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Forum Post: Saving Reality One Day At A Time

Posted 1 year ago on Sept. 5, 2012, 4:12 a.m. EST by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY
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[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

Wow. This is a surprise. While I've been away this spoof of a post gets 43 comments. Posts about OWS activities get next to zilch.

[-] -1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 1 year ago

The big bang is shit. The universe is not expanding from a central point for one.

Secondly, the speed of light is not a constant because the speed of time is not a constant due to time dilation so the red/blue shift is unreliable. DU!

Scientists are dumb.

[-] 0 points by poof (-18) 1 year ago

You have a PHD in physics? Is that how you came about to refute the most widely approved theories?

Scientists are dumb.

What does such a grandiose yet generalized statement even mean? People that use the scientific method are dumb? So, who are smart, those that believe in magic?

[-] 0 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 1 year ago

Time dilation = Fact

Speed is measured by distance/time. If time changes, so does the speed even if velocity has not changed.

it's pretty straight forward.

[-] 0 points by poof (-18) 1 year ago

Time only dilates if the speed changes. All objects traveling at the speed of light will be affected by exactly the same time dilation. In other words, time dilation is in direct relation with speed.

It's clear you have a very bad understanding of this formula.

[-] 0 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 1 year ago

Train is moving at 3,000,000 MPH. Now what is the speed of light with the object in motion as the source? What is the speed of light from that source when viewed from a static location? They cannot be the same, can they?

Thus time dilation. Thus the speed of light varies.

[-] 2 points by shooz (26665) 1 year ago

The speed of light is still constant. It doesn't change, at least from our corner of the universe.

http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/einsteinlight/jw/module3_weird_logic.htm

Time dilates to accommodate that constant.

[-] 0 points by poof (-18) 1 year ago

Time dilates to accommodate that constant.

Exactly what I tried to explain to Richard! I think he never took a physic's class! Ah! I still remember taking advanced physics and going over Einstein's Theory during one whole semester. Hard, but fun!

[-] 2 points by shooz (26665) 1 year ago

They have on the other hand, found ways to slow it down, but it has never moved faster.

http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/1999/02.18/light.html

Now that's weird science.....................:).

[-] 1 points by shooz (26665) 1 year ago

That's not been proven. They've been having problems repeating the observation.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 1 year ago

They will. We had fighters breaking the sound barrier in the Korean war before it was done intentionally. Give them time.

[-] 1 points by shooz (26665) 1 year ago

Here's the real deal.

http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2011/PR19.11E.html

In the interest of partisan politics/science. Reagan denied the US a sister accelerator.

Ain't that boogie a mess?

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 1 year ago

Well, there was real concern over the ability of the things to create black holes. There are still ongoing legal battles from people with this fear trying to shut them down. Also, not to be partisan, but the right has never been a crowd of intellectuals. Demographically speaking.

[-] 2 points by shooz (26665) 1 year ago

Reagan was anti science and didn't want to spend the money for such things, when giving it to his corporate buds was way more conducive to getting re-elected.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 1 year ago

Good call

[-] 1 points by shooz (26665) 1 year ago

I hope you don't mean a good call on Reagan's part.

That decision has a direct correlation to why we are falling behind in science and particle psychics in particular.

[-] 2 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 1 year ago

No no, good call on your summery of motives behind the defunding.

[-] 0 points by poof (-18) 1 year ago

The idea of Variable Speed of Light appears in ad hoc scientific theories which are not widely accepted. At this time, the General Theory of Relativity is widely regarded as the best theory and the speed of light is constant. If you base yourself on ad hoc theories, you'll find all kinds of funky stuff that's not necessarily true. Scientific theories are made before observations, it's best to regard those like the General Theory of Relativity as being more "correct" since they are backed up by A LOT of observational evidence.

As for your second link, breaking the Speed of Light has nothing to do with the Speed of Light being a constant. Some recent experiments show neutrinos going possibly faster than light. This is about the speed of something else, not photons! You're mixing two entirely different things.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 1 year ago

The speed of light constant says you cannot go faster than the speed of light. That has now been disproved, rather obviously I might add. This does not change relativity. What it will change is some of the mystery in quantum physics. Relativity is sound. They way people less intelligent than Einstein apply it, is not so sound. Think about it. Scientists are working with concepts they barely grasp (concepts, not math) and are trying to advance science with that relationship to the ideas behind the math. Einstein has always been spot on, never doubt that.

[-] 0 points by poof (-18) 1 year ago

The speed of light constant says you cannot go faster than the speed of light.

No, those are two different things.

You need to review your physics. Even if I wasn't knowledgeable in physics your claims would be dubious because you talk with utmost certainly. Scientists never claims to know the absolute truth.

Einstein has always been spot on, never doubt that.

No, he was a human like others. He made a lot of mistakes, like wasting a huge part of his life with his dubious Cosmology Constant.


I'm done discussing this with you Richard. You obviously have too much to learn, and you can simply read the Internet if you want to learn more.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (17667) 1 year ago

ECHO ; ECho ; Echo ; echo - she (Echo) fell in love with Narcissus, if you recall your Greek Legends !!!

Yours seems a familiar voice !! Or am I being "Off Topic" here too ?!

temet nosce ...

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 1 year ago

The constant is what says if you are moving at 4,000,000 MPH, than the speed of light for you is still 299,792,458 m/s No matter how fast you go, that will still be the speed of light. (Based on motion in a vacuum to eliminate density variations)

That is the constant. Thus, you cannot go faster than the speed of light.

[-] 0 points by poof (-18) 1 year ago

Hawking Radiation can go faster than the speed of light, as can Cerenkov radiation.

You should discuss these issues in a physics forum for beginners.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 1 year ago

Hawking has 0 working experiments. Thats why he is called theoretical physicist. He has had to recant his work at least once that I know of, after multiple publications.

[-] 1 points by poof (-18) 1 year ago

Einstein was also a theoretical physicists and some of his work concerning the Cosmological Constant was also recanted. Does that mean that all his work is bogus and that we should throw it out?

Hint: Hawkins is not the only one to have worked on Hawking Radiation and it is a widely accepted solid theory with some observational evidence.


Dude, I'm done. Go discuss this on a physics forum for beginners.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 1 year ago

Touché

[-] 0 points by poof (-18) 1 year ago

Not only can they be the same, they are the same! That's what makes understanding the Theory of Relativity so difficult!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelson–Morley_experiment

[-] 0 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 1 year ago

lol. Go tell your teacher that the speed of light on a moving object and the speed of light from a static location are the same. Be sure to look at his face while you tell him that.

[-] 0 points by poof (-18) 1 year ago

Read the link I posted above. What are you talking about is exactly what confounded scientists for a long time, and the fact that Albert Einstein figured out how it's possible is one of the biggest achievements in modern scientific history.

I'm not going to debate this with you. It's stupid. The Speed of Light is a constant and there are tons of scientific papers, essays, and writings that explain why. No need to debate it here.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 1 year ago

Read the links I just posted.

PS, Einstein is the only Hero I've ever had, in contrast to superman for most kids.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

You sound like a tea party anti science, anti stem cell, anti evolution, anti big bang, rape confused republican.

Yes?

[-] -1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 1 year ago

Disprove my scientific assertion.

Time dilation = Fact

Speed is measured by distance/time. If time changes, so does the speed even if velocity has not changed.

You can't even comprehend this shit. Bump off.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Is that a yes?

Are you rape confused like your compatriots Akin and Wilke? Do you believe in the magic uterus? LMFAO!

"scientists are dumb"? huh? yeah THAT's intelligent. You're not kiddin anyone with you're claims of being intelligent.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20488) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

wtf?

  • the uterus is magic.

Within its confines lies the future of humanity

Is this not magic?

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I suppose. but it cannot discern the difference of rape and non rape sperm as Akin, & Wilke claim.

But I know you know that. It is the self professed "intelligencia" RichK who supports junk science.

Peace

They are comin down hard on me today.!

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20488) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

ah fuck'em

Like as not they are all frauds anyway.

just fuckem

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Yeah I think the convention has gotten them riled up.

Bastards

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20488) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

conservative ideology, based on greed, killed, over one million people, by starvation, and not that long ago.

Today, they are weak.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

It is said this may be the last time conservatives have a voting demographic that can win a presidential election.

Repub Sen L. Graham said "we are not creating enough angry white men" to compete in future elections.

We can only hope.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20488) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago
  • we are not creating enough amgry white men

that they have even tried such creative endeavor is more than sufficient to harden my face against any calamity that befalls such fools

[-] 0 points by poof (-18) 1 year ago

Speed is measured by distance/time. If time changes, so does the speed even if velocity has not changed.

Time only dilates when speed changes.

[-] 0 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 1 year ago

Now your getting it. I like that you edited after realizing your error.

[-] 0 points by poof (-18) 1 year ago

Ya, I realized my error, and I hope you realize yours. The problem with your understanding is that you think time can dilate however which way it wants, but, in fact, its dilates in a extremely tight relationship with speed making a constant out of the speed of light.