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Forum Post: Reverend Wright's Sin- telling the truth "Two different worlds"

Posted 1 year ago on Oct. 30, 2012, 6:37 p.m. EST by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY
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[-] 2 points by stevebol (1270) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

People who don't support the death penalty understand what took place between Pilate and Jesus.

[-] 1 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 1 year ago

That escapes me but in general I oppose the death penalty - definitely I oppose it in a country like ours where justice is so skewed towards protecting some nd persecuting others.

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1270) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

The Sanhedrin in Judea at the time could sentence someone to death but could not carry out the sentence. They had an agreement with the Romans that the Romans had to carry it out. The DP is just plain wrong.

[-] 1 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 1 year ago

God, this subject is the first rung on the ladder of mental slavery.

I wonder how long it took Hurricane Sandy to decide who and what areas to discriminate against?

What BS this nation is wrapped around! When is the country going to move forward?

[-] 0 points by stevebol (1270) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

I'm dissapointed there isn't more discussion about sandy right now. Are coastal cities in trouble due to climate shift? Between katrina and sandy you have to wonder.

[-] -1 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 1 year ago

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (19849) from Coon Rapids, MN 0 minutes ago

Comedy ensues:

DKAtoday said 0 minutes ago at Oct. 31, 2012, 3:21 p.m. EST (delete)

BTW - this message from you is so funny - I must share with the others.

DKAtoday said 0 minutes ago at Oct. 31, 2012, 3:20 p.m. EST (delete)

There is only one race - Humanity. You are not ready to be let loose into society. You and your racist friend should go somewhere really really isolated - and stay there.

Neuwurldodr said 1 minute ago at Oct. 31, 2012, 3:17 p.m. EST (delete)

You my friend are truly an embarrassment to your race. You know the truth and you actually try to pretend differently?

In the future, understand, that I will no longer reply to you, your racist tirades or your inability to confirm your own existence here.. See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya....'IT IS FINISHED' ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink

See how easily manipulated you are my friend?

Like a clown, you are not happy unless you are sharing your antics with the public... You know what shows in all your postings.

You need confirmation of your self worth....

OK.....here goes....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIFVte2l7d0

Love Ya! LOL

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

What in the Hell makes you stink - um think - that I would access a link from you? Get some professional help - Hater.

[-] -1 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 1 year ago

You will.....eventually, your stupidity and animal nature dictates it.....

Have fun!

Professional help....I'm sure you have a list available...right?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

So much for you not responding to my comments anymore - see how hate has addled your brain? You have health ins(?) then you have a directory already - Don't have health ins(?) wander into an emergency room.

[-] 1 points by shooz (26680) 1 year ago

Damn!

Don't you hate when that happens?

Well, it is Halloween. The ghouls are active....................:)

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

It really sucks when you get haters spewing their crap. But you Sir Are Correct Sir it is the day of the Halloween celebration - and monsters are sure to be out and about. {:-])

[-] 2 points by shooz (26680) 1 year ago

Just refer them here, and see how they react.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-not-about-race/

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

I really hate giving them any attention at all - but I will have a look see - the title is intriguing and I suspect true - as haters of this forum and of people building a better world for all - would have no problem using racism as an instrument to divide the people.

[-] -2 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 1 year ago

And?

What else is new in this ole wonderful land of allegedly Oz "whiteness".

Do you all actually believe that those who frequent this forum live in some dreamland believing that those of the 99% are actually lovers of all minorities or other races? You all show through your liberalistic ideologies that the players might change in the future, but their antics against others won't. So, U all believe that other races, nationalities, religious groups, should cower down (still) while you continue to put your foot on their necks or give affirmation and credence to what is being done to one another in the name of alleged racial, religious differences? The only differences that truly exist are those of melanin (do your research)....which to matters of degrees affects the human body in many ways...mentally, physically, etc. What universe is this again.. Wake up people of all races, nationalities and creeds.

Discrimination? Are those of you angry at what nature has bestowed upon you? Why?.

Only mankind takes his frustrations out on his own!

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[-] 1 points by shooz (26680) 1 year ago

Meaning what?

[-] -2 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 1 year ago

Somewhat like the night riders of the first Klan membership.

Anyone aware of what "trick or treat" is really about or how it got its inception in the south, since every right wing conservative on here knows so damn much?

Lets get real!!

The fearful deny. lie, point the finger and take it off into clown land!

What are you "alleged" white folks hiding, or should I say hiding from?

[-] -1 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 1 year ago

You are so.o.o.oo. funny for an alleged white man....how can I not respond when you require so much of my attention? You are addicted to me!

LOL

[-] -1 points by Futurevision1 (-75) 1 year ago

So you support black nationalist ideology?

[-] 2 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

I support white people learning about the full history of the USA, absorbing what it means and doing something positive about it.

[-] 1 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 1 year ago

You got here first? thanks you said it.

[-] -2 points by Brython (-146) 1 year ago

While we're at it we should also educate black people as to the true history also, don'tcha think?

[-] -2 points by Futurevision1 (-75) 1 year ago

That is not answering the question. Wright is a preacher of black nationalism. Dou you agree with it.

[-] -1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

I think African American people need their own organizations unless there are other people willing to take some leadership from them, as especially whites have a very difficult time in coming to grips with the actual situation and their own roles in that situation. BTW there is a white Catholic Priest who often preaches at Wright's church. In this area he is exemplary for whites like you to look at.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiSutcBArDU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBKeCIDGvwY&feature=endscreen&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA0vEys1oxY&feature=endscreen&NR=1

[-] 0 points by TheRazor (-329) 1 year ago

African Americans need their own organizations? Hmmmmmm?

They had that. It was called segregation. If I am not mistaken, everyone thought that was bad. You know, its uncanny. If you stand in one place long enough, old ideas re appear as new.

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

No, segregation was imposed and it had nothing to do with African Americans practicing self determination - deciding as individuals and as a group whether or not they have hope in being connected with white Americans and with those decisions taking appropriate steps.

[-] -1 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 1 year ago

Keep it going frogmanofborneo... These posters are so adamant about not facing the truth or reality about this country and its ideologies...without individuals with higher intellect, could we imagine the demise of the human race? They would love to continue to believe that all people of color actually wanted this monstrosity of racial hatred and prejudice in this country and around the world. Nowhere can people live in peace anymore! In addition, when people of color "alleged blacks" were self sufficient here in America, governed themselves and created their own peaceful way of existence, farming, social interaction, trade...the actions of the foreigners who came from Europe was to annihilate, destroy and subjugate because of their own jealousy, greed and lack of economic power. I.e.....the civil war, black wall street, and lynchings in the south!

[-] -1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

Thanks but as far as Trevor and DKA are concerned they are hopeless for now. Certainly logic and facts are not going to sway them at this time. It gets very tiresome and repetitive, though every time they call me a racist or a supremacist I feel I am one step closer to going to heaven when I die.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Your hate is just the same as the KKK's - so very very very wrong.

[-] -1 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 1 year ago

Heaven on earth is the reality of the day since you can see beyond the mystical veil of lies perpetrated by the hateful, the greedy and the heartless.

Individuals such as yourself, use universal logic and not all want to be that comfortable with themselves, I am sure...

Hey, keep on trucking...those who understand will and those who don't are truly not our problem...

Ignorance, I have found, comes in all colors, religions, shapes and sizes.. ie... \ /

[-] 1 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 1 year ago

Trying to attack my computer, you piece of garbage, it didn't work

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1270) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

Lol. I almost clicked on that. What happened?

[-] 1 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 1 year ago

I got a warning from my anti-virus not to go there.

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[-] 0 points by marvelpym (-184) 1 year ago

It's just a youtube video, not a mormon conspiracy

[-] 0 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

Won't be clicking on any of your links, thank you very much.

[-] 0 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

Sorry, if ShubeL won't click it I won't either. You are one nasty piece of work.

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[-] -1 points by Futurevision1 (-75) 1 year ago

Blacks have many organizations to promote their own interests. And yes I know about that white priest. Your point?

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

Wright is not a hater. He tells truth. He does not hate white people. The truth he tells is difficult for many white people to accept, but whose problem is that?

"Black Nationalism" means whatever the person who reads those words wants it to mean. African American people in this country do constitute a nationality or ethnic group with their own particular interests which they have every right to defend and advance.

[-] -1 points by Futurevision1 (-75) 1 year ago

As do whites?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

BTW - I am wondering. Did you know that when the Bible speaks of man being created in God's image - that it was not talking about physical appearance?

[-] -1 points by Futurevision1 (-75) 1 year ago

And you are an interpreter of the christian/Muslim/Hebrew scriptures that knows absolutely what "god" meant....how?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Do I know it all? NO. Have I spent over 50 years seeking truth? Yes. The aspect of man in our relationship to God is one of the most obvious.

[-] -1 points by Futurevision1 (-75) 1 year ago

There are many people that would undoubtedly disagree with your revelationn of what is "obvious". And franklyim not interested in your opinions on god nor do they apply to the original posts.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Fine and dandy - you asked - I answered. Besides froggy brought it up to begin with not I.

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

Funny- what interests do whites have as a group that other groups don't share?

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

I guess you need to ask yourself that question - if you need to have a separatist group.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Not gonna access your link - why don't you make a post and place the information there. I am not in the least arrogant - that would be "YOU" - I am trying to point out that "WE" are "ALL" equal. You on the other hand push divisiveness.

[-] 0 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

fair enough.

PEOPLE OF COLOR WORKING GROUP The role of the POC working group at OWS to bring in/provide a supportive and empowering space for people of color and to bring people of color and a racial justice lens to the leadership of this movement. In general the POC WG at OWS does these two things: 1. bring in and provide a supportive and empowering space for people of color in the movement; and 2. bring people of color and a racial justice lens to the leadership of this movement.

The POC WG has consensed to also function as a People of Color Caucus wherein, thrugh participation in POC WG subcommittees, members will in turn participative in the working groups of the broader OWS movement. Each subcommittee of the POC WG corresponds to a larger OWS working group and the members of each subcommittee attend meetings for and participate in the corresponding OWS working group. By doing so we bring our voices to the forefront of the movement.

Each subcommittee currently has a rotating point person who is responsible for bringing together the subcommittee, reporting back at meetings, and bottom lining communication within the subcommittee and between subcommittees. The point person is required to rotate every month, ensuring collective leadership, increased participation and transparency.

Read our call out to people of color here: http://pococcupywallstreet.tumblr.com/post/11049895469/call-out-to-people-of-color-from-the-ows-poc-working

Tags: working group design info occupiers schedules

OccupyHouston is a leaderless group. However, issues of People of Color has been and are being marginalized by the concerns of other participants. People of Color have been asked to go back to our respective communities and request from those communities more participation from Asian, African American, Latino, Native American and Hispanic people. We can not, however, do this as long as we feel that we are being marginalized by others. That would be disingenuous and disrespectful to the legacies all of our communities. The People of Color Caucus will encourage open dialogue and sincere debate to express our concerns democratically. We reserve the right as did other Groups to meet privately if we are concerned about any further marginalization. As People of Color, we refuse to be relegated or confined to the lower or outer limits of OccupyHouston.

http://occupyhouston.org/forum…..statement/

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

White is a color - you seem bent on separatism.

[-] -2 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 1 year ago

No there is no such person as white unless they are albino, or lacking melanin, or lacking some supportive healthy chromosome or DNA in their bloodline. People cannot be black or white...

If you were to hold up your arm to this screen...ask yourselves....do you match? If a person held a piece of coal on the back of their hand....do they match.

You are so ignorant that you sound like a clown from the circus of horrors. Pale skin circus of propagandist horrors...that is... . Once again....why are you so.o.o.o.o unhappy?

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Comedy ensues:

DKAtoday said 0 minutes ago at Oct. 31, 2012, 3:21 p.m. EST (delete)

BTW - this message from you is so funny - I must share with the others.


DKAtoday said 0 minutes ago at Oct. 31, 2012, 3:20 p.m. EST (delete)

There is only one race - Humanity. You are not ready to be let loose into society. You and your racist friend should go somewhere really really isolated - and stay there.


Neuwurldodr said 1 minute ago at Oct. 31, 2012, 3:17 p.m. EST (delete)

You my friend are truly an embarrassment to your race. You know the truth and you actually try to pretend differently?

In the future, understand, that I will no longer reply to you, your racist tirades or your inability to confirm your own existence here.. See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya....'IT IS FINISHED'

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

And yet you use the terminology. Huh - how screwed up is your stinking - um thinking? Are you and your racist com-padre gonna be hanging around for long? I mean you two are pretty depressing to have hanging around.

[-] -2 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

Who was that boxer famous for saying "no mas?" That's me. We have said enough to each other. I find you to be one hopeless whiteboy but I wish you well in life. Now, please, begone.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Your unreasoning out of control hatred/racism is apparent to all but you.

[-] 0 points by stevebol (1270) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

I'm drawing a blank here. I know, getting a bunch of automatic weapons and light artillary and going off on a car in the woods somewhere. Do other people do that?

[-] -1 points by Futurevision1 (-75) 1 year ago

The same interests that blacks would have for their own group.

[-] 0 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

Not really. Blacks are owed something by society. I know this is impossible for you to absorb. The fact is whites owe to blacks.

[-] -1 points by Futurevision1 (-75) 1 year ago

Whites owe blacks nothing. I owe them nothing. My children owe them nothing.

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[-] -1 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 1 year ago

My dearest fromanofborneo.....you are so rational and flexible, yet, I must speak for myself and others who want the world to understand...

The only thing alleged "white" people owe any person of color, or any another nationality, or religion is that they need to understand that the oppression that was instituted by their forefathers was only due to the fact that they (pale skin nations of Europe) had nothing when they migrated and saw great civilizations that they had not created, and in reality will still have nothing when they leave, this earth and otherwise. I personally want them to make a choice, live with us in peace and equality, or take your asses back to Europe and the Caucus mountains and try to be happy. Simple as that.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

U are a dick head - have no other people of color ever abused people of their own color and of other color? Who was Eddi Amin? Who was Pol Pot? Who was Mao? Who was Hirohito?

Go away your odor is atrocious.

[-] -1 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 1 year ago

Who was your mammy is really the question of the day 99% negro bloodline!

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Ultimately - I came from the same place as you - God - the same place everyone came from. Though apparently you do not like that thought - your hatred burns bright.


[-] 1 points by Neuwurldodr (873) 1 minute ago

I know my DNA and my 'ANCIENT HERITAGE'....

Where did you come from? Them or Mine?

You are most unhappy with yourself are you not? Besides....Negro is the name of a river in West Africa, named by Moors, because it contains "black" water... There is also a Niger (black river) in Mississippi, where original inhabitants here (Ben Franklin tells you who they were) had their civilizations before your pale skin fathers arrived and amalgamated with the inhabitants... Is this the part of your lives you all are afraid to face? If you were of the pure blood Europeans that maintained that bloodline... You my friend would have either a bloodline of leprosy, have the bleeding disease (hemophilia from interbreeding), or albinism, or would be missing the Y chromosome. So...where do you come from my friend? Are you that adamant about your alleged superiority around the world and here? You need to learn more about yourself and your people so that you can stop sounding ignorant! LOL.... ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

99% negro bloodline! Um you or me?

[-] -1 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 1 year ago

I know my DNA and my 'ANCIENT HERITAGE'....

Where did you come from? Them or Mine?

You are most unhappy with yourself are you not? Besides....Negro is the name of a river in West Africa, named by Moors, because it contains "black" water... There is also a Niger (black river) in Mississippi, where original inhabitants here (Ben Franklin tells you who they were) had their civilizations before your pale skin fathers arrived and amalgamated with the inhabitants... Is this the part of your lives you all are afraid to face? If you were of the pure blood Europeans that maintained that bloodline... You my friend would have either a bloodline of leprosy, have the bleeding disease (hemophilia from interbreeding), or albinism, or would be missing the Y chromosome. So...where do you come from my friend? Are you that adamant about your alleged superiority around the world and here? You need to learn more about yourself and your people so that you can stop sounding ignorant! LOL....

[-] -2 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

I would not deny or obstruct your right to express yourself, which I cannot do anyhow. IMHO there is a material debt. Let me tell you a story about a poor struggling immigrant family from Europe to illustrate that:

My grandfather, may he rest in peace came to this country from Europe about a hundred years ago, leaving his wife and four children behind. He worked like an animal in a sweatshop and slept on the factory floor so he could save what would have been the rent money to buy passage for his family to get here. In doing so they escaped the ravages and horrors of the First World War. I still find the story touching but there is some more to it - at the time my grandfather got that job there were black men who knew that it wouldn't even make sense to even apply there for a job. It was hard work but it was considered to be "white man's work." When my father went to school he was taught by teachers who appreciated his humanity and respected him and his family and so he could more easily advance. This was not and still is not the experience of many many black children in our schools. Therefore, somehow, I owe due to "unfair advantage."

Now we have white people from the American West whose great grandparents were "given" land by Abraham Lincoln, and whose communities thrived because Lincoln also "gave" land to the railroads for free so they could connect the small communities of white settlers and help them to prosper. Many of the grandchildren of these welfare recipients, sitting still on this given land- as that is what they were- now preach to black people who had no shot at this free land- "self reliance." What a crock!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

IMHO? Really??? There is nothing humble about you!

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[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

See? U have no idea who I am - but you label me from your hate. No wonder you are the frogman you need the air supply with your head so firmly jammed up your (x).

[-] -1 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 1 year ago

I think that is exactly how he got so confused and miserable.... LOL

[-] -1 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 1 year ago

I understand......I appreciate hearing that....

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Ummm - Nice - but you should really be replying to yourself when you make a statement while looking in the mirror.


[-] 1 points by Neuwurldodr (873) 3 minutes ago

So was your daddy and your daddy's daddy fool! How do you think you got to be so miserable? ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

As you are obviously a member of the same hate group.

[-] -1 points by Neuwurldodr (744) 1 year ago

So was your daddy and your daddy's daddy fool! How do you think you got to be so miserable?

[-] 0 points by stevebol (1270) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

Maybe when we become a minority, which can't happen soon enough in my book.

[-] -2 points by Futurevision1 (-75) 1 year ago

Why? Why do you hate whites?

[-] 0 points by stevebol (1270) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

Am I one of those people who hates their own people? No. I just don't understand white people half the time. Maybe most of the time. I could give many examples of how I'm stupified by white culture but it would be a waste of time.

[-] -1 points by Futurevision1 (-75) 1 year ago

I see. What is the environment that you live and work in? Just curious.

[-] 0 points by stevebol (1270) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

I live in the middle of north Milwaukee. Living in a area that's mostly AA doesn't have much to do with my attitude. I've lived in about 7 states, everything from projects to middle-class suburbia later on in my high school years. I think white people should do what everyone else does, get together with a group of your people, then ask, "WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH US!!?? Everyone does this except white people.

[-] 0 points by Futurevision1 (-75) 1 year ago

And there you are wrong. Far more whites ask what is wrong with us than you think. But they may not come to the same solutions as you do. And as for me: I've gone to schools that were majority black students. For most of my life I've worked around large black populations.

[-] -1 points by stevebol (1270) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

I guess the solutions you came up with are over my head. That's OK.

[-] -1 points by stevebol (1270) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

So, what's the matter with white folks?

[-] -1 points by Futurevision1 (-75) 1 year ago

Depends on what you think they are concerned with, doesn't it?

[-] -2 points by Brython (-146) 1 year ago

I think Wright's a very intelligent and charismatic guy, and probably an excellent preacher. But he's definitely no friend of the white man is he?

[-] 0 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 1 year ago

Reverend Wright has white friends. I'm "white" myself and I dig the guy. He is no friend of the typical white mentality and the typical white refusal to come to grips with the history of their white power, what it is, how they got it and what they actually do with it.

[-] -1 points by Brython (-146) 1 year ago

While simultaneously blacks need to come to grips with the fact that African monarchs valued people as wealth and sold them to the Muslims, to the Spanish, Portuguese, Germans, Swedes, others - and eventually even the English. They need to come to grips with the fact that it was typically black seamen who worked aboard these slavers. And they need to come to grips with that fact that no white man living in America today has had anything at all to do with African slavery, and few had anything to do with it then.

[-] 1 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 1 year ago

Off topic. Ancient African history.