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Forum Post: "The Myth of the Liberal Media ; The Propaganda Model of News" and "OutFoxed" !! [Videos]

Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 20, 2011, 11:08 a.m. EST by shadz66 (19985)
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"Edward Herman and Noam Chomsky demolish one of the central tenets of our political culture, the idea of the "liberal media." Instead, utilizing a systematic model based on massive empirical research, they reveal the manner in which the news media are so subordinated to corporate and conservative interests that their function can only be described as that of 'elite propaganda.' !" + "OUTFOXED ...

a) 'The Myth of the Liberal Media' : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6435.htm ;

"If you want to understand the way a system works, you look at its institutional structure. How it is organized, how it is controlled, how it is funded." -Noam Chomsky

"The Mainstream media really represent elite interests, and what the propaganda model tries to do is stipulate a set of institutional variables, reflecting this elite power, that very powerfully influence the media." -Edward Herman

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b) "OUTFOXED" : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6737097743434902428 . A film which examines how media empires, led by Rupert Murdoch's Fox News, have been running a "race to the bottom" in television news. This film provides an in-depth look at Fox News and the dangers of ever-enlarging corporations taking control of the public's right to know.

fiat lux ...



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[-] 3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

great post

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 12 years ago

Thanx 'GF' but I do not claim any credit whatsoever.

Assuming and presuming that you don't already know about it, my seasonal gift to you (and to all !!) is : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/ and if you scroll down Dec.18th items (on the present front page), you'll see where I'm coming from ;-)

The best wishes of the season to you.

pax et lux ...

[-] 1 points by FreedomIsFree (340) 12 years ago

Good one, shadz. The corporate media are marginalizing themselves, and the puppet strings are getting more and more apparent.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

''Children are killed by American weapons in Yemen every year. Then a refinery blows up, and America suddenly pays attention!'' - by Anthony Harwood:

fiat lux ...

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

Children are killed by American weapons in the U.S. on a nearly daily basis. Why should the U.S. pay more attention to Yemeni children than our own? Yemen has its own government and institutions to take care of Yemeni children.

U.S. citizenship has its privileges as does Yemeni citizenship. If Yemen so desires, it can also build up its institutions in a similar way as the U.S. did gradually over time. There are comparative advantages of different places but no absolute advantages assuming as given, the proper knowledge and technologies ( a "traitorous" culture can always grow knowledge into technologies wherever there is freedom and creativity with advice and support; in the U.S, we've succeeded in being able to satisfy the basics of life for most people that we've come to the point of taking seemingly frivolous things most seriously; in high school during puberty, I was obsessed with a zit on my face so Dad took me to a neighborhood pharmacy and surely enough, [Clearasil(R)] pimple/acne cream was already available; he also pushed a bottle of hair-grooming liquid into my purchase, obviously still a bit irked by my unkempt hair [and perhaps insufficiently polished-to-shine shoes, too] lingering from the days when he taught me the hula dance; before our immigrating to the U.S., he told ¿or enticed? me that the [ mongrel-race { if one looks deeply enough, every living human being is likely and luckily mongrel unless their ancestors have been inbreeding for generations and pruned back regularly for health } ] Americans dressed rather casually and exerted much less social pressure than the Brits upon grooming; it was understandable that I, living and growing up as a teenager in Manhattan instead of London, should take my American Liberty to sport a head of unkempt hair [yep, like U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson's!] ) Okay, okay, I do drink orange juice but it certainly doesn't come back out of my hair in the Burning-Hair Men's Festival! Universal Gravitation, not osmosis, dictates where it goes. A dried lakebed offers flat {nearly Euclidean} space for canine Buttbook kiosk-scent-marking. Bring freedom to the green prisoner of the DPRK.

If bootstrapping a country or society, recall how Red China turned to its archenemy in the Korean conflict, the U.S.A. ( which had surely built the "new Great Wall" of flesh and blood out of the Chinese "volunteers;" the problem with this anthem is that Red China's greatest danger no longer comes from abroad -- Gen. MacArthur was fired in the 1950s, more than sixty years ago; Red China is dangerous because it's still singing the 1950s arrangement and sporting 1960-era leadership while trying to cope with nearly 2020 reality ) for starting a trading relationship in 1979. Now it's obvious to where trading with the U.S. had brought Red China. If it were the Chinese Communist Party doing the China Miracle, one would expect 1949 instead of 1979 because the CCP conquered mainland China by 1949. Why was there the three decades delay? Idol worship of the errant non-criticizable Mao, on penalty of Homokebab. In 1979, the CCP learnt to "drink tea" rather than being "tightfisted" just as the Brits had figured out in Hong Kong long ago, perhaps in 1956. It's not the tea which mattered. It's the not-squeezing-tightly on the penile urethra resisting the liquid pressure when making a circumcised offering to the bidét. If God somehow arranges a big tall glass of freshly squeezed orange juice for you despite your having drunk a bottle of Coca-Cola and some water, don't resist the liquid pressure when you get the urge. Hurry. With the bidét, God can make all things beautiful. God's phytosexual and Homo-sexual commandments: "feel no shame in being completed and fuck! In my time," "be fruitful and multiply," and "feel no fear in being completed and die! In my time." The corruption of the Serpent was to make Adam and Eve feel ashamed of their God-made "naked" bodies, though God had made them in "God's image." Heterosexual mating and love was made pleasurable by God and for God to bestow "eternal life" through child births (eternal-life engine sputters because it must "surely die" due to the imposition of justice but it still possesses "eternal life" due to its having been made "in [eternal-living] God's image") despite having the corruption of the Serpent. Microsoft put the FORMAT command into DOS and it worked analogously as the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. "If you execute the FORMAT DOS command, your disk holding your memories will surely DIE!"

Also recall how Steve Jobs saved Apple Computer, Inc. from going bankrupt -- he turned to Apple's archrival of olden times for help! Microsoft largely killed off Apple but Bill Gates of Microsoft had recognized Apple's strengths firsthand in the intense competition while Apple's Harvard-MBA formerly sugar-water-selling CEO had no vision so he was crashing Apple with cost-cutting measures that conveyed "crummy low touch." While the desktop-computer battle was happening on my desk, I would have booed at Steve Jobs, too, at the time when Bill Gates showed up and was introduced by Steve Jobs as the forced white knight (Microsoft was actually under the gun in multiple jurisdictions at the time being investigated for anti-competitive and monopolistic practices.)

Different circumstances make somewhat strange bedfellows. Bill Gates made out well with his "save-my-former-enemy" or "love-thy-enemy" investment in Apple Computer, Inc, I'm pretty sure of that. He did mellow out over time (as I thought that he probably would with his unassuming slope-hugging "mansion" home. The other Microsoft cofounder, Steve Ballmer, a different character for sure, unsurprisingly had a vastly different kind of home.) I wonder whether it was due to his having been married or having befriended Warren Buffett.

The CCP is not a Las Vegas secret. What Kyle Bass' tweet @9:10 said as having happened to Jack Ma in Red China may not stay there but can also happen to Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, etc.

I find it to be weird how so many corporations claiming to make so much profit in Red China will wake up one day to discover that their cumulative profits may well be the one thing that will be treated as Las Vegas secrets (ever heard of currency controls by a state?) -- no more Alibaba opening the door to the treasures but there'll still be more cases similar to how Cathay Pacific's CEO having been forced to resign.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

That fkn atrocious first line & paragraph was all the horse-shit from U that I engaged with - so the rest of your b-s that U added to several times no doubt remains unread - because U are apparently quite happy for US bombs, planes & allies to keep murdering Yemeni kids! I have told U before but in any case U will continue to spew regurgitated Imperial & Corporate propaganda at every opportunity. So Fk-Off & read...

cave - bellum se ipsum alet!

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

It's not the U.S. but Red China which is trying to control resources that don't belong to it [nor to the West], pitting other countries against other countries.

Goldfinger strapped 007 down to the table so the U.S. isn't imperialistic ( peace between the warring bands of brothers can ONLY come from their making up with each other amongst themselves because the U.S. doesn't want to be imperialistic and stay "exploiting" its "colonies" forever; the followings are the so-called American "colonies" since WWII under the thumb of the U.S. Military: Nippon-koku in Japan, BRD in West Germany, and ROK in South Korea; they are all modern industrial powerhouses and very well off in economic terms, at least; my Dad { immigrating to the U.S. was his idea since WWII } who's been around between 25 { concrete, with physical proof } and up to perhaps 50 countries in my best estimate, used to say in astonishment, "Geez, the people of these countries conquered or occupied by the U.S. Military live better than some victors of WWII!" Contrast these Cold-War buffer countries with those on the other side in the Soviet bloc: PRC in mainland China, DDR in East Germany, and DPRK in North Korea; isn't it obvious why the Soviet Union imploded? it had problems with its economics, likely ideological and not material per sé in origin because in the Soviet bloc were the vast continental countries with natural wealth { DPRK has a lot of coal reserve so it still uses much coal despite its having nuclear-technology-capable experts who know how to blow things up sky high with nuclear energy but somehow they couldn't even light up a single light-bulb to let each common DPRK person read in the evening darkness as the DPRK has extremely high literacy rate, near the highest if not the highest in the world -- similarly, regarding controlled net-energy-positive nuclear fusion, the U.S. and the rest of the world are in the same situation: we can blow the World apart and make it cold and dark with much soot though still weakly glowing with radiation for generations but we cannot make an unfortunate surviving child smile at the meal of radioactive mushrooms grown from the cadavers of its parents or the cancers and painful sores growing upon and gnawing its body; } even the contrast between the two sides is stark across the Taiwan Strait with similar people, similar latitudes, similar cultures, similar languages, but different politico-economic ideology and Taiwan's nearly being an ally of the U.S; the PRC was wandering in the wilderness for three decades [waiting for the dictator, Mao Zedong, to die] until it finally found the courage to befriend the U.S.)

Not only does the U.S. respect the sovereignty of other countries such as Iran, Yemen, North Korea, Russia, Red China, etc, the U.S. actively seeks to enhance and strengthen their independence. We of the U.S. subscribe to "the redtube conception palace of all empires" Miss Pussy Galore in the Donald John Trump Thought "The West is Red" which was undoubtedly inspired by the great deeds of the glorious founder of the DPRK, Kim Il-Sun ( I personally dislike the 'g' at the end of his name because he's as glorious, bright, and life-giving as the warm spring sun and he's still not "sung" yet in the songs of the West. "Sun" seems to be more appropriate, at least for the moment. )

Our glorious parabolic-mirror-like supreme leader reflects and focuses the warm fatherly glow of Kim Il-Sun to promote the growth and prosperity of the aforementioned countries, "the spring flowers" of the World, under the U.S, E.U, and U.N. sanctions and tariffs to sanctify their state sovereignty and promote their independence using the glorious Juche principle of Kim Il-Sun. Mirrors are okay but One Earth, One Sun! Does Korea want to get the smoke and cinder heritage of Syria (via war and the king of the ruins still holds on to power) or become a well-off freedom powerhouse like Germany (via peace)? Oh, say, can you see 》das Friedenstor 《 in the golden sunset?

Everyone is invited to come to have fun at the Burning-[Herr Führer]Hair-Furor-Men's Festival in Area 88 (don't be tugged into Area 69, though! Advanced societies breed obesity and diabetes with automobiles and elevators which is why Kim Jong-Un may understand well and readily adapt to high-rise living in Manhattan just as our Hair-Furor Supreme Leader did, moving in from Queens) Orangutan has learnt empathy to share a (soon-to-be-E.U.-tariff-free) banana so no sea monkey needs be left out of the high-octane premium banana-republic smoothie.

Live from Hong Kong.

A battle fought in a major city of Red China against J a p a n e s e tanks was "the Battle of Shanghai."

Troop carriers may not be well armored at their undercarriages. Underbelly explosions may destroy them and kill the troops. Test that early to assess effectiveness. They also need fuel for mobility so going after fuel and munitions depot can make sense for defense. Choke points such as entrances and exits of bridges and tunnels need to be well guarded. Also the invading troops may not know the layouts of cityscape and escape or reinforcement routes well so it can be an advantage to the defenders in urban guerilla warfare. The most important task is to destroy the invaders' means of communications. In a rebellious population of millions strong, without coordination to concentrate their forces, the invaders will be swamped eventually (they'll need water, electricity, food, and garbage removal services; all of which can be shut off, poisoned, cut off, starved/embargoed, and piled up in a siege of the barracks.) Remember that just across the border, the people there speak the same dialect and may become allies someday, perhaps in the far North. Everyone, including the police, may be a Northerner to an Antarctican.

After eating many mooncakes, the people of China overthrew the Mongols despite the Mongols' tight control over the meat cleavers of the populace. They also fought against the fascists so Hong Kong 香港 continues with the glorious heirloom tradition of 加油。

Long Live Trump Thought!

Long Live our Great Helmsman!

The day is dawning. The West is red, the sun is rising!

Here came the gunshot to celebrate the 70th anniversary of the founding of the People's Republic of China: https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/sides-scuffle-hong-kong-day-protests-begins-65968496

"Today, Hong Kong. Tomorrow, the World!" -- Mushroom farmer, Xi Jinping's Confusian DLLM bar (or bat? I frankly haven't peeked there at the "mother"land yet to see whether it can qualify as a "farter"land) mitzvah delivered in Cantonese, his newly learnt Chinese dialect. Syria attained stability in the progress of its Great Leap Forward. The king still lives amid his ruins.

Don't we appreciate the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment by now? The First Amendment needs the Second Amendment to back it up. We "water"(more accurately, bloody) the Tree of Liberty with the blood of our gunshot victims every day so we are free!

The U.S. doesn't shoot Yemeni kids. The U.S. sells weapons in the similar manner as the Iranians whose weapons killed thousands of U.S. troops in Iran's neighbor Iraq did. Let me paraphrase a famous saying, "weapons don't kill people; people kill people." The U.S. just trades weapons as Iran did.

It's important to avoid killing the innocent people including the Yemeni kids caught up in the war in Yemen. One reason that the war there can drag on and on is that innocent people having been killed can trigger more hitherto non-combatants to join the conflict to avenge their casualties, leading to self-defense killings, and to more back and forth escalations. The war in Yemen has certainly lasted a very long time.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

"'Don't kill us,' said one local who survived the recent bombing in Helmand province.'' from: ''Reports of Wedding Party Bombing Indicate US Forces Have Massacred at Least 70 Afghan Civilians in One Week.'' by Andrea Germanos:

Fk knows what U write, mean or think gripes - but your regurgitation of Imperial Propaganda is tiresome.

e tenebris, lux?

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 12 years ago

Thanx, 'Mr. George C. Zeitgeist' ;-)

I saw the very first one and have seen "Addendum" but I haven't seen (neither was I even aware of !) "Moving Forward". I hope that we can all 'move forward' and that The Spirit of The Age, moves towards Peace, Prosperity and 'Potential' for all ...

Pacem In Terris ..

et Fiat Lux .

[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 12 years ago

the money masters guys are sending money to ron paul - i think they are off base but your chomsky post was very good

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 12 years ago

Re. "Money Masters" : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936 = An Explanation of Banks ; Banking ; The Fed. and "How Bankers came to control America" !

Re. "The Secret of Oz" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXndAyTr5kc , a continuation of the themes the film above and an insight "behind the curtain" of 'The Wizard of Oz' !!

The two films above constitute a de facto Course in The Economic History of The U$A, probably better than most taught in US colleges and universities !!!

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 12 years ago

not sure i agree completely - they do present a good history but i am pretty sure they are hard money types - ron paul libertarians - which is hard to square with real economic history. also they struck me a jewish banker conspiracy types - i am not a big fan of that line or thinking - "debt the first 5000 yrs" or "secrets of the temple" give one a better idea of what is happening in the world