Forum Post: Spain Confronts Suicides as Newly Homeless Jump From Balconies
Posted 11 years ago on Nov. 12, 2012, 9:05 p.m. EST by GirlFriday
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Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy, who faces a general strike this week amid mounting street protests, pledged measures to stem evictions on Nov. 9 after a woman committed suicide as officials tried to seize her home. Rajoy is trying to respond to outrage over evictions amid a taxpayer-funded bank bailout without inflicting further losses on a financial system crippled by the collapse of a debt-fueled housing boom.
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It's happening here (US) TOO but MSM is omitting it!!
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/05/health/us-suicide-rate-rose-during-recession-study-finds.html?_r=1&
Yes it is.
It's a pet project of mine since the RepubliCon Bush Recession has been just as devastating (possibly more) as the RepubliCon Hoover Depression (which was famous for mass suicides) but this time we had a safety net. Which allowed people to delay suicide by drink, drugs, smoke, and live under a bridge to death. Well before but continuing into current times. Poor Obama, and poor us!
Ya. You can go through the papers and find fathers that took their kids out into the woods and shot them and then themselves back during the depression.
But, it is damned difficult to find the information out today because if of the "lalalala" factor.
Actually, now that you mention it, we do hear about random murder suicides and all these shootings.
Could be it! Could be it!
delay suicide by drink, smoke, and live under a bridge to death.= the obama admin
Poor retarded Zombie, you miss a lot.
We have to understand, this is nothing compared to what's coming. We need a whole new way of thinking and I promise you it won't come from Washington. Our problems have been building up for more than 30 years. Protesting to fools that can't solve our problems, makes us even bigger fools. They can't fix this but you can. First you have to shake the hell out of yourself so you can wake up.
The revolution has started! It's just waiting for you!
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This is not new, unemployment has always increased suicide rate.
Sign this petition to fix it: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/783/697/872/tell-the-1-how-they-can-help-the-economy/
Yeah, still not down with justifying under-employment. Thanks.
And that is why I did not try to use suicide rates as a major component in any argument: people do not think it is important enough to base decisions on.
Still not down with justifying under employment. Although, kudos for stamina.
Kudos - with the fake cheese filling? Sounds like a worthy reward to give someone talking non-sense about under employment. {:-])
Oh, yeah. Nothing better than fake cheese filling!
Nasty stuff - how did those ever sell? Well anyway - again - an appropriate reward for someone who is trying to justify underemployment.
Um........Americans like pie and fake cheese filling?
Some parents wised up(?) and said - gee my kids don't like this junk food - cool I can have something in the house that won't disappear in 30 seconds.
So, they bought Tony's Pizza Squares instead and had them in the house for the 1:30 seconds it takes to nuke 'em. And lived happily ever after.
YEP - OH - until arterial sclerosis killed em.
Yeah.
Did you stock up?
YOU bet - stuff is so fake it never rots. Lasts and lasts and.....ack......
Austerity is actually secondary to the economic looting and economic destruction by the banksters. I don't understand why protests aren't focused on the actions of the bankster gangsters and the need to repudiate debts owed to them.
The evil speculative banks should simply be allowed to go bankrupt. That's called capitalism. The nation states can then rebuild.
Focusing on austerity is a red herring.
It's only a red herring if you aren't being impacted. The people are being forced to pay for something that they didn't do.
I didn't mean it wasn't real. But any demos should focus on the primary crime, outright banksterism.
The existence of for profit FIRE is a threat to our survival. The banksters and investors are the enemy.
I think you are going to have a tough time explaining that to the protesters in Europe. They are protesting because of the outright banksterism and being forced to pay through austerity measures.
I don't think we are really disagreeing. My point is that anger should always be focused on causes, not effects.
Thank you for the post, I'd just like to add that in Spain they can take your house but you still got the debt.
I saw a headline this morning that Spain has put a hold on foreclosures. This story only covers the talks.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-13/spain-postpones-deal-on-foreclosures-as-talks-drag-on.html
the radio said it was for just the worst cases whatever that means...
Whatever it is, it is too little, too late.
there's a post on here calling for a Jubilee, not that it would happen but talking about it is not a bad thing,
I remember hearing Pat Buchanan talking about printing our way out of debt defending Reagan's huge deficits.
Oh definitely. Deficits are never a problem when repubs create them. Only when Dems are in the Oval office, then we can't spend on social programs because the deficit is the most important thing in the world.
I also remember Repubs saying that "we will grow our way out of the deficit".
So that's what I tell the RW extremists who claim the deficit is such an emergency.
You know you really have to watch Republicans, remember Boner saying he was willing to raise revenues? You do know he believes tax cuts raises revenues right? I never thought he was against those, so what did he say that was new really, you got to watch'em.
Oh yeah. They are sounding a little more reasonable but they still want to protect the 1%.
Today I heard the Pres is asking for 2 times as much increased revenue as before so that is good. (I say still not enough but I'll take it)
We'll see.
I have another word for the fiscal cliff, next year's budget, the deficit is about to get smaller...
http://tv.msnbc.com/2012/11/08/the-myth-of-the-fiscal-cliff/
Right! The key as always is to denounce the fear mongering repubs always use as their 'go to' method of getting support for their extreme policies.
Do not submit to the fear.
There was a short article that had a homeless man in Texas that committed suicide recently. If you see it post it or send it to me and I'll post it.
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/state&id=8882064
don't know if this is it
Nope. But, thank you for trying. This guy did commit suicide and was homeless. I am always amazed at how the media likes to hide this. It was up last night but, I was going to have to wait another three hours to post it. Again-thank you.
This is what happens when you have "socialism" it turns the economy into a huge cesspool. Now the citizens of Spain are fighting back and will get rid of the socialism tyrant http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/21/world/europe/spanish-voters-punish-socialists.html?_r=0
This is a result of conservative austerity policy!. If Spain had followed our lead and pursued (progressive) stimulus they would have had a recovery.
BAM!
No this is what happens when you have socialism
You're repeating yourself. I disagree! Do you think if you say something over & over people will believe it? Is that how you came to believe that fairy tale?
Very KarlRovian of you.
LMFAO!
Do the research for your self and you will see that socialism is a nightmare in Europe and it will not work here either, not unless you want to be like Greece
The US is nothing like Greece, or Spain, or Italy or any other tiny poor country. We ARE the #1 economy on the planet. STILL!. We are doing better than the whole planet! Everyone continues to park their money HERE! WE are in recovery while the rest of the planet is in recession.
I do not buy that fear mongering tactic by republicans to scare us into thinking that the deficit/debt is somehow a bigger problem than it is.
Don't be afraid, the deficit/debt will be dealt with, if the republican 1% plutocrat puppets stop the obstruction.
Research done fear mongerer! It's all right wing BS.
Next!
Don't be afraid, the deficit/debt will be dealt with, if the republican 1% plutocrat puppets stop the obstruction./////////////////////////////////////////// The village idiot put us another 6 trillion in the hole during his last four years and it will probably be more of the same or worse during the idiots next four years
Bush left us a $1.4T deficit in the last budget (2009) he submitted. So all the annual deficits (whuch were added to the national devt) during the last 4 years were BUSHES leftover.
Pres Obama has cut $500B from that Bush annual deficit of $1.4T, so that now we have a $900B deficit for the current year. Thats progress
Pres Obama would have cut a lot more from the BUSH $1.4T annual deficit but the traitorous republicans in congress have obstructed every effort to increase employment & strengthen the recovery.
So as I said as soon as traitorous repubs stop obstructing every thing will be fine. No need to cut the safety net.
the current admin idiots put us another 6 + trillion in the hole
Your repeating your self?
Here is the response to your misleading comment that seeks to blame the current admin for the previous admins fiscal irresponsibility.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/spain-confronts-suicides-as-newly-homeless-jump-fr/#comment-875482
Most smart people know that for the last 30 years it has republican admins blowing up the deficit/debt (Reagan/Bush I quadrupled it, Bush II doubled it), & .Dems Admins who have been fiscally responsible (Clinton created 3 years of surplus, Obama has cut $500B).
So do the research.
slick willie started the mess, Democrat
Clinton created 3 years of surpluses that Bush II turned into a $1.4T deficit, that we are still living with.
and did as much bad as good by repealing GS.
Clinton made a profound mistake signing that weakening of regulaions (Glass Steagal)
He should be roundly denounced. We must also roundly denounce all conservative policies that weaken regulations.
We need re-instatement of Glass Steagal, other strong regulations, & progressive solutions to these financial problems created by pro 1% conservative policy.
All the while the dummycrats controlled the house under the Bush admin
This is not a Republican support forum. If you are looking for such a forum you can find it by clicking here. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
I am just trying to find out where y'all are coming from. Some of y'all are way out there
Any politician who supports the pro 1% conservative policies that have destroyed our economy must be called out and denounced!
U mean Boner and ilk? For refusing to tax the wealthy?
They, like others, are upset at the austerity measures that are being imposed.
This is what happens when the banks run shit and you are hooked up to the Euro.