Welcome login | signup
Language en es fr

Forum Post: ALEC Board Members

Posted 10 years ago on Feb. 5, 2013, 9:15 p.m. EST by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL
This content is user submitted and not an official statement


Obama accepted money from half of the board memebers. Democrats in general have accepted money from almost every single corporation on this list.

Im sick of this ALEC bullshit and "right wing" nonsense being tied together exclusively.

One side is doing it openly, and has their voters convinced its in their best interest. The other is just blatantly lying about it, and the voters are too dumb to notice.

Whoever has a problem with ALEC, should have a problem with both-ALL-only two- Parties in Congress.

If they dont, they are either too dumb to govern themselves or they have an agenda.

Go to opensecrets and see whats up for yourself. Do some homework.

Screw the duopoly. And if you support them, then screw you too.



Read the Rules
[-] 2 points by turbocharger (1756) 8 years ago

If you take money from board member companies of ALEC, are you then not supporting ALEC?

[-] 2 points by turbocharger (1756) 8 years ago

Many horrible companies have left ALEC this past year.

Are they now no longer bribing the politicians, writing policy, and overall just further corrupting the system?

Obviously no.

ALEC should be disbanded immediately as it is nothing but a bill mill.

With that being said, disbanding it is not going to go to the root.

The companies are still bribing and corrupting.

The politicians are still accepting.

The people are still voting for them.

[-] 2 points by turbocharger (1756) 8 years ago

In case anyone was confused on how corporations create platforms to write legislation.

Go ahead and remove this platform ALEC, the lawyers will still be writing the legislation, and the politicians will still be cashing their checks.

Honestly, in the grade scheme of bribing, creating something like ALEC wasn't the brightest move to begin with. There's loads of corporations that write legislation, get it submitted and buy off the politicians, without having to put their name on some club.

One would think that ALEC wouldnt be around for too much longer, but maybe that is the point of it. Create a faceless platform for the corporations, so that the rage is directed at a pointless and faceless platform instead of the actual corporations or politicians.

It seems to be working like a charm so far.


[-] 2 points by michaeljamess (1) 9 years ago

ALEC is writing legislation for the states. They are promoting quasi-Libertopian ideals.

FIFA 14 Xbox Coins

[-] 1 points by JGriff99mph (507) 9 years ago

At the end of the day, if the people you vote for are accepting money from these corporations, you are in effect directly helping ALEC.

Thats a reality that some Dems simply don't understand. Only Republicans submit their bills. But they buy off the Dems to keep em quite.

Both sides get what they want, and its been turned into another divisive issue, as opposed to people uniting against ANYONE that is involved with this nonsense.

They don't want a unified public. They don't want unique ideas. They don't want people leading themselves.

Its why they shut OWS down.


[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

ALEC is writing legislation for the states. They are promoting quasi-Libertopian ideals.

So, when you have a problem with prisons then you might want to address the CCA and GEO through ALEC. Because it would be those members of ALEC that are writing nice and nifty pieces that are designed to incarcerate. It used to be drugs but now it is undocumented workers.

You want to catch people and the who is blowing who.....Muckety. Anyhoo............ALEC

ALEC serves as the “state legislators’ think tank.” Join nearly 2,000 fellow state legislators at ALEC – the nation’s largest nonpartisan, individual membership association.

Membership is required.

ALEC serves as the “state legislators’ think tank.” ALEC’s policy staff provides research, policy analysis, scholarly articles, reference materials, legislative bill tracking, and expert testimony on a wide spectrum of issues.

ALEC Model Legislation The centerpiece of Task Force projects is ALEC model legislation.

ALEC is the only state legislative organization that adopts policies and creates model legislation for its members to use in their states.

To date, ALEC has nearly 1,000 pieces of model legislation. Issue Analysis

Short analyses of topical issues that provide perfect preparation for talking points and media briefings.

Report Cards and Special Studies
State-by-state analyses of critical issues such as education and tax and fiscal policy. ALEC Academies and State Issue Seminars

Throughout the year ALEC conducts issue-specific seminars in 20 to 30 state capitols. ALEC Academies are special two-day intensive programs on specific issues, featuring national experts as faculty. Inside ALEC
This magazine for ALEC members is published up to nine times throughout the year. ALEC members can read and learn about issues shaping public policy, the success of policy in state legislatures, and submit their own articles. ALEC Lectures
Reprints of significant speeches and presentations made at ALEC meetings.

ALEC Website
ALEC’s website is a valuable resource to our members. Register for meetings, receive task force updates, find out what other states are doing and how their policies have been successful, and download nearly 1,000 pieces of model legislation.

ALEC National Task Forces

ALEC’s eight National Task Forces serve as public policy laboratories where legislators develop model policies to use across the country. Task Forces also commission research, publish issue papers, convene workshops and issue briefings, and serve as clearinghouses of information on free-market policies in the states. Unique to ALEC Task Forces is their public-private partnership, a synergistic alliance that identifies issues and then responds with common sense, results-oriented policies.

Legislators welcome their private sector counterparts to the table as equals, working in unison to solve the challenges facing the nation.

See ALEC’s upcoming meetings.

Ya. That's off their website. And so is this:

December 10, 2012

ALEC 2013: Jobs, Innovation and Opportunity in the States focuses on policies to get Americans back to work

Washington, DC– The American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) has unveiled its key legislative priorities for 2013 aimed at helping states achieve economic growth and create jobs. With unemployment remaining stubbornly high and most Americans worrying about pocketbook issues like jobs, retirement security and rising healthcare costs, ALEC 2013: Jobs, Innovation and Opportunity in the States focuses lawmakers on our nation’s founding principles of limited government and free markets.

ALEC 2013: Jobs, Innovation and Opportunity in the States focuses on nine areas vital to a robust economy:

1) Limiting Taxes and the Growth of Big Government

2) Protecting Workers’ Retirements

3) Harnessing America’s Energy Resources and Reducing Costs

4) Cutting Red Tape and Eliminating Unnecessary Regulations

5) Economic Opportunity

6) Harnessing Innovation

7) Improving Education

8) Increasing Access to Health Care and Controlling Costs

9) Preventing Lawsuit Abuse

“I know firsthand the economic challenges facing state lawmakers across the country resulting from a stagnant and underperforming economy,” said ALEC Chairman and Connecticut State Representative John Piscopo. “To truly effect change and get people back to work, states must take it upon themselves to embrace pro-growth and fiscally sound policies. We can’t wait for Washington to lead the way.”

Within the nine general issue areas are 25 pieces of legislation, a result of ALEC’s model legislation process, which provides an effective, efficient way for lawmakers to advance policies in their states. This infographic explains the intricacies of that process in more detail.

“There are many groups set up in a similar manner that offer up their own version of model legislation, but ALEC is the only state-focused organization committed to advancing the principles of free market enterprise, limited government and federalism,” said Ron Scheberle, ALEC’s executive director.

For a full list of ALEC’s reports, visit www.alec.org.


I'm not saying that Dem's aren't prostituting themselves out. They sure as hell are. I'm telling you point blank that this organization is writing legislation AND it is being implemented.

[-] -3 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 9 years ago

Great post GF... thanks.... fact is fact.... and much easier to fight something with fact than BS and fantasy

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 years ago

Isn't this fun?

[-] -3 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

No doubt. Its a big problem. Lobbying in general is a big problem. And so are people who take their money.

So why do we tolerate any of them?

In what other aspect of life would we not only tolerate, but openly participate, in something we feel so strongly against?

Its like promoting vegetarianism and claiming to believe in it, and then everytime you get REALLY hungry you run to Wendys. Or being all about less pollution and then buying a hummer to take to your office job.

It just doenst make sense. The political arena is the only one where people are more than happy to settle for absolute bullshit, when other, lesser know options are available- rallies, meetings, alt parties, organizations, etc.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

No. It's about writing legislation.

See, it's real easy to see what is happening nationally. People don't focus too much on what is going down in the states.

[-] -3 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

How come no one implements the legislation that I write?

I guess I dont have enough money to make it happen.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

Well, put on a suit, get an Invisalign grill and then go work for ALEC. Then you can make templates and hand them out.

[-] -2 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

I hate suits. Ive made it this far without buying one, trying not to anytime soon :)

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

Well, then I guess your stuck.

Well, there is Italy and Russia......sleek jogging suits with a large gold chain or two.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 10 years ago

What happens when Goldman Sachs funds both sides?

Henry Paulson is chosen by Bush and he joins Congress, including obama, in passing TARP

What happens when Citi funds both sides? Obama chooses Lew and there's still no regulation in Congress.

And both choose Bernanke. The trillion dollar bailout king pin.

[-] -2 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 10 years ago

If the consequences to this weren't so bad for ordinary folks, it would seem laughable


[-] -2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 10 years ago

Maybe a nervous laugh.

It's definitely one of the simplest ways to explain the corporate takeover of government in less than 30 seconds.

People really need to start thinking about where the trillions came from in the first place. How did these corporations and banks get trillions of dollars? These trillions didn't exist in the early 1900's. People can doubt it all they want, but the federal reserve has definitely just given out trillions to corporations and banks over the years. It's a fact. Through manipulative policies, these fraudulent banks have been able to make money from nothing.

Call me crazy, but I think those trillions would have been better off funding education, health care, infrastructure like cleaner mass transportation and much more. It would have created WAY more jobs than Wall Street and the fraudulent banks that manipulated and abused the system into collapse and it definitely would have made more jobs than the corporations that outsourced millions of jobs all the while pocketing money for the elite 1%

Our monetary policy is the original trickle down policy. Which is why no mainstream corporate funded politician will touch the issue. It's why they work so damn hard to keep Kucinich out.

[-] -1 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 10 years ago

OK....on the basis of the up-side down world we are living in now, where manipulation, fraud, and theft are accepted practices....

You're fucking crazy Trevor to think those trillions of $ would be better spent improving the lives of people.

Let's try getting with the program, eh?


[-] -3 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 10 years ago

hahaha I feel crazy sometimes

[-] 1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Republicans as the state leaders. with the corporation donating to the Democrats...what a perfect racket.

I hope this list cleared a few things up about ALEC, their reach, their money, and finally answering any questions about this


Good night.

[-] 1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

PhRMA looks like they love drugs, and so do Dems and Reps about equally... A zombie nation coming right up !!


[-] 1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Koch Industries: Someone please explain to me who the Democrats are that have accepted almost one million dollars from these people, over the last 10 years?

Please explain to me why DEMOCRATS are accepting money from them? Are they stupid? Or sell outs? Or just another kog in the duopoly?....

Take a wild freakin guess...


[-] 1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Like beer? Dark beer? So does Obama. Maybe thats why he took the most money out of anyone from the ALEC BOARD MEMBER, along with 4 out of the top 5 donors going to Dems....


[-] 1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Phillip Morris donated mainly to Republicans, but Dems arent afraid to get their hands out for some free cash too!!!

Smart corporations always make whores of both sides, keeps em honest


[+] -4 points by freakzilla (-161) from Detroit, MI 10 years ago

Don't forget Wal-mart. For a right wing organization they sure gave heavily to Obama in support of Obamacare, hoping that it will put more mom and pop stores out of business, eliminating their competition.

[-] -2 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Yup, Walmart loves Obama!! Freakin loves him!! Ofcourse, they would have loved Romney or McCain too, doesnt matter to em....

Its just one big duopoly to keep the people fighting with each other while they pillage the people!~!

[-] 1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Hate the Post Office? So does ALEC. Its why it supports UPS so strong.

Who doesnt suppor the Post Office? Someone who leads the pack in acceptance of UPS donations, and ALEC board member....

Who might that be?


You guessed it. The nobel prize winner.

[-] 1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

ALEC loves Insurance, and LOVES forced insurance more than anything. Cant wait until life insurance is mandated as well.

Heres your top five contributions, with Dems taking 3 of the top 5. From an ALEC Board Member.


[-] 1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

ALEC Board Member Pfizer- Dems take 3 of top 5 spots on accepting BRIBES....errrrr.....donations....

Duopoly in full effect. Leading the pack: Obama. Taking more money than anyone from an ALEC Board Member.


[-] 1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Like using gasoline? Think that Keystone is a great move....so does someone else....

Exxon ALEC board member. Who took money from em?

Oh!! Look who is number 2!! The fuckin president!!!! Among a bunch of Republicans!! Fits right in as usual


[-] 0 points by JGriff99mph (507) 9 years ago

How many people in positions of power in this system are whoring out to the money, glad to take it, and convincing you they care about your "needs".




[-] 0 points by AlwaysIntoSomething (42) 9 years ago

Article that breaks down the corporations that created and use ALEC as their platform to advance the corporatism/fascism that we are currently dealing with.

Despite some's claims, this is not a Republican problem, but is Republicrats problem, with Dems lining their pockets as well, many times more so than the Republicans.

The corporate takeover continues, and until the facts are all put on the table for everyone to see, it will continue unabated.

Thats how divide and conquer works. As long as you are furious over the other one, your own gets a free pass. And together we ALL go further down the toilet.

[-] 0 points by AlwaysIntoSomething (42) 9 years ago

Hoping 2014 will finally lead to a boycott of all politicians that accepted ALEC corporate money in the upcoming elections.

I'm not counting on it. The one sided propaganda of each is a lot to overcome when you don't control the media like they do.

[-] -1 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 10 years ago

Silence from a few is deafening.

[-] -1 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 10 years ago

ALEC Board Members- the ones who are writing and pushing the legislation through at the state level.

[-] -1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Bummed the economy has you down? Depressed that you live in a corporate shithole?

Take some Paxil. And then thank ALEC. They push it. And they also funded Obama more than any other candidate in the election.

Eat your pills and shut up, its alllllllll gooooooood....


[-] -1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

AT&T Alec Board Member: Who took money from em, and hence is in bed with ALEC?


[-] -1 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 10 years ago

Errrr.....I kinda get the idea that you think there is a duopoly in play in our country. I most whole heartedly agree.


[-] -2 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Connect the dots on this post. Check out who are the official endorsers of ALEC, and then find out where their corporate donations go to.

You have been warned. Not doing your homework and only yelling gets us all nowhere.

Draw a line in the sand? Not down with ALEC? Then openly denounce anyone who rolls with them. Dont ignore ANYONE.

Have some self respect and demand accountability of all. We cannot scream for equality and then pick and choose who gets the shit.

[-] -2 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

ALEC "private council" members. I think we all know what two groups are accepting each one of these 12 company's money like filthy little animals.

Surprising? No. Not in the least. Take a look around the country. Openly endorsing corruption has some very bad consequences.

Especially when its done for 35 years straight.

[-] -3 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

ALEC is a menace and should be disbanded.

Every politician that accepted their money should be deported.

Every corporation that has EVER been part of their board should be broken.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Why don't you talk about some of the legislation they have written and paid to have passed so far and the legislation in the works.

Some comment on the voter suppression desires of it's founder would also be useful.

As well as who accepted and passed it for them.

This is nothing, if not generic.

Why you ignored answering to the comments I made to you on the subject in other posts, only to ignore the information therein, to promote your own information free post is kind of egotistical of you.

I guess you really are the 800lb gorilla in the room, using you girth, to hide the truth.

[+] -4 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Thats your comment on the post?

What a troll.

[-] -2 points by john32 (-272) from Pittsburgh, PA 10 years ago

Good post...think it should be pretty obvious to people looking at the system objectively that both sides are bought and paid for.

[-] -3 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

One would think so. Its like trying to get the square peg of truth into the round hole of partisanship.

[-] -2 points by john32 (-272) from Pittsburgh, PA 10 years ago

There are a select few who won't budge no matter how much factual information you throw in their direction...like little kids who don't want to hear or see something....cover their ears and close their eyes and scream until you're finished. Wont' name names...but pretty sure it's obvious who they are.

Then there are others that see posts like this that didn't know about it before and can actually think logically and it causes them to question things...too bad they aren't as vocal.

[-] -2 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Walmart quit the board. Perhaps they realized the entire congress and POTUS is already bought out for a while, they can take a break. Focus on more foreign junk.

"Open Secrets reports that in the 2010 election season, Wal-Mart gave $1,485,428 to candidates. $729,723 gave given to federal Democrat candidates and $750,205 was given to federal Republican candidates."

[-] -3 points by HCHC4 (-28) 9 years ago

At this stage in the game, why are we willing to tolerate ANYONE who takes money from ALEC? The people are supposed to have the say in what goes on, not the corporations. This is outright disgusting, and its about time we stop tolerating this bullshit if we really want to claim we are against money in politics.


This is an intersting link. While we all know that UPS is an official ALEC board member, how many of these duopoly politicians are accepting money from companies who have double agent "lobbyists" involved?

The money talks, and there arent ANY in DC willing to make a stand against it. We see how many are taking MTA and really stirring up some shit with it.

Not too many.

Its time those who claim to be against things start walking the walk, and leave the talking to the MSM heads on TV.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 years ago

There is no duopoly.

You haven't proven a thing.

Oh....and the Koch's founded the libe(R)tarians, as we know them today.

Will you talking about "free markets" next?

[-] -3 points by HCHC4 (-28) 9 years ago

You were the one that was part of their party, not me pal.

Check out that link I posted. When it comes to ALEC corporation donations, both parties have their eyes WIDE SHUT, as they accept it!

They may not be the same on everything, but when it comes to laying in bed with ALEC corporations, they are.

The proof is all there for you. Dive in.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 years ago

What party?

You're the one who helped form a gang around here.

You never even bothered to apologize for what you did either.

You got NOTHING but bullshit to offer on your defense of ALEC.

You couldn't follow the money in N. Carolina., or even Florida.

You talk community, but ignore your own.

You should go and take the remaining members of the soap opera with you.

I won't be diving into your pile of shit, ever again.

Clean it up.

[-] -3 points by HCHC4 (-28) 9 years ago

I'm not defending ALEC, I'm against corporate rule.

The difference is you want to focus on only who is introducing their legislation - only Republicans- while I want to take the blame one step further and see who is accepting their money- Republicans and Democrats.

Why this irritates you so much is beyond me. Shouldnt we be pushing EVERYONE who is involved one way or another? I mean, someone has to, right?

Everyone sat by idle after 08 not saying a peep and we got stuck with the Heritage Foundations idea of reform. Mitt Romney's idea of reform. That sucks.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 years ago

I step back even farther and look at who's spending the money.

You don't.

You STILL didn't do ANY research on following the money in N. Carolina, because you knew where it led.

That's willful ignorance on your part.

In fact, you've bitched at me and called me names for naming those names, along with other members of your precious soap opera.

There's a whole lot facts that you refuse to face.

You should just keep your large pile of shit to yourself.

Don't you have some Koch products to buy for your next house flipping project, done with overtime and non union labor?

Do you pay time and a half?

No..........It's you who's corrupt.

That's why you won't deal with the FACT of the soap opera of the banned.

Who's the leader?



[-] -1 points by HCHC4 (-28) 9 years ago

"I step back even farther and look at who's spending the money."

Most of it goes to television ads. No one wants to grass roots campaign anymore.

I think you mean do I get paid overtime, not do I pay. The day a bank will sell me a house is the day you open your eyes. Again, your opinion of me is very far from the truth.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 years ago

Willful ignorance......again.

My eyes are wide open, and have been for decades.

Here's what I know about you.

You're dishonest.

You've passed lies about ME, all the while you refuse to answer the simplest questions about yourself.

You're manipulative, and you don't care much for your fellow travelers on the Planet.

You proudly call them asses and I'm sure you're gearing up to do that again.

You are part of the soap opera of the banned, a group of former posters who's aim is to disrupt this forum at any and all costs to other posters.

I know that you once stated that you enjoy and frequently use the Alex Jones site, stating that you believe in at least some of what he says.

You were incredibly evasive when questioned about that.

There's more of course, but you are currently losing your "duopoly" battle, so good luck, and please be a gracious loser..

[-] -3 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Anyone who accepts money from anyone listed on this post needs to be immediately removed from office.

[-] -2 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

I see the trolls are actively voting down the calls to end money in politics.

[-] -3 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

"Its revolution not reform"


[-] -3 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Johnson and Johnson, an ALEC Board Member, overwhelmingly supported Dems this past election, with Obama leading the charge...


The duopoly is real folks. Its very real.