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Forum Post: Should DHS be able to make law instead of just enforcing it?

Posted 2 years ago on Sept. 27, 2012, 4:37 p.m. EST by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL
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If you refuse an order by a law enforcement officer or law enforcement office, you are committing a criminal act. Most protesters are now aware just how true this is. TechJunkie thinks that DHS should be allowed to create regulations for the internet instead of the FCC who is typically the office in charge of regulating communication.

What say you?

Should DHS get to bypass our democracy and create internet regulation that amounts to law because non-compliance is a criminal act?

Is this something that should be handled by the FCC in accordance with laws passed by congress?

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[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4843) 2 years ago

DHS is something that should not exist.

[-] 3 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

I agree ^

[-] 3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

No, DHS should not. So that we can have secret/secret laws?

[-] 2 points by flip (7101) 2 years ago

you seem to have a lot of fans!

[-] 2 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

Thx. I just see it as a breach between the separation of powers and potential for abuse. Obviously some people are ok with it but I have yet to see an argument that leads me to their side.

[-] 3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

That whole Gilmore v Gonzalez thing is already mind blowing.

[-] 3 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

Holy shit batman! I had no idea. Secret Laws? I'm going to need a few days to even absorb that. Thx for the heads up.

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

papers please

.....PAPERS NOW!

[-] 2 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

I can't begin to describe how fucked up it is that the US has secret laws. You can only rationalize and forgive so much of the similarities to Hitler and Stalin. I know people over use those names but if the shoe fits...

[-] 3 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

they also redefine words in secret to get around other laws. Like the 4th amendment.

That's how the NSA gets around spying on everyone's electronic messages. A computer system does it. It's not the same as a person listening to it. Pass enough filters... probable cause. ... or something.

[-] 3 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

Don't forget the use of private companies by the pentagon to bypass laws that prevent the from working domestically.

[-] 3 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

and private companies don't have to abide by the FOIA either. That's why they love organizations like Black Water.

[-] 2 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

and TrapWire

[-] 0 points by alva (-442) 2 years ago

the only body empowered by the constitution to make law is the US congress. the epa makes" laws " all the time, they call them regulations.

[-] 0 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

Good point. Maybe if they(congress) were forced to spend time doing their jobs, like passing laws for regulations instead of passing it off to agencies, they would have less time on their hands to think up ways to fuck the citizenry.

[-] 0 points by alva (-442) 2 years ago

the congress does do their job. the epa goes around congress as does the president.

[-] 2 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

...and the topic broadens. This really is a big issue. You make a good point that these activities need to be ended. Maybe a law that says laws are not valid unless passed directly by congress.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

If you think actions of the Admin or the Pres is illegal, sue them.

I think you are mistaken. They are perfectly within their power. And anything they can do to cut pollution by the electric generation plants is welcome.

That would be the govt working for the people!

Are you concerned about the energy corps?

[-] -1 points by CitizenofAmerika (-71) 2 years ago

Sure, why not? The magic negro is in charge and cares about each and everyone of us. What could go wrong?

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

"magic negro"? That is offensive.

Are you a racist?

[-] -2 points by CitizenofAmerika (-71) 2 years ago

No. That's what quite a few black journalists have called him in the past. And frankly, I don't care if a Marxist rectum like you is offended. Go away.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

"marxist rectum"? lol. I guess you just enjoy putting people down. You don't come here for any positive reason. Just useless, mean spirited ignorance. No substance.

Unimpressed.

[-] -1 points by hazencage (58) 2 years ago

it depends on what the law is.

[-] 2 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

So law enforcement gets to create law in your eyes. Noted.