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Forum Post: The concern here for those supposed States that want to secede from the Union

Posted 11 years ago on Nov. 14, 2012, 10:40 p.m. EST by Coyote88 (-24)
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Why would OWS care?

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[-] 2 points by Newid (8) 11 years ago

My greatest concern is that they will NOT secede. And continue to play the Fed game of "We are God."

[-] 2 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 11 years ago

there are no states seceding . just some petitions.. why it got reported on so extensively is the real question

[-] 1 points by doitagain (234) from Brooklyn, NY 11 years ago

the future is inevitable

[-] 1 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 11 years ago

a profound statement- what does it have to do with the cost of tea in China

[-] 1 points by doitagain (234) from Brooklyn, NY 11 years ago

future planning, strategic thinking. let's not talk about China, china future is too obvious

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[-] 1 points by ArnolfoAsako (25) from Salem, NJ 11 years ago

So, when will these fake bottomless PWT Topix wannabe's leave the union?

I'm just saying

[-] 1 points by pitbullgirl65 (6) from Ogdensburg, NY 11 years ago

I just wish they would Go Galt and leave. Where to? Somalia. My ex b.f went there back in the 90s as a Marine. No police force, fire protection, post office, regulations, a mess. Their interpeter was (this is terrible TW) was beaten to death by his father for working for the Americans. There was nothing they could do about it. There was no police to call, no laws broken.

[-] 0 points by janus2 (-387) 11 years ago

sounds like chicago

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[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Frankly, I have no concern. GTFO.

But, do not come begging to come back in.

[-] 1 points by Coyote88 (-24) 11 years ago

If those states could truly secede I can Assure you they would not beg to return.

[-] 1 points by mideast (506) 11 years ago

They could not afford to survive without their "blue" subsidy

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Let's hope not.

[-] 1 points by Coyote88 (-24) 11 years ago

Why?

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Because I would be one of those that said, "Nope."

I don't think that people realize how big those changes would be. There would be paperwork that would have to presented to cross borders.

Where does your (general) water come from? I see new treaties there. Would there be a different set of taxes imposed on goods and services? All of the rights that have been fought for would be null and void. State constitutions would have to be revised.

[-] 0 points by ArnolfoAsako (25) from Salem, NJ 11 years ago

Not to mention a new set of laws.
For example, citizenship, new constitution-for whom? The ability to create new regulations of who can live there and who can't. Another form of who will rule and who will serve. Understand, they want things back to the way they were, whatever that might be in their minds which is unrealistic given the diversity of this country.. There is no progressive, or unified thought for humanity in their direction. Be afraid, be very afraid! I'm just saying..

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Let 'em. What's to be afraid of? These people talk because they have taken for granted with what they have. You wanna be a third world country? K.

IMF loans for all.

Muhahahahahahahahaha.

Some folks need to get hit with a Mack truck to know that it hurts.

[-] -2 points by ArnolfoAsako (25) from Salem, NJ 11 years ago

Afraid of the fact that the past is staring everyone in the face and you all don't get it. Look at what I stated. It is the exact foundation on which this country was built. Everyone turned a blind eye to it then and I doubt seriously 200 years or so have changed anything, in reality. Sometimes....it takes more than just a protest to get people to come to their senses.... It seems to me that this country has been raised on Walt Disney and video games....not reality. I'm just saying....

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

The foundation that this country was built?
After three generations of German speaking Kings, we have a King that speaks English and can actually pay attention to what is going on?
After playing war, then turn around and beg to trade?

You are operating from a point of loss. It would actually be a win. You see, all federal funding ceases. No Military because...........you will have to pay them and they won't have access to ours. There goes the schools, there goes what health care they have, and any businesses that move there will have to be taxed and probably more than they are now. So..............yeah. It ain't Disney. Not by a long shot. The sooner they realize this, the better off they will be.

[-] -2 points by ArnolfoAsako (25) from Salem, NJ 11 years ago

First of all...I will not get into any confrontational mumbo jumbo with you on this forum. I have followed you and others for a long time and realize that you, as well as they are always right, (in your own minds-that is) therefore, we have nothing to argue about ever. Yet, let me reassure you that you and no one else knows the limitations that people or groups of people will go to in order to prove a point or maintain their stronghold. Therefore, speculate with all the knowledge that has been afforded you in this world, but just like any other nation or man...this one has such engrained hatred for others that even you wouldn't be aware if someone decided to take your ass out. Therefore, know that "a wise man doubts often, a fool is obstinate and knows everything but his/(her) own IGNORANCE! None of us knows what lies in the heart of any man, woman, or child...look around. The changing of the guard that is going on before your eyes is unimaginable. Also, is Obama a king because you say so, or because it has been written? If so....where? I'm just saying.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Obama is not a king. That's a what I am talking about.

Four years ago, I thought we were headed for a civil war. Now, I have to question why even go there? It's a GTFO scenario.

I've been threatened by mo' betta'.

[-] -2 points by janus2 (-387) 11 years ago

he's not a king but he is a dictator.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

No, he isn't.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

RE - [-] 1 points by GirlFriday (10196) 2 minutes ago

lolwut? ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink


Check it out:

[-] 1 points by janus2 (9) 44 minutes ago

why is that the big names of ows have no interest in the govt reading private e-mail? ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (21345) from Coon Rapids, MN 23 minutes ago

Your not accusing OWS of enabling or approving of voyeurism - R U? ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply edit delete permalink

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (21345) from Coon Rapids, MN 39 minutes ago

Is there such a thing as big names of OWS? ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply edit delete permalink

[-] 1 points by janus2 (9) 34 minutes ago

you're one of them along with vqkag, shooz shadz,girlfriday. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

Hey - good to see you back already - Did you know (?) - according to 2 face - that we - You and I and shadz and shooz - are OWS big names?

Ummmm do we get discounts at places? No no no not that I am looking for such - I'm just curious.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

lolwut?

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[-] -1 points by janus2 (-387) 11 years ago

he bypasses congress, rules by executive ( over 1000) order. he's a dictator.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Oh, dear lawd. I am here for the good bye party.

[+] -4 points by ArnolfoAsako (25) from Salem, NJ 11 years ago

I'm sure. Yet, who really would want to waste their energy on you? Perhaps it is time intellect prevails, while stupidity takes a back seat? Remember ...the limbo of fools keeps them in paradise lost. I have no time to play merry-go-round with you either. So Please...go get your parents, put them on the phone! I'm just saying.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Woooah there, little fucktwit. You is messing with my love, peace and chicken grease disposition.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

LOL - and I tip my 1st Southern comfort shot to you.

[-] 3 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

I'm off to a bush job, and having a beer before confronting the dishes.

Salut!

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Right on. I am giving myself 10 minutes and I am walking into a bar. I got beer chillin' in the icebox.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

Another puzzle piece to the neighborhood solved?


[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (10196) 0 minutes ago

I slammed my beer. I couldn't find the jukebox. I always wanted to see what was in that bar. Mystery solved. Moving on. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Yep.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

Make it a quality shot then - and do em a favor - pick a good tune on the juke before you head out again. {:-])

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

I slammed my beer. I couldn't find the jukebox. I always wanted to see what was in that bar. Mystery solved. Moving on.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

Please be with a friend - I worry. {;-]) specially if I am tipping a few.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

I am only staying for one. I will slam that more than likely because (inevitably) they will have a shitty jukebox.

[-] 0 points by ArnolfoAsako (25) from Salem, NJ 11 years ago

It's Mr..Fucktwit to you sweetie.
Cause you're nasty..

I'm just saying..

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

No, you aren't man enough to be Mr. Fucktwit. You are justa plain ol' little fucktwit. 'Cause you are what you are.

Just sayin'.

[-] 0 points by Saesneg (-166) from Linwood, NJ 11 years ago

Well, picture this: no more federal interference, law to our own liking, no redistribution of dollars from us to them to special interest - it's a beautiful thing. And there's nothing the Fed can do about it.

[-] 3 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 11 years ago

yes no more blue states paying for red state programs I LOVE IT!!!

[-] 0 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 11 years ago

Well, there is one thing the Fed can do about it. Kill you. Think 'Joe Vogler.'

[-] -1 points by Saesneg (-166) from Linwood, NJ 11 years ago

Ehh... I don't that threat will dissuade.

[-] 0 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 11 years ago

Probably not, there are a lot of diehards out there that won't be intimidated. I assume you know the Vogler story? If I don't answer right away it's because I'm about to sign off. Thanks for helping out on my thread the other day, by the way. You had a lot of interesting details I'm going to check out. I'm a fan of history.

[-] 1 points by lawstudent402 (18) 11 years ago

Sounds like a government killing to me

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 11 years ago

That is the rumor. Of course, the 'official' story is, of course, much more typical; a personal grudge or deal gone wrong.

[-] 0 points by Saesneg (-166) from Linwood, NJ 11 years ago

Well... the Left is very actively trying to separate Caucasians from their heritage; they are rewriting wiki articles as we speak to paint patrimony in some lesser light. And while one can argue that the American cultural heritage is contrived and imaginary, it is yet an necessary element of our sociopolitical presence - it's about identity. Some would argue that both past and future do not exist; the reality is that the present has never existed - it is a construct based entirely on both past and future conceptualization; by the time we become conscious of the present it is already past; again it is about identity - we simply cannot exist without some concept, however imaginary, of both past and future.

Nature hates a void... the eastern coast of the United States had been depopulated; some of the greatest intellectuals of the time period gathered their flocks amongst an essentially tribal and primitive people to escape corrupt governance and oppression, over population and disease, an utter lack of resources, in a flight for their lives. Under the very best conditions, it was a fight to get on the boat, a fight to survive the boat, and believe it or not, a fight to get off that boat - colonials were fired on by Native Americans before the very first "Mayflower" even landed. And as we discussed this was under the best of circumstance; many faced much harsher conditions where survival simply was not possible - it was a certain death.

And having fought for the very right to exist, I don't believe we owe anybody an explanation or an apology; what we need is an accurate and truthful history, which, at the present time, does not entirely exist - it has not yet been fully researched, let alone fully published.

[-] 1 points by ArnolfoAsako (25) from Salem, NJ 11 years ago

Ahhhh, I can see it all now....the truth coming out.

Yet, why would anyone want to separate Caucasians from their heritage? How is that even possible? Is not the world yours? What in Gods name would you all be separated from? Does that mean people with mixed blood, or ancestry from slave owners, or mixtures overseas are all doomed to be cut in half?

I'm confused...how did this become a Caucasian issue? Then again, what exactly is a Caucasian...I'm just saying.

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[-] -1 points by Lloegr (-2) 11 years ago

Well, anyway, as I was saying... what they ultimately intend is to separate us from both our dollars in the form of higher taxes and our rights under the Constitution - Obamacare is a perfect example.

Everyone has a heritage... those that descend from slavery have a heritage that includes slavery; they are not cut in half but they are of an intermediate culture as forcibly torn from that world to this. The same can be said of our Hispanics - neither Spanish nor indigenous - they are an intermediate culture.

[-] 0 points by ArnolfoAsako (25) from Salem, NJ 11 years ago

But, what is a Caucasian? How can they be separated? From what? Isn't that reverse segregation? Is that even legal? I'm just saying...

[-] 0 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 11 years ago

You're last paragraph says it all.

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[-] 1 points by Saesneg (-166) from Linwood, NJ 11 years ago

I don't hear "enlightened" here... I don't hear intellect; I hear narrow minded, prejudicial, flighty, and superficial.

But in any case, sounds like a fair trade to me - let's do it.

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[-] 0 points by Saesneg (-166) from Linwood, NJ 11 years ago

haha... have you ever been to NY? That place is an absolute shithole and as I've been saying for years, we should give it to those people who want it.

I'm taking Montana; c ya...

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

Good luck! It's beautiful big sky country. (until the fossil fuel industry destroys it)

[-] 0 points by Shayneh (-482) 11 years ago

One thing for sure though - the vast majority of people with any sense living in those blue states will move out to the red states and leave behind a bunch of sissy ass "metro men" who have polished fingernails, get their hair colored and are wimps when it comes to standing up to fight.

The red states know how to "kick ass" and will do so if necessary.

[-] -1 points by Saesneg (-166) from Linwood, NJ 11 years ago

And that is exactly what has occurred, we are gradually polarizing. I'm not big on the metros, either because what I have encountered in them is the inability to make a decision.

[-] 0 points by Shayneh (-482) 11 years ago

I am sure you have noticed how Obama does that so well - just like Hitler did prior and during ww II.

If you look up Hitlers sayings you will note a similarity between him and Obama when it comes to how they present themselves, how the speak, and the way they think when it comes to polarizing people.

[-] 0 points by Saesneg (-166) from Linwood, NJ 11 years ago

If you follow all of his words, you will realize that Obama is not wholly as he presents himself to be.

[-] 1 points by ArnolfoAsako (25) from Salem, NJ 11 years ago

Neither was George Washington, or Christopher Columbus, or the Paris Peace Treaty. particularly Article 7 that talks about the property that your "caucasian" slave masters owned here in America in the 1700's. So, has anything ever really changed for you all mentally? And what in the hell are you all so angry about?
What are you all really crying about? Your own lack of skin color?

I don't get it......I'm just saying.

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