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Posted 1 year ago on May 28, 2012, 5:50 p.m. EST by bensdad (8977)
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[-] 0 points by stevebol (1266) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

Wisconsin is full of union friendly republicans. Walker just isn't one of them so a lot of people guessed wrong. Live and learn.

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[-] 0 points by JusticeForTrayvon (34) 1 year ago

Why should the politicians have to work, anyway? Let's up their salaries again!

[-] 0 points by jimmycrackerson (940) from Blackfoot, ID 1 year ago

They get to vote for their own raises...

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

no Wisconsin government union employees got to vote for their own raise of course I could be wrong or you could be lying
go ahead - make my day
post the link to a news source that you got this lie from

[-] 0 points by jimmycrackerson (940) from Blackfoot, ID 1 year ago

http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/agencies/a/raise4congress.htm

It's not 'news' because your mainstream media wouldn't cover something like this.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

your link has nothing to do with my question
"my" mainstream media wouldn't cover something like bigfoot eating a senator
or an invasion from Venus or anything else concoted under your straight jacket

[-] 0 points by jimmycrackerson (940) from Blackfoot, ID 1 year ago

Then could you rephrase your question so I might have a clue as to what you're talking about?

[-] 3 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

-] 1 points by stevebol (134) 1 day ago

Wisconsin is full of union friendly republicans. Walker just isn't one of them so a lot of people guessed wrong. Live and learn. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink [-] 1 points by JusticeForTrayvon (38) 1 day ago

Why should the politicians have to work, anyway? Let's up their salaries again! ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink [-] 0 points by jimmycrackerson (830) from Burley, ID 1 day ago

They get to vote for their own raises... ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink


I think I owe you an apology- I thought you were talking about Wisconsin unions not politicians

[-] 1 points by jimmycrackerson (940) from Blackfoot, ID 1 year ago

It's all good.

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

I want $50 an hour

[-] 1 points by jimmycrackerson (940) from Blackfoot, ID 1 year ago

What's your job description?

[-] 0 points by JusticeForTrayvon (34) 1 year ago

I trust Democrats with that power! They're inherently good, upstanding and un-greedy people! Let's take it away from Republicans!

[-] 1 points by jimmycrackerson (940) from Blackfoot, ID 1 year ago

I don't know. I think if everyone were able to vote themselves raises, they probably would. Some people probably deserve the power to vote themselves raises...but not congress--which is the opposite of progress.

[-] 0 points by JusticeForTrayvon (34) 1 year ago

Democrats deserve the power to vote themselves raises! Not anyone else!

[-] -1 points by WalkerRules (-2) 1 year ago

Hang it up junior, Walker is the man and the unions are dust

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

who signs your paycheck? david or charles?

[-] -1 points by twasthenightbeforekemper (0) 1 year ago

Walker wins by 6 points minimum.

[-] 3 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

koch wins grover wins America loses money trumps humans

[+] -4 points by tupacsugar (-136) 1 year ago

Actually you Leftist's do not represent "America" so therefore if Walker wins it will be a good thing for Wisconsin and America.

GALLUP: Twice As Many Americans Conservative As Liberal:

http://americanelephant.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/poll.png?w=420&h=222

Listening to the liberal mouthpiece media, you’d think the opposite were true; but according to Gallup, conservatives make up the largest ideological group in America, even larger than those who consider themselves moderates, and twice the number that identify as liberal. Forty percent of Americans consider themselves “conservative” or “very conservative”, 35% call themselves “moderate”, and only 21% identify as “liberal” or “very liberal”.

Liberals will point out that their numbers are higher than in the 1990′s, which is true, but it’s important to consider events in order to understand those numbers. When you do that, the graph above really supplies some eye-opening information.

First, liberalism is not popular in America. Aside from the mere one-fifth or less of Americans who are willing to associate themselves with the ideology, this graph tells us that when liberals are in charge, implementing liberal policy, Americans suddenly realize they aren’t so liberal after all, and the country lurches right. It happened when they took control of the White House and both chambers of Congress in 1993, and it is happening now. Seemingly to an even greater degree.

The same is not true, however, for conservatism. Notice the percentage of liberals stayed the same, the percentage of moderates decreased and the percent of conservatives increased when Republicans took control of congress in 1995. Likewise, while the number of liberals ticked up at the end of the Clinton presidency, when that president was being impeached, it remained relatively unchanged throughout the Bush presidency until 2006 when the situation in Iraq was at its worst. Notice also that the number of moderates dipped, and the number of conservatives rose to a high, just after the Iraq war began.

So what does that mean? It means the country lurches to the right when liberals run the show, but is generally comfortable with or even amiable to conservative policy.

It also shows that liberals are punching way above their weight, undoubtedly because of the inordinate influence of their mouthpiece, the mainstream media. But we know that already.

But what it means most immediately is that conservatives have all the momentum and Republicans should do very well in next years elections. At least as good as 2004, very possibly as good as 1994. If liberal identification ticks down another point, and I think it will, a Republican landslide is entirely possible.

BUT! and it’s a BIG BUT, Obama and the Democrats are very organized. They know that Americans haven’t let liberals hold all the levers of power for more than 2 years in a very long time, which is why everything they have done since taking power has been geared towards cementing their power permanently. They have taken trillions of your tax dollars and basically given it directly to unions, ACORN, and their other special interests. They seized the auto industry, slapped a big bow on it, and gave it to the United Auto Workers. The car dealerships they closed down were overwhelmingly Republican contributors, while all the dealerships owned by Democrats remain open.

The only jobs they have stimulated are union jobs, government jobs, and government union jobs. The private sector has shrunk drastically, while government has expanded exponentially. By design. Unions and government workers vote overwhelmingly for Democrats.

They found they can’t pass Card Check through congress, so they are working to implement it through the executive branch instead.

They have already slashed border enforcement, and will try to pass amnesty between now and the election — probably with some sly voter-registration mechanism as part of the deal. Obama is running the Census directly out of the White House, with ACORN doing the counting. And look for Democrats or the FCC to try to force “local control” of talk radio stations — which basically amounts to the Fairness Doctrine by different means.

Obama’s original tax plans involved creating, for the first time, a majority of Americans who pay little or no income tax. I’m sure that is still the plan. He and liberal Democrats are pushing hard for a public health care plan to compete with the private sector because they know that the public plan will undermine the private industry and drive it out of business. That is their intent. (more on that later)

In other words, everything Democrats have done since seizing power, they have done because they knew Americans would not let them hold that power long, and they must work quickly to stack the deck in their favor.

Yes, the numbers have swung towards conservatives, and should favor Republicans next year, they could very well even favor a Republican landslide; but Democrats are doing everything in their power to make sure it doesn’t happen, and doesn’t matter if it does.

What it means for conservative Americans is that we must get involved and organize. If regular conservative Americans get involved in the election process. If we support candidates and volunteer with our time, effort and dollars, Republicans will win. If conservatives get involved NOW, and support strong conservative candidates to win in the primaries, it means conservative Republicans will win.

http://americanelephant.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/gallup-twice-as-many-americans-conservative-as-liberal/

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

And the "average" American re-elected
crook nixon
crook reagan
crook bush

[-] -3 points by tupacsugar (-136) 1 year ago

At least you do not deny your minority status even though you posit these lies about Reagan and Bush. If not for lies and distortions you would not have anything to post here on this forum.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

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[-] 0 points by tupacsugar (-136) 1 year ago

Always can count on lucid and compelling content from you.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

And we know that when conservatives get their way and republicans win, the economy suffers. When Dems are in power and liberal policies are passed the 99% do well. When repubs win they take money from the middle class working american families and give it to their 1% super wealthy friends. The repubs already said they would cut taxes for the wealthy and take from the elderly and poor/working class. So if you want to help the wealthy 1% vote republican! If you want to help the middle class working american families then support OWS. Vote out pro Norquist, anti buffet rule republicans

[-] -2 points by tupacsugar (-136) 1 year ago

So the proof of what you claim is the last 6 years of Dem rule in the Senate/(4 yrs) House,and the last 4 yrs of Obama's reign? Keep in mind that many who you refer to as "conservatives" are really just RINO's. You've really made no point at all other than to prove I'm right. The economy has like really been suffering under the Obama Regime if you couldn't tell.

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

We have had 3 yrs of private sector job growth.! Added 4 million jobs! Bush gave us 750K job losses per month. We have gone from the worst recession in 70 yrs created by repubs and their 1% puppet masters to a recovery that is only slow because of treasonous republican who have obstructed the agenda to create jobs! You support republicans and an agenda that would further reward (tax cuts for wealthy, less regulation) the 1% criminals who crashed the world economy!. You may be right wing. but you are only right for the 1%. Support the 99% Vote out anti green jobs politicians

[-] -3 points by tupacsugar (-136) 1 year ago

You certainly have your propaganda well digested and you spew it with such flair,I would expect no less from an Obama shill and Drone of the Regime.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I support the 99%. cut taxes for small business, raise it for the wealthy. Public option health insurance to compete with criminal insurance corp, Buffet rule, Green jobs, no subs/tax loop holes for fossil fuel corps, end corp personhood, immigration reform, expand pell grants, Which wing supports these issues that will help the 99%. If repubs support these good policies I'm with them. I shill for the people. Drone for the 99%. You speak for the 1% criminals who crashed the world economy. They have armies of lobbyists,lawyers,accountants and they have you. You and your fellow 99% advocating for the 1%. Vote YOUR interests. not theirs. Look deep in your heart. think of your family. turn away from the dark side! Support OWS

[-] -2 points by tupacsugar (-136) 1 year ago

When will YOU support OWS instead of Obama and the Democrats?

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I support OWS! When will you support your fellow American workers? Instead of the 1%criminals who crashed the world economy. The issues I listed are good for the 99%. You are against them if you are anti OWS. Are you a troll trying to divide the good, hard working, courageous OWS protesters? Are you working against your own interests.? You would help the wealthy at the expense of your own family.? Traitorous, treasonous! You have no honor!

[-] -1 points by tupacsugar (-136) 1 year ago

You are repeating a flawed narrative of this 99% vs 1%. This is the failed rhetoric of class warfare and Communists. You believe that the constant repetition of this mantra will somehow render it as truth. Believe what you will it's a free country for now anyways. If you get your way freedom will no longer be the defining virtue of this country.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Class war is not rhetoric. There has been class through out all human history. It becomes "rhetoric" when the lower class (99%) strikes back. When the 1% are left alone to suck up all the money from the working class it's not called class war. where do you think they got all that money? From us (the 99%). You think they got it fairly? Pure capitalism? Please, I don't buy into that rhetoric. They have rigged the system by purchasing the politicians.! they succeed because they have convinced half the 99% to advocate for them. They have armies of lawyers,lobbyists,accountants and you working for them. Your on the wrong side! Support your fellow 99% vote out anti 99% politicians.

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[-] -1 points by tupacsugar (-136) 1 year ago

And again the Communist Mantra is repeated ad nauseam. You're not convincing anybody of anything other then your complete lack of critical thinking.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

now you're just lying. I am not a racist and have not used slurs like you have. Never said anything you claim I have. However you have said "injun' "illegals" and spewed birther crap.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

My war is on the 1% criminals and the tools who advocate for them. You are identifying race ("injun" illegals" birther") . The 1% cannot succeed without half the 99% (right wing?) voting their interests. Vote your interests. Vote out anti immigrant politicians.

[-] -2 points by tupacsugar (-136) 1 year ago

You are a racist,you slam the accomplishments of minorities that succeed and become wealthy, You want people of color to remain poor and in the Ghetto. You use the language of class warfare to veil you racism,you are disgusting.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I don't believe any of the lies you are spewing. You however did use the racist slur "injun". I haven't used any slur (nor would I) You are the one who spews the racist birther crap. I would never parrot racist republican dogma. You haven't disavowed hatred for gays or immigrants. You are clearly a racist you are certainly not pro OWS.

[-] -2 points by tupacsugar (-136) 1 year ago

And your war on rich,successful minorities continues. You veil your racism in class warfare rhetoric. Your obsession with interfering with the personal lives of people just to satisfy your perverted desire to know personal,sexual information is disgusting.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I'm a capitalists through and through, entire life, all my income, real estate, stocks. Doesn't change how our economy was wrecked by 1% criminals, nor how they've stolen our govt, and as a result how they have rigged the system to perpetrate the biggest redistribution of wealth from working Americans to themselves. Thats not communism. That is me agitating for justice, fairness, equity!. Calling me names won't stop OWS. You can't intimidate anyone with your schoolyard bullying tactics.

[-] -2 points by tupacsugar (-136) 1 year ago

Your whole story is a fantasy constructed by Leftist's. I don't want to intimidate you or insult you however I call you a Communist because you are trumpeting the philosophy of Communist's and Socialist's.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

What??? Now you are making things up. I haven't mentioned being against any black people. And I assure you the 1% (that you support) is not made up of black people (is that why you support them). In fact I would venture to say that most 1% black people (Herman misogynist Cain excluded) are supporting the 99%. You know there are many 1% (of all races) that support the 99%, that support the Buffett rule. Good people. Good soldiers. BTW You haven't said if you hate gays, and immigrants as well as native americans and african american. Please go on the record.

[-] -1 points by tupacsugar (-136) 1 year ago

I don't know what rock or tent you're living under but wake up mate,there are plenty of minorities that are wealthy and successful and for you to rail against them and begrudge these people of color the wealth and riches they've worked HARD all their lives for is nothing more that racism and disgusting. You only believe that people of color belong in the ghetto and poor,that is outrageous and demonstrates why you are a closet racist who has been outed.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

LMFAO. You are pathetically desperate now. Herman Cain is a misogynistic buffoon! His race nor his income matter to me. His position on the issues matter more than his mistreatment of women. The President may be a 1%'r in terms of income but that doesn't matter. HIS position on the issues are the reason I prefer him than your candidate Romney (didn't the Mormons exclude black people until '78? is that why you support him?) Support OWS Vote out anti womens rights politicians

[-] -2 points by tupacsugar (-136) 1 year ago

Still you are extremely critical and very aggressively raging against these rich men,this leaves many people wondering is it because they are black? What do you have against Rich Black Men? Do you not think Black men deserve money,a job? To be successful?

This IS racist and you should be called out and ridiculed for supporting such racist animosity toward Black Men with money.

You are a closet racist,the worst kind.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I ain't mentioned Obama, or the Democrats. I simply called you a racist for using the racist slur "injun" and spewing the racist birther crap. Racists always support the 1%. Are anti immigrant also? You are lost. Good luck you will need it.

[-] -1 points by tupacsugar (-136) 1 year ago

Herman Cain,Obama are both "1%ers" you must be a racist with all your anti-1% hate mongering.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

But you are speaking up for the 1%, You did use the racist slur "injun" and you have spewed that racist birther crap that intelligent people have disavowed. So you are clearly anti OWS. Give up. You have been found out!. You won't taken seriously here. OWS is too smart for you.!

[-] -3 points by tupacsugar (-136) 1 year ago

"OWS is too smart for you."

Obviously not,you and DKAtoday are still spewing pro Obama re-elect bullshit.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I disagree. I'm agitating for the change we need to take back the govt for the 99%. You are here to speak for the 1%!. That is traitorous! Do you understand that simple fact?. They have you hook line and sinker!

[-] -1 points by tupacsugar (-136) 1 year ago

Quite the opposite you have been fully propagandized and completely usurped.