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Forum Post: The Federal government should be severely weakened so The States can be more autonomous

Posted 2 years ago on July 18, 2012, 10:43 p.m. EST by delayedgrat (-157)
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That way states could effectively lean more right or left, without the heavy hand of a central authority. If you wanted to live in a state with a structure like Sweden's, say California or New York, you could. If you wanted to live in a state that more closely resembles what the Founding Fathers envisioned, like Texas or Oklahoma, you could.



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[-] 2 points by ZenDog (13354) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

What you really mean is that if the federal gov is weak, it won't be able to regulate food, drugs, financial markets or the auto industry - to name a few.

I hate repelican lies and propaganda almost as much as I hate repelicans . . .

[-] 0 points by delayedgrat (-157) 2 years ago

No what I mean is you can live in a state that more closely mimcs your beliefs. Financial markets I think must be egulated by the Feds but in your listed examples I believe states could easily egulate foods. Drugs could remain a Federal concern. Taxes and entitlments could easily be a State run issue. If you believe in low taxes and no welfare, lkive there. If you believe in high taxes and high welfare live there.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

I think hes got your number. States rights is what the racists in the south used to justify segragation isn't it.

[-] 1 points by Phanya2011 (908) from Tucson, AZ 2 years ago

Why limit it to the states? Why not have the bulk of government take place at the local City or County (if unincorporated) level. The smallest community collects all of the taxes (sales, income, property) from its population and provides all of the local services. That community then pays taxes to the next level -- cities to counties -- for what counties do that cities do not -- law enforcement, fire protection for in between areas, county roads, and in some cases, part responsibility for the US Borders; this doesn't leave much for the state to do, actually, so the counties can then pay a tax to the feds to enforce the broad rules of the road to be followed with respect to safety, interstate matters, minimum standards for education, immigration, and, of course, military, which would not have to be so huge because there wouldn't be enough money left to wage wars. :)

[-] 1 points by geo (2638) from Concord, NC 2 years ago

Sure lets just drop standards across the whole board. South Carolina can have zero environmental regulations to attract all the business it wants, Texas can bring back slavery, New York can invade Canada... why do we need a Union in the first place?

[-] 1 points by Skippy2 (485) 2 years ago

Excellent post. Centralized power excercised by professional politicians is killing this country.

[-] 1 points by geo (2638) from Concord, NC 2 years ago

No, influence by industry over Congress through big money lobbying is killing this country. Money in elections is killing this country.

Centralized power for us is a good thing.... that was decided 150 years ago.

[-] 1 points by Skippy2 (485) 2 years ago

You zeroed in on only the first part,"Centralized power" its the second part that corrupts the first, "professional politicians"

[-] 1 points by geo (2638) from Concord, NC 1 year ago

I agree about the professional politicians aspect.

[-] 0 points by betuadollar (-313) 2 years ago

What if I want to live in British Columbia? Will that be allowed? Mmm... well, not if the all powerful Fed had its way. And that's why people cast their confidence only as far as the state, and even there it's highly questionable. The point is that the Fed can't vote to enslave people (although it is, apparently, trying) as long as the citizen retains his state sovereignty.

[-] 0 points by agkaiser (1320) from Fredericksburg, TX 2 years ago

Sure, then S. Carolina could raise Calhoun and pledge allegiance to the queen. Texas could make numb nuts [Perry] a duke and enslave all Chicanos de jure instead of just de facto. Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Indiana and Wisconsin would have to make do with black servants but the local traditions would be preserved in all cases.

Freed from constraints of the US Constitution, which is what states rights have been about since Calhoun created the perverse idea in defense of slavery, the merely poor and destitute could be made to work for the rich masters for food alone. When one dies the white man's burden is reduced and profits never falter as there's always another waiting to take their place for some cast off garbage to eat.

The conservatives know what's good for the masters. Sure, the base is intellectually challenged but they're sharper than their libertarian dupes. All is well in the new Amerika!

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[-] -1 points by delayedgrat (-157) 2 years ago

175 years ago moving from Georgia to New York was a real hardship. Today it s darn simple. Your post is an epic fail.

[-] 2 points by geo (2638) from Concord, NC 2 years ago

Your thread topic is an epic fail.