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Forum Post: This is the ORIGINAL and LEGITIMATE entry regarding the ignorance of 'low information' conservatives. SMACK!

Posted 6 years ago on July 26, 2014, 7:16 a.m. EST by StillModestCapitalist (343)
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For the past two months, a user from San Francisco Criagslist, otherwise known as 'OccupiedFrog' has been trying desperately to intimidate me, muddy the waters of understanding, and prevent others from reading my entries. He has resorted to a number of strategies. One of which has been to copy my titles word for word and post them with his own entries filled with irrelevant or misleading crap or with significant alterations to my own text. He did so again with my entry recently posted on SFCL in which I defend Obama and rip on his 'low information' conservative critics. His twisted version of my entry can be read here: https://occupywallst.org/forum/alright-you-low-information-conservatives-you-aske/

Below is the original entry which I posted several weeks ago:

Alright you 'low information' conservatives. You asked for it. SMACK! (Nationwide.)

A word for the utterly predictable Obama bashing partisan puppets. Otherwise known as 'low information' conservatives.

Obama haters. Those of you who feel that because Obama can't resolve conflict outside of his own borders, he must be incompetent. He is far from it. The problem is that you die-hard partisans misinterpret everything you see, hear, and read. Your stubborn partisan mentality has literally prevented you from absorbing the truth. Not just any truth but truth well documented. Obama's credibility and ability to consider complex issues in detail are a matter of formal record.

The truth I refer to is this:

"Now let me be clear -- I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity.

He's a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.

I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.

I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars."

Naive my ass. Incompetent my ass. Inexperienced my ass.

As predicted by Barrack Obama, the Iraq War did in fact prove to be about as dumb as wars get. Not necessarily the concept but certainly the effort under the circumstances at that time. Virtually the entire Republican party from the state level all the way up to the highest office was proven dead wrong on the issue. Roughly 1/2 of the Democratic party was proven dead wrong as well (The other 1/2 were proven right.).

Barack Obama was one of the exceptions. The man is a critical thinker. You utterly predictable Obama bashers would realize this if your own die-hard partisan puppet ideology didn't prevent you from absorbing any knowledge which does not re-affirm that ideology. You simply filter it out. This is pure cowardice.

You die-hard partisan puppet Obama bashers also fail to realize that because of a growing world population, greater demands on life-sustaining resources, economic instabilities, record high economic disparities, obsessive competition, the profound and corrupt influence of the private sector on virtually every politician, corrupt world leaders, and your own determination to separate as many people as possible by political party, it has become more difficult than ever for an American president to effect anything remotely resembling widespread or long term stability outside of the American borders.

Damn right mistakes have been made by the Obama Administration. In my opinion, they haven't been anywhere near as profound or costly as the mistakes made by the Bush Administration but then again, Obama hasn't been challenged by the likes of Hussein or Bin Laden. At least not as president. For that reason, it's a difficult comparison to make. What I do know for sure is that significant mistakes were made by the last administration. They have been made by this administration. They will be made by the next administration and the one after that and the one after that. This will be true regardless of which political party is in power at any given time. It is an absolute certainty.

The issue of foreign policy is far too engulfing and complex to define by your small minded die-hard partisan Obama bashing ideology. It will never be understood in any real detail by the masses, the partisan pundits, or virtually anyone outside of high ranking office and without access to classified information.

The painful reality is that in this post 9/11 world with a growing population, a warming climate, limited resources, and all of the complications which arise from competition, no American President could ever hope to have anything but a somewhat positive but very limited effect on global stability. In fact, any President would be lucky to break even. Still, you die-hard partisan puppet Obama bashers live by some outrageous Fantasy Land pipe dream that your own partisan puppet heroes could ever do significantly better.

I'm telling you they can't. Their failure to do so is a matter of formal record.

The Bush Administration failed to anticipate 9/11 as it was being planned by Al-Qaeda in both Afghanistan and America. Because of that failure, we lost over 3000 civilians in one day. The Pentagon was severely damaged. The subsequent effort in Afghanistan did produce results but it was clear by 2006 that some of the progress made was being lost. More losses were taken in 2007 and 2008. The effort had become less effective and more costly in terms of resources and lives. Osama Bin Laden, the mastermind behind 9/11, was able to elude the Bush Administration full term. He was not held accountable for any of it. Saddam Hussein defied a number of UN resolutions under Bush. He did so with blatant arrogance. He had virtually the entire intelligence community including that of the US fooled under Bush. He did not have the weapons of mass destruction. The initial invasion of Iraq was based in large part, on false US intelligence. That initial invasion was a success but the Bush Administration failed to anticipate the civil war and related complications that would arise from the sudden loss of a very effective, although brutal dictator. We lost over 4000 US troops in Iraq under Bush. Tens of thousands were severely injured. Over 150,000 Iraqi civilians lost their lives under Bush. Russia invaded Georgia under Bush. Iran was already in the process of trying to develop nuclear weapons under Bush. Syria, North Korea, ect. All of these foreign policy issues were brewing long before Obama took the office of President.

I'm telling you die-hard partisan puppet Obama bashers that by disregarding the growing complexities of foreign policy, demanding that any US President or political party somehow overcome them, and trying to place excessive blame for their failure to do what no US president or political party has ever done, you make blithering idiot fools of yourselves.

For the record, I am not a Democrat. I would never lower myself to affiliation with any political party. I do oppose Obama on a number of issues and I support the opposition on several. However, I will not stand by and let you utterly predictable die-hard partisan puppet Obama bashing ideologues dumb down my fellow citizens with shallow, misleading, terribly spun, or blatantly false information.

It will never be anywhere near as simple as you claim it to be.

By the way you flat-footed FOX loving fxxx wads. If you have the nerve to claim that Hussein had the WMDs that he was accused of having by the Bush administration, then explain to us which of those WMDs in his arsenal at that time fell under the definition given to justify the Iraq war. Then explain why he didn't use them to defend his empire even as it was being crushed before his eyes. Then rate the accuracy of the pre-war intelligence assessments regarding those WMDs made under the Bush administration on a scale from 1-10.

Tell you what little partisan puppet morons. Because you are notorious for running your idiot conservative mouths and posting your small minded 'low information' entries all over the web without doing your research first, I'll give you a prime opportunity to get a few of your facts straight before you embarrass yourselves any further.

Read this: http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/07/10/3458691/still-no-wmd-iraq/

Ready, set, GO!



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[-] -2 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 6 years ago

Beware of 'OccupiedFrog'. He is absolutely nothing but a troll. He followed me here from San Francisco Craigslist in a desperate attempt intimidate and confuse.