twitter because it's twitter. Something to do with Warhol's 15 minutes of fame.

When you were dealing with a bunch of middle/upper middle class white women that were defining feminism, there was bound to be problems. When there was an attempt to export it, shit hit the fan.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 months ago

Neolibe(R)tarian elites, that work mainly through the (R)epelican't party.

This has proven to be a most difficult truth for you to accept.

Now about following the money in N. Carolina?

Or the interview with the woman who infiltrated ALEC.

You skip over SO much information.

So much that you've become not unlike a skipping record.

Remember those?

[-] 2 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 12 months ago

You dont think they are using Dems to push their campaign too? You think they are going to leave that rock unturned?

Whos approving the 4 trillion in bailouts? Whos forcing poor into the insurance scam? Whos passing all these other laws? Who just raised taxes on the poor this past year? Who just gave monsanto a pass? Who just gave the right to a trial the door? Who is bombing Yemen? Who is bombing Somolia? Who is bombing Mali? Who is bombing Afghanistan? Who is bombing Pakistan?

All of them.

I post the votes and you say the votes are meaningless. I post the actions and you ignore them. I post hard links that show you whose funding SPN and you change the subject.

Its us vs them shooz. Plain and simple.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 months ago

Why are you putting words in my mouth?

This why I get the way I do when trying to communicate with you.

You're such a frustrating, insulting, fact free mess of ideology, it's not funny.

Dragging practically every thread off subject to feed your insanity.

Us vs them?

You won't admit who "them" are.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 months ago

There is no excuse for any of this stuff.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/transgender-star-web-series-found-611476

If you are not outraged?

I can only wonder why.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 months ago

And that's a full cycle. Really.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 months ago
[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 months ago

. I mean, I know that now that so many states have marriage equality, all of those straight marriages are just crumbling left and right, but come on.

Read more: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/08/20/gop-lawmaker-blames-his-multiple-dwi-charges-on-gay-marriage/#ixzz2chHFILBu

It just sounds a little more insane every time I read it.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 months ago

Drunks do get desperate, don't they?

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 months ago

I have never heard of anything so ludicrous.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 months ago

Hope you're wearing a hat, because you're going to need to hold on to it.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/08/21/new-poll-shows-louisiana-republicans-blame-president-obama-for-how-bush-handled-hurricane-katrina/

Off topic, but still, just as asinine.

where do they come up with this shit?