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Forum Post: Paul Craig Roberts ~ The Neoconservative War Criminals In Our Midst

Posted 1 year ago on Sept. 19, 2012, 10:56 a.m. EST by Renneye (3703)
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The Neoconservative War Criminals In Our Midst ~Paul Craig Roberts. August 1st. 2012

You can find the names of some of humanity’s worst enemies here: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32021.htm

The State Department has an office that hunts German war criminals. Bureaucracies being what they are, the office will exist into next century when any surviving German prison guards will be 200 years old. From time to time the State Department claims to have found a lowly German soldier who was assigned as a prison camp guard. The ancient personage, who had lived in the US for the past 50 or 60 years without doing harm to anyone, is then merciless persecuted, usually on the basis of hearsay. I have never understood what the State Department thinks the alleged prison guard was supposed to have done–freed the prisoners, resign his position?–when Prussian aristocrats, high-ranking German Army generals and Field Marshall and national hero Erwin Rommel were murdered for trying to overthrow Hitler.

What the State Department needs is an office that rounds up American war criminals.

They are in abundance and not hard to find. Indeed, recently 56 of them made themselves public by signing a letter to President Obama demanding that he send in the US Army to complete the destruction of Syria and its people that Washington has begun.

At the Nuremberg Trials of the defeated Germans after World War II, the US government established the principle that naked aggression–the American way in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Pakistan, and Yemen–is a war crime. Therefore, there is a very strong precedent for the State Department to round up those neoconservatives who are fomenting more war crimes.

But don’t expect it to happen. Today, war criminals run the State Department and the entire US Government. They are elected to the presidency, the House, and the Senate, and appointed to the federal courts as judges. American soldiers, such as Bradley Manning, who behave as the State Department expects German soldiers to have behaved, are not honored, but are thrown into dungeons and tortured while a court martial case is concocted against them.

Hypocrisy is Washington’s hallmark, and all but the most delusional are now accustomed to their rulers speaking one way and behaving in the opposite. It is now part of the American character to regard ourselves as members of the “virtuous nation,” “the indispensable people,” while our rulers commit war crimes around the globe.

Whereas we have all been made complicit in war crimes by “our” government, it still behooves us to know who are the active war criminals in our midst who have burdened us with our war criminal reputation.

You can learn the identity of many of those who are driving the world into World War Three, while their policies result in the murder of large numbers of Arabs and Muslims in Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, Pakistan, Yemen, Iraq, and Lebanon, by perusing the signatures to the contrived letter to Obama from the neoconsevatives calling on Obama to invade Syria in order to “rescue” the Syrian people from their government.

According the the letter signed by 56 neoconservatives, only the Syrian government is responsible for deaths in Syria. The Washington sponsored and armed “rebels” are merely protecting the Syrian people from the Assad government. According to the letter signers, the only way the Syrian people can be saved is if Washington overthrows the Syrian government and installs a puppet state attentive to the needs of Israel and Washington.

Among the 56 signatures are a few names from the Syrian National Congress, believed to be a CIA front, and a few names from dupes among the goyim. The rest of the signatures are those of Jewish neoconservatives tightly allied with Israel, some of whom are apparently dual-Israeli citizens who participate in the formation of US foreign policy. The names on this list comprise a concentration of evil, the goal of which is not only to bring armageddon to the Syrian people but also to the world.

The letter to Obama is part of the propaganda operation to demonize the Syrian government with lies in order to get rid of a government that supports Hizbollah, the Muslims in southern Lebanon who have twice driven the vaunted, but cowardly, Israeli army out of Lebanon, thus preventing the Israeli government from achieving its aim of stealing the water resources of southern Lebanon.

Not a single sentence in the letter is correct. Listen to this one for example: “The Assad regime poses a grave threat to national security interests of the United States.” What utter total absurdity, and the morons who signed the letter pretend to be “security experts.”

How do we evaluate the fact that 56 people have no shame whatsoever and will lie to the President of the United States, telling him to his face the most absurd and obvious false things in order to advance their personal agenda at the expense of not merely the lives of Syrians but, by leading to wider war, of life on earth?

This same neocon architects of armageddon are also working against Iran, Russia, the former Soviet central Asian countries, Ukraine, Belarus, and China. It seems that they can’t wait to start a nuclear war.

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[-] 3 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

This article reminds us how we let nazis escape through Ratlines, Stay in Germany in Operation Gladio to be the ones to fight communists, and the ones we probably recruited to work for our military and government ...after WWII.

We created what would become the CIA in WWII, and we started down this road of corruption ... in all the actions of recruiting Nazis to work for us. It is real. Corruption has just finally eaten away our whole government.

[-] 3 points by willz (3) 1 year ago

The neocons have a long criminal history. The neocon PNAC signers (who pined for a new Pearl Harbor (back before 9/11)) should be arrested if they ever step out of the U.S. as accomplices in the 9/11 murders.

[-] 1 points by Renneye (3703) 1 year ago

Agreed! You gave me the idea for my next thread. Thanks! Here it is...

http://occupywallst.org/forum/americas-war-for-global-domination-michel-chossudo/

[-] 2 points by childseyes (85) 1 year ago

Renneye, if our acceptance of them were somhow unconsciously created, would that help explain how they infiltrated so deeply?

I had a feeling that dark agenda had more capability than the dumbing down left us books to understand it with.

Hey, this might explain why we are destroying our atmosphere. I mean . . we do not want to do that . ... do we?

[-] 5 points by Renneye (3703) 1 year ago

Absolutely. It is no accident that we are now standing at the edge of the volcano with two choices. Either we free ourselves of the chains the elite have shackled us with and run in freedom down the side of the mountain to start a new society from the ground up...or, well... the alternative is very hot indeed.

Do we share the blame for this unconscious creation of the monster that is the 'ruling class'? Sure we do. But I will say that I feel we do not share 'equal' responsibility.

A systemic structure of dominant and subordinate social roles is an extremely complex psychological area. It happens over many generations and plays on the evolution, survival, and fears of both the oppressed and the oppressors.

It becomes a multi-layered and dynamic kind of 'script' layed out by the wealthy psychopaths(imho) of society who seek idealogical control over the masses...then played out consciously and unconsciously by both sides.

The most troubling aspect of this, is that the oligarchs have such obscene wealth, that they have consciously 'institutionalized' their domination...and the media is thereby defunct as any kind of help to us, in its current form. This is one of my two biggest wishes for OWS...to occupy the media. It is in my view...the single biggest stumbling block to informing clearly to the masses, the dilemma we are in. Access to "mainstream media" would expedite the removal of the oligarchs from their power over us exponentially.

The 'dumbing down' of a population is but one tactic in a whole host of strategies used by the oligarchs to control the people and infiltrate every level of government. Subterfuge...of every kind is their favourite. In retrospect...it is easy to see how we have been proverbially 'led by the nose' to this precipice in time...by these narcissistic, hubristic tyrants...wielding their carefully placed and armed (though seemingly shrouded in immunity) chess pieces...against an unsuspecting and trusting citizenry.

"They" are moving much faster now than ever before...I can feel the gears moving. We MUST find a way to get our voices heard in the mainstream media. Occupy the media!!!

Aw gees, childseyes...don't even get me going on "destroying the atmosphere". My views on this matter are not very popular here, so I'll leave it alone for now.

[-] 2 points by childseyes (85) 1 year ago

Hey, I thought this place had environmentalists posting.

Renneye- "Aw gees, childseyes...don't even get me going on "destroying the atmosphere". My views on this matter are not very popular here, so I'll leave it alone for now."

I really like this concept, "Occupy the media!!!" Can occupy do critical thinking and do more than show up and campout. Like test their integrity, or their lawfulness or something.

[-] 2 points by Renneye (3703) 1 year ago

Lol! You rascal! Are you trying to get me in trouble childseyes?!

I am an environmentalist to my very soul, and there is much to do to protect our planet...but I also know that climate is one of the major 'tools' that the nwo will use to have 'us' usher in rules that will take away our own freedoms, so they can control 'their' planet. Their arrogance and sense of entitlement knows no bounds. So, by all means, lets take care of 'our' planet and not let 'them' hoard it for themselves. They're already well on their way.

Yes! 'Occupy the Media'!! Absolutely, it should be one of the top 2 priorities for OWS.

"Test their integrtity"? Ok...what did you have in mind?

[-] 2 points by childseyes (85) 1 year ago

Perhaps as critical as climate change, but shorter term, is plain old pollution. The EPA has authority there, but did we see them protecting us from corexit in the gulf BP debacle? Noooooo. Uh, they need to follow laws and stop with the treason. GATT and NAFTA.

They love to make a problem too big to control, then they can break your butt while regulating you to death. And it provides cover for their own non feasance.

Media has a duty, the "public trust". OWS needs to do a protest that the public really needs to know about, something that effects everyone. I saw this strategy here last year.

"Occupy congress" and demand an ART5 convention because 2/3 of the states have applied many times and congress intentionally misinterpreted over and over to avoid calling a convention.

By avoiding, the problems OWS has been addressing were created over time.

The concept of preparatory amendment needs to be freshly shared with the methods of ending the abridging of free speech. All that is something pretty profound that media should be reporting. If they don't, the protests divide with 1/2 at media corporate offices and the rest at congress.

About this time when there are so many people that the streets around the media offices are stopped, the media must start reporting or a serious element of neglect arises. If the protestors are talking about defense of the constitution with ART5, constitutional intent and ending the treason, the the media is actually acting unconstitutionally and party to concealing a threat and aiding elements the people have identified as violating laws that if followed, would increase the peoples capacity to defend the constitution.

Like congress.

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

That is exactly what the NWO'ers are intent on using climate change for. And they ridicule those who resist. What kind of science needs to resort to ridicule?

[-] 2 points by childseyes (85) 1 year ago

Okay, but is media essentially the collective consciousness? Or could it be if we we not talking and sharing with one another as families and communities or a nation, media becomes our "collective conscious"?

If so, that would explain why those ART5 people have that preparation for convention concept that works to end the abridging of free speech.

--Renneye wrote--- A systemic structure of dominant and subordinate social roles is an extremely complex psychological area. It happens over many generations and plays on the evolution, survival, and fears of both the oppressed and the oppressors.

Yea, okay . . . that says it very well. Over generations. If your was a child living in fear, obiedient to get food and shelter, he might teach that to his children, then it's reinfoced as the "right thing to do" and the alternatives become dim and more fearful.

Of course the elite have the opposite development becoming more immersed in control and dominance.

OMG-epigenetics! The potentials here can confirm this thing happening over generations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp1bZEUgqVI

WOW! in our own life times knowledge can change the cells we create, so now it really makes sense:-)

[-] 2 points by Renneye (3703) 1 year ago

If the oligarchs have it their way....the media will forever be humanity's 'collective conscious'. They keep parents busy with low paying, menial (sometimes multiple) jobs. No time and/or too tired for "talking and sharing with one another"...thereby media has become the screen to the soul of our children. In effect, an engulfing de facto voice of influence.

I am still filled with tremendous hope...though I monitor carefully against a kind of euphoric, paralyzing 'hopium', and keep it real. The Occupy Movement is what has given me this hope. More and more people ARE waking.

It is known that it takes just 10% of a population to wake up and rebel, to affect the course of events by a corrupt government...and we will get there. Although twisted, the worse the government gets....the better it is for occupy. I don't think we have long to wait.

Epigenetics huh?! Thanks so much for that link. Very telling. Given the direction we're going in...you'd think the oligarchs want it this way. They get the best of the best, while the 'riff-raff' get poisonous water, toxic food and pollution. If epigenetics is at work here...and clearly it is...there will be an ever increasing chasm between us and the ruling class. It won't be long before we are devolved into a hunchbacked, dim-witted 'slave race' meant only for the obsequious servitude of our haughty, autocratic 'owners'. Grrrrr!!

How is the ART5 movement going, 'childseyes'? I've seen it in various posts on this forum, and I know there is a website one can go to to engage in the ART5 discussion and action.

The "end of abridging of free speech" is something that is near and dear to my heart. The idea that concise language could be used in a meaningful and powerful way to set up a healthy society should be an absolute priority. What can you tell us about such an endeavor?

[-] 2 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

Absolutely, 'occupy the media.' The fake media is the enemy. It seems the rigid topdown leadership of OWS wouldn't allow it.

The insane consensus decision making (lack of decision making really) and ethos of no demands must be thrown off.

David Graeber and his clones (clowns) must go.

[-] 2 points by Renneye (3703) 1 year ago

Well, I'll certainly agree with 'occupy the media', and I'll also agree with the decision making portion as well. I wished right from the beginning that there would have been a voting on issues section on this website.

I have an innate distrust of leaders, but I dare say that David Graeber's background in social movements dedicated to the principles of direct democracy and direct action, and his education on the history of debt, would have made him uniquely qualified in at least a consultant capacity with occupy. Unless I missed something...what's wrong with David Graeber??

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

"These people say they are the true leaders: http://assange.rt.com/occupy-episode-seven/ . Note how they primp and preen, the little prima donnas.

Obvious there are leaders, that's why almost all Occupies are structured the same -- GAs with consensus driven decision making -- which means no decision making. That's by design.

David Graeber seems to be the puppet master -- the social scientist/anthropologist based in London. He probably sees himself as a social engineer. It's his design. Fraud by design. He's so brilliant that he front ran a whole social movement, but designed it to fail.

Too bad David, we've only failed initially. We need to throw off the consensus model, come to real decisions and make real demands. That's how we'll reach the still sleeping, that's how we'll reach those lost in misery as they slide out of the middle class.

OWS hasn't even appealed the ruling that kicked us out of the park. NLG said there was no body capable of making the decision because we were leaderless -- I'd laugh, if I weren't crying.

Thanks for leading us into the ground David, you globalist swine." http://occupywallst.org/forum/who-runs-occupy-wall-street/#comment-839503

Also,

"I think the bigger problem than no leader, are the consensus driven GAs. It's ineffectiveness by design. It allows no direction, no demands and it hobbles intellectual development of the movement.

Unfortunately I believe this was by design. David Graeber is a dangerous fraud. I don't know who he works for but I believe his and his peoples' task was to frontrun popular dissatisfaction and saddle it with an ineffective structure. . . . " http://occupywallst.org/forum/should-there-be-a-leader-after-all-is-leaderlessse/#comment-872703

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

David's solution to today's problems is a debt jubilee. Is that some kind of joke? It's not going to happen.

So far, he's given us a structure that straitjackets OWS from advancing/being effective and a non-solution solution to our problems. What ends is he working towards?

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

we need to concentrate on what CAN HAPPEN and what 80% of Americans want


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Overturn Citizens United { CU }
and
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[-] 2 points by thoreau42 (595) 1 year ago

Paul Craig Roberts is legit.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

This is an important 'forum-post', chock full of information and as an added corollary, please also see :

Thank-you for posting this.

e tenebris lux ...

[-] 1 points by Renneye (3703) 1 year ago

Thanks Shadz! When they can't get them with anything else..they sure do like to fall back on the old standby...'anti-Semite', don't they?!

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

Any way to file a criminal complaint against them with Interpol, so they'll be picked up if they leave the country? It seems like they won't face justice here.

[-] 1 points by podman73 (-652) 1 year ago

I noticed that the left wingers who continue all the actions listed are left off the hate list why is that?

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

I'm an oilman and it's my understanding that Syria doesn't have any oil. That's just too bad. Syria is not on my radar. Damn it feels good to be an oilman. (I'm kidding)

[-] -3 points by oldJim (-96) 1 year ago

informationclearinghouse.info is owned and operated by the NWO. They use that website as a propaganda machine. They blame other people for their crimes so they can keep hiding. Don't let the NWO fool you. Everything on that site is a lie.