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Forum Post: The Romney/Ryan Health Care Plan

Posted 2 years ago on Aug. 11, 2012, 8 a.m. EST by factsrfun (6674) from Phoenix, AZ
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[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (26790) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Soledad - you gotta love it - she does it again.

CNN's Soledad O'Brien Continues Bludgeoning The GOP In The Face With Facts

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6674) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

She tries if only she were competent.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

She seemed competent as she beat the gop up!

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6674) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

he easily moved her away from the clear lie in the ad about the money being paid in, this is something the right talks about all the time, about how "the moneys not there" don't let they run from their lies back to their distortions, anyway like I say, it's good to see effort

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Lyin' Ryan & BullMitt Romney are the biggest liars?

Elect progressives. Vote out anti medicare republicans

[-] -2 points by brudlo (-454) 2 years ago

ms o brian is a twit. perfect for the msm.

[-] 1 points by repubsRtheprob (1209) 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

name calling = weak arguments. It is all you ever post. You never discuss substantive issues. You are never respectful, never civil. You come here only to tear down.

Why can't you be nice?. Why can't you behave?.

Try positiveness, and honesty. It is life affirming. Being good is it's own reward.

Are your positions so weak that you can't have a civil debate.?

[-] -1 points by brudlo (-454) 2 years ago

i have heard ms o brian. she is what she is, a twit.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Meaningless, offensiveness. No substance.

elect progressives, Vote out anti medicare republicans

[-] 0 points by brudlo (-454) 2 years ago

"meaningless, offensiveness. No substance" that ms o'brian for ya.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

I repeat. You are simply insulting everyone who disagrees with you using the schoolyard bully tactics of your candidate Romney.

[-] 0 points by brudlo (-454) 2 years ago

Try rewriting that, in English.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Bully!

[-] 0 points by brudlo (-454) 2 years ago

you know how to edit. congratulations.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Thanks.

[-] -1 points by brudlo (-454) 2 years ago

too bad you can't recognize sarcasm.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Who says?

[-] 1 points by brightonsage (4494) 2 years ago

Excellent table of FACTS. Misinformation (deliberate) is much more prevalent than the truth. Of course much more needs to be done but rather than adopt a system that works and cuts costs and is internationally competitive (we still have competition) it had to be designed to buy some contributions and thereby some votes.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6674) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

The choices are becoming clearer to my mind, I hope others see it that way,

I have a dream,

Gore v Ryan 2016....

[-] 2 points by doitagain (234) from Brooklyn, NY 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6674) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

It seemed too easy, but I agree, I don't think you could call it Freudian it was more just right out there, this is what it's about for the right Ryan in '16 now it's up to us will the "other" side have another banker pleaser?

[-] 1 points by doitagain (234) from Brooklyn, NY 2 years ago

sure it does pleasures. handsome for women, cute for today 6teens, good for corps and children and all men. its up to us to wake up. we know exactly who is going to be next leader in North Korea in 5 years. We know who is going to represent the country in next 5 years, - another corporate rat http://occupywallst.org/forum/twelve-things-you-should-know-about-vice-president/

[-] 1 points by brightonsage (4494) 2 years ago

By then Ryan might get his House seat back?

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6674) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Ryan as good as got the 2016 nomination, I'm sure he won't be stupid enough not to run for his house seat in 2012 will he? have you heard is he stepping aside? Maybe he figures he can run for 2016 better from out of office.

[-] 1 points by brightonsage (4494) 2 years ago

Cantor is threatened and I thought I heard Ryan might be also, but maybe not. After people really get to know him (he has never had the kind of opposition research he will see now), he may not look so good even to the folks back home.

By then, his formula is either going to be discredited or we will be living in the hell of it.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6674) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

and I just read a piece where it goes over his chances of getting the nomination and they are not so solid if they lose, and if they win it would be 2020, but I do think that will be in the minds of many knocking doors and making calls, that they do it for Ryan, I have been very surprised to hear about what has been happening in WI, I always thought they were pretty smart up there then I heard about Ryan and Walker.

[-] 0 points by ivian (-60) 2 years ago

ryan had to file in june to be on the ballot in wisconsin to run for his house seat. its wisconsin law. he will be legally running for vp and his house seat. if ryan is elected vp and wins his house seat , he will vacate the seat and a special election will be held for that seat.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6674) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

thank you ivian, it is not uncommon for people to run for both

[-] 0 points by ivian (-60) 2 years ago

i cited the wisonson law. ryan had to file by the end of june, long before he knew that he would be asked to be on the romney ticket.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6674) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

several have stepped aside in such cases even after filing, he could save the taxpayers a lot of money by doing that now, but not all do

[-] 0 points by ivian (-60) 2 years ago

perhaps its too late for the republicans to put anyone in place ( law ) on the ballot.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

I think he just doesn't have confidence in his own parties ticket.

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[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

More dishonesty

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[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 years ago

Consider : That 'The Ryan/R-Money' HeaLth Non-Plan' = The - 'To 'L' with the rest ; The Devil take the hindmost ; We don't Care ; We have NO Plan' plan !!!

Ryan is an .. Ayn Rand worshipping Psychopath !!

Just like Alien-Human Hybrid Mittens R-money !

caveat ...

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6674) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

OK I get it I forgot the L,

So we do agree that the Ryan health care plan is too cruel to wish upon even Republicans? (or do we agree on how much we hate Republicans?)

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 years ago

Somewhat less pedantically on my part :

caveat emptor ...

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6674) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Referring to Ayn Rand as verses may be the scariest part of the whole story…

Good article, but I didn’t vet this guy, if I like what I read….see how I am….

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 years ago

Re. The 'Rand / Ryan / Rmoney' co-mingle, my favourite bit was :

  • But Paul was always the starry-eyed, perhaps wild-eyed. idealist. He read Austrian economic texts and far-right authors with a passion, committing to memory the writings of Friedrich Hayek, Ludwig von Mises, Milton Friedman and his intellectual heartthrob, Ayn Rand. Reading Rand, the newly-minted Republican vice presidential contender once said was “the reason I got involved in public service.” !

'Ayn Rand' and "public service" in the same sentence ?!!

Consider - Ryan puts the 'Moron' into 'oxymoron', lol !!!

verum ex absurdo ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6674) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

I think he meant to say public slaying....

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6674) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Communication may be overrated

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 years ago

But without 'comms', where'd we be ? Also please see :

fiat lux ...

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6674) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Just look at that photo, those born to privilege often think the peasants don’t work hard enough.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 2 years ago

Yet in truth WTF do 'They' oabout 'hard work' ?!

e tenebris, lux ...

[-] 1 points by brightonsage (4494) 2 years ago

I read heath and got the "L" out.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6674) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Thanks

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[-] 0 points by SteveKJR (-497) 2 years ago

This plan is dated for 2023 - do you really think that between now and then this plan will be implimented?

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

I thought the plan was: "don't get sick, If you do, Die quickly"

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

U support Lyin' Ryan?

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[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6674) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

I'm sure more will be taken out of it any place there is still some help for people, after all by 2023 people are going to have to be tough to make it if R&R are elected.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Not if we keep these right wing 1% plutocrat tools out of office!

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[-] -3 points by ssjkakkarotx (-77) 2 years ago

More and More Dr's are refusing to accept new medicare patients. Why is that???

[-] 4 points by TitusMoans (2451) from Boulder City, NV 2 years ago

Where's your source? If you're going to make sweeping statements, back them up. I'm sure that you, Paul Ryan, and Mittney are in all in agreement. Sick people should die and relieve the system of any further burden.

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[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

You don't support these reverse robin hoods do you?

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Maybe they are heartless republicans who put profit over people.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6674) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

I know a number of doctors who will take anybody who can pay, times are getting tough on doctors too.