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Posted 11 months ago on Sept. 5, 2013, 2:22 p.m. EST by Nevada1 (4475)
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[-] 4 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

''The victims of 9/11 are not only encountered in New York. The victims of 9/11 lived in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Libya and today, in Syria, campaigns created and wars waged on the back of the most shocking example of the manipulation of fear in the history of humankind. 9/11 was an insult to the memories of the deceased, an insult to their families.

''The anomalies of the 9/11 attacks have been ably exposed by researchers over the last eleven years, since two aircraft slammed into the Twin Towers just before they appeared to be demolished in a classic implosion operation, since an "aircraft" turned the Pentagon into the Quadragon, yet leaving the lampposts through which it had to pass standing, and before another aircraft allegedly vanished...all 200 tonnes of it, including engines.

''If wreckage of the Air France 447 was found at sea, then it is totally impossible that an aircraft of similar size hitting terrain would simply vaporise. That two plus two do not add up to four in the 9/11 attacks does not attenuate the suffering of those who lost husbands, wives, children, family, loved ones and friends, taken away in a snap, making their loss that much more shocking and difficult to deal with.''

And that's not even mentioning WTC Bldg.7 !!! Thanx for your very powerful link 'Nev1' !! Solidarity !

fiat lux ...

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4475) 11 months ago

Thank you shadz, for your successful effort in getting the truth out.

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

Solidarity 'Nev1' and proof of that pudding will be in the eating but the digestion'll take longer than usual for this particular (bitter)sweet course !!! I too accepted The Official '9/!! Commission' Conspiracy Theory until WTC Building 7 was brought to my attention at a wedding, many years after the event and not one Civil/Structural engineer I know (and I know a few) can now look at those 3 buildings collapse and think ... ''yep, ok .. 'fire' did that'' ! Also fyi here :

e tenebris, lux ...

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4475) 11 months ago

NIST 2008----------------"Our take-home message today is that the reason for the collapse of World Trade Center 7 is no longer a mystery. WTC7 collapsed because of fires fueled by office furnishings. It did not collapse from explosives."

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

Beyond funny and into surreal, lol & hmmm !!! So other than a unique and new set of physical laws, how does NIST - in its now unique wisdom, explain the utterly unnatural symmetry and speed of the collapse of WTC Bldng. 7 & do Building Codes right across the world, now need to be revised IF indeed such a thing can really happen ?!! Also fyi : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article35595.htm !

multum in parvo ...

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4475) 11 months ago

And this one------WTC7 reported down by news person, while still standing behind her.--------------------http://wtc7.net/bbc.html

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

I actually watched that report live in the UK on the day. The reporter and the news anchor call WTC7 by its other name ''The Soloman Brothers' Building'' & allude to its collapse before it had actually done so :

WTC7 is behind her left shoulder but she gets cut off and they later cut to the images of WTC7 falling.

verum ex absurdo ...

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4475) 11 months ago

Burning office furnishings not likely to cause steel to vaporize (3180 F), or molybdenum to melt, (4,752 F). NONOTHERMITE WAS THERE.

[-] 7 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

''Too Many Years Of Lies : From Mossadeq to 9/11'', by Paul Craig Roberts :

''Washington has been at war for 12 years. According to experts such as Joseph Stiglitz and Linda Bilmes, these wars have cost Americans approximately $6 trillion, enough to keep Social Security and Medicare sound for years. All there is to show for 12 years of war is fat bank balances for the armament industries and a list of destroyed countries with millions of dead and dislocated people who never lifted a hand against the United States.

''The cost paid by American troops and taxpayers is extreme. Secretary of Veteran Affairs Erik Shinseki reported in November 2009 that “more veterans have committed suicide since 2001 than we have lost on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan.” Many thousands of our troops have suffered amputations and traumatic brain injuries. At the Marine Corps War College Jim Lacey calculated that the annual cost of the Afghan war was $1.5 billion for each al-Qaeda member in Afghanistan. Many US and coalition troops paid with their lives for every one al-Qaeda member killed. On no basis has the war ever made sense.

''Washington’s wars have destroyed the favorable image of the United States created over the decades of the cold war. No longer the hope of mankind, the US today is viewed as a threat whose government cannot be trusted.''

Also see re. WTC Bldg.7, 'Billboard' et al : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article36196.htm .

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (4475) 11 months ago

Everyone on Earth needs to see these articles. And with all this, the income of the 1%, has reached record highs.

[-] 4 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

Re. 'Conspiracy Theories', consider the following :

a) When two or more people plan to commit a crime, there exists by definition - a ''conspiracy'' and

b) Therefore any theory about who did it, or how and why it was done, is by definition - a 'conspiracy theory', so

c) The question is then not whether you are a 'conspiracy theorist' - but for which conspiracy theory you find the evidence most compelling.

Further to your comment, please consider the following articles:

ad iudicium ...

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4475) 11 months ago

9/11 Truth and Justice must happen, or the world situation will only get worse. Am calling and writing reps in DC for Real 9/11 Investigation.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

Shadow ban test - on this day of all days, tch !!!

fiat lux ...

[-] 4 points by DKAtoday (27957) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

ON this day 9/11/2013 :

Please take a moment to watch to listen to consider. Imagine the speaker to be any/every child and adult around the world - who just like you & I - just want to live a good life.

On 9/11, A 12-Year-Old Kid Learned A Hard Lesson

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

Yep, very emotional and affecting and in compliment :

So, re. below as you too will have noted - what's the story with the shadow ban d'you think ?

ad iudicium ...

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (27957) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

Now that the United States is no longer governed by the US Constitution, but by a crazed ideology that has given rise to a domestic police state more complete than that of Communist East Germany and to a warfare state that attacks sovereign countries based on nothing but manufactured lies, we are left with the irony that Russia and China are viewed as constraints on Washington’s ability to inflict evil, death, and destruction on the world.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article36195.htm

So Bizarre - who woulda thought we would live to see this day?

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4475) 11 months ago

Yes, So Bizarre.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (27957) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

Replying here - http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article36195.htm

The neocon argument boils down to a claim that history has chosen “democratic capitalism” and not Karl Marx as the future. To comply with history’s choice, the US must beef up its military and impose the American Way on the entire world.

In so doing destroying Democracy - at home - and poisoning it around the world.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (27957) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

In compliment to : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article36195.htm

THANKS

EDIT: NO SHIT = "Washington’s wars have destroyed the favorable image of the United States created over the decades of the cold war. No longer the hope of mankind, the US today is viewed as a threat whose government cannot be trusted."

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DKAtoday ‏@DKAtoday

Paul Craig Roberts: Too Many Years Of Lies: From Mossadeq to 9/11 http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article36195.htm#.UjDFOX9WVaM.twitter … On This Day 9/11/2013 pls CONSIDER & share

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (27957) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

Re - what's the story with the shadow ban d'you think ?

I don't know. Copy the Post link and send it in to the abuse e-mail.

Or copy the post link and send it to jart on a PM - she is on the forum today.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (27957) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

Eh? = Shadow ban test

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[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

Charlie Rose still works for CBS but ICH is a 'Clearing House for Information' ZD - compiled from many sources that don't get used by ''Fox or CNN''. Try this one for size from someone who once worked right in the heart of the USG : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article36195.htm . So, re. Nevada1's forum-post here - whaddya think of the fact that it has been shadow-banned ?!

ne quid nimis ...

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[-] 4 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

Re. the PCR 9/!! piece, I would sincerely request you to read the whole thing at your leisure and re. your final italicised sentence, I chuckle a little and concur wholeheartedly and slide this gently your way too :

multum in parvo ...

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 months ago

You like the WND logo?

[-] 1 points by doitagain (234) from Brooklyn, NY 11 months ago

Obviously two parties come up with agreement. In interview Charlie Rose asked Assad of Why is you support Hezbollah and Taliban? Assad answered - how come we talking about Hezbollah and haven't noticed a big elephant in the room. Under the same allegations Mr. Putin called secretary of state liar.Kerry said there is no alquaeda militants presented in the region, - obviously lie. The question is why america support (with tax dollars) "rebels" They are not rebels! They are violent muslim fanatics who want to destroy Syria and create Islamic Caliphate. Doesn't sound right? But it definitely has nothing to do with sovereignty of Syria nor with democracy http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front#Ideology

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[-] 4 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

What evidence there is points to exactly that & inter alia, Dr. Steven Jones' researches in this matter contain way more clear, repeatable, scientific analysis than NIST's post factum, rationalisation and its smoke & mirrors exercise and nothing else can explain all the molten metal still liquid days and weeks after the collapse. Also for ''not likely'' read 'impossible' (eg. Windsor Tower Fire, in Madrid 2005 et al) :

ad iudicium ...

[-] 0 points by JustGotOffWork (-64) 11 months ago

Why is it so impossible for people to imagine criminals in our government? We find criminals in our schools, at work, our neighborhoods. Bad people are everywhere but the only bad people in our government seem to be the people in our government that our government tells us are bad. "Innocent until we say otherwise" and everyone is just ok with that.

[-] -3 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 11 months ago

Forget Truthers. I want to know what's up with Saudi Arabia.

[+] -4 points by pullmyfinger33 (-37) 11 months ago

Oh yes...I actually saw Dick Cheney place the charges to bring down that building.

You fucking moronic dildos'

So how about the moon landing? Faked too?

[-] 3 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 11 months ago

there's no way a secret agency executed the gas attack in Syria

so america would not have to face the fact that

the US trained and supplied the egytion army that massacred protesters

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4475) 11 months ago

Desperate Trashy

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (27957) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

It does not deserve acknowledgement - well - nothing more then a stinkle anyway. {:-])

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4475) 11 months ago

Hey DKA, As always, we will get the truth out there.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (27957) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

Yep - despite any blizzard of shills.

[+] -6 points by almondBoy (-255) 11 months ago

There's nothing to rethink. It's been over a decade. Conspiracy theorists found nothing. The official story still stands as the best. And WHO CARES! We need to deal with the problems of today! The very real problems. 911 is ancient history. It's gone. It's dead. It's the past.

[-] 5 points by Nevada1 (4475) 11 months ago

Trashy

[-] 2 points by wolfe23 (4) from Austin, TX 11 months ago

not that I in any way think 9/11 is thee end all/be all of moving us forward on today's problems... I do think this quote is a good one to reflect on...

Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. When change is absolute there remains no being to improve and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

-George Santayana

[+] -5 points by almondBoy (-255) 11 months ago

I'm not saying we should forget the past.

What I'm saying is we should forget the delusional fictional past for 911 made up by conspiracy theorists. They had more than a decade. They tried to come up with an alternative. None worked. No evidence was found. Their idea of an alternate ending didn't pan out. Time to let go. Time to move on. Truthers lost. It's OK. Pack your bags and head out to the next game.

[-] 3 points by cosplay (-29) 11 months ago

This video might change your mind. It made me think

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rEl_-cQVRYo&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DrEl_-cQVRYo

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4475) 11 months ago

Clever and Telling.

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[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 months ago

What is the official story's explanation of the collapse of the third tower anyway? Did some burning jet fuel from one of the other building's splash onto it disintegrating its steel structure, and causing it to collapse? Or perhaps it just fell out of sympathy for the other buildings?

I understand that such an event would be a singularity, having never occurred before in history, but if its the "official" story, it has to be true "by definition", right?

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4475) 11 months ago

NIST 2008-----"fires fueled by office furnishings"----please see above posts

[-] 2 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 months ago

I think the idea that it fell out of sympathy for the other buildings sounds more plausible.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4475) 11 months ago

Agree.

[+] -9 points by georgesanchez (-15) 11 months ago

This post is against the forum rules we decided upon by consensus in a general assembly. Isn't there a moderator that can ban it? We don't need to talk about 911 nonsense, we have serious problems to solve. This is a distraction, probably planted by the government so we forget about Monsanto, Snowden, and all the other important stuff.

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (4475) 11 months ago

GeorgeTRASHYsanchez

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 11 months ago

The chemical scare in Syria is what you're referring to.

[+] -6 points by georgesanchez (-15) 11 months ago

Yes, that's another distraction. At least it's brand new so we can understand why some people might still be fooled. The conspiracy theories of 911 are more than a decade old! There's no reason some people still remain distracted by that nonsense.

[-] -2 points by gnomunny (6647) from St Louis, MO 11 months ago

What do you mean the chemical scare in Syria is another distraction?

[-] 0 points by gnomunny (6647) from St Louis, MO 11 months ago

Don't you worry, man. With an estimated 3.5 million people expected at the next March Against Monsanto event, nobody's going to forget that any time soon. And Snowden's not going away either.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4475) 11 months ago

Excellent.

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