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Forum Post: OWS have a voice now. How can we use it?

Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 18, 2011, 7:28 p.m. EST by TruthWakes (23) from Viroqua, WI
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The mainstream media only serves the goals of the 1%. How can we elevate the voice of the 99% beyond marching with signs? How can we reach more people to teach them about what is really being done to us by the 1%.

In my opinion, the biggest obstacle we face is that most people actually get their information from what they see on Fox and CNN. How can we change that?



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[-] 1 points by qlawrence (4) 12 years ago

Has anyone suggested a workshop at the park on how to run for office like city council or the House of Reps? A workshop like that would scare a lot of people. Plus, a lot of protesters really should learn more about running for office and actually do it.

[-] 1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 12 years ago

Start the war against Injustice by starting our own banks to double the income of the Bottom 99% of Workers, for many more people will come to your side when you are proactive (for “new” Business & Government solutions), instead of reactive (against “old” Business & Government solutions), which is why what we most immediately need is a comprehensive “new” strategy that implements all our various socioeconomic demands at the same time, regardless of party, and although I'm all in favor of taking down today's ineffective and inefficient Top 1% Management System of Business & Government, there's only one way to do it – by fighting bankers as bankers ourselves, and thus doubling our income from Bank Profits which are 40% of all Corporate Profits; that is, using a Focused Direct Democracy organized according to our current Occupations & Generations. Consequently, I have posted a 1-page Summary of the Strategically Weighted Policies, Organizational Operating Structures, and Tactical Investment Procedures necessary to do this at:


Join http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/StrategicInternationalSystems/ because we need 100,000 “support clicks” at AmericansElect.org in support of the above bank-focused platform.

Most importantly, remember, as cited in the first link, that as Bank Owner-Voters in your 1 of 48 "new" Business Investment Groups (or "new" Congressional Committees) you become the "new" Online Congress, and related “new” Businesses, REPLACING the "old" Congress, and related “old” Businesses, according to your current Occupations & Generations, called a Focused Direct Democracy.

Therefore, any Candidate (or Leader) therein, regardless of party, is a straw man, a puppet, a political opportunist, just like today; what's important is the STRATEGY – the sequence of steps – that the people organize themselves under in Military Internet Formation of their Individual Purchasing Power & Group Investment Power. In this, sequence is key, and if the correct mathematical sequence is followed then it results in doubling the income of the Bottom 99% of Workers from today's Bank Profits, which are 40% of all Corporate Profits.

Why? Because there are Natural Social Laws – in mathematical sequence – that are just like Natural Physical Laws, such as the Law of Gravity. You must follow those Natural Social Laws or the result will be Injustice, War, etc.

The FIRST step in Natural Social Law is to CONTROL the Banks as Bank Owner-Voters. If you do not, you will inevitably be UNJUSTLY EXPLOITED by the Top 1% Management System of Business & Government who have a Legitimate Profit Motive, just like you, to do so.

Consequently, you have no choice but to become Candidates (or Leaders) yourselves as Bank Owner-Voters according to your current Occupations & Generations.

So JOIN the 2nd link, and spread the word, so we can make 100,000 support clicks at AmericansElect.org when called for, at exactly the right time, by an e-mail from that group, in support of the above the bank-focused platform. If so, then you will see and feel how your goals can be accomplished within the above strategy as a “new” Candidate (or Leader) of your current Occupation & Generation.

[-] 1 points by Adaminski (1) 12 years ago

By: adaminski - Yes the older generation has the experience. I was born during WWII and lived through the riots, the war, assassinations and the turmoil of the 1960's. There is no focus or message of this movement other than everyone is angry and disillusioned. If the focus is "corruption" in government then that is one matter - if it is the "financial melt-down' created by wall street then that is another. The financial crash is the direct result of a previous administration rescinding the Glass- Steigal Act. For those of you that are too young to know... the Glass-Stiegal Act was passed after the crash of 1929 in order to regulate the banks and securities markets so another crash would not happen again in our country. Unfortunately, the G/S Act was killed in the 1990's. But that only loosened regulations. The final blow was the Commodities Modernization Act of 2000. This Bill, championed by Senator Phil Gramm (TX) and several others basically removed any regulatory powers by the government that led to the recent collapse.

If this movement is against Wall Street then it needs to demand that our government reinstate the Glass- Steigle Act and rescind the Commodities Modernization Act.

Until those regulatory laws are again in place there is little regulation what so ever to prevent it from happening again or continued instability.

BTW - according to the Commodities Act... Wall Street and the Bankers committed NO CRIMES. What they did, although immoral, was perfectly legal. What our Senators and Congressman did to sell us down the toilet was in my opinion, the treasonous act, and they should be brought to justice - if not by our government by civil class actions. Please check out these two Bills/Laws on Wikipedia or Google and other sources. You will be amazed and shocked what they sneaked past a complacent society.

[-] 1 points by wheresthemoney (26) 12 years ago

treasonous!!!! I agree. Immoral!

[-] 1 points by TroubledYouth45 (71) 12 years ago

I think the people should drop the mainstream media. Mainstream has corrupted so many minds. It shows greed is good! When I used to watch tv and listen to mainstream music, all I would here is how good it is to have so much money or your nothing if you can't sing and dance! Well with the people ignoring the mainstream it will fail and everyone in it will fall! We the people just need to keep overloading social networking sites with messages. The internet is the greatest tool in communication.

[-] 1 points by ryanm (33) from Wichita, KS 12 years ago
  1. Corporations are destroying the world. They must be dissolved into their separate companies again.
  2. Any company that cannot succeed must die.

For starters.

[-] 1 points by LobbyDemocracy (615) 12 years ago

I am forming a lobbying organization to represent the voice of the majority. You can read more about it on my post at http://occupywallst.org/forum/why-is-it-that-the-absurd-threads-get-more-activit/ or just check out my site at www.lobbydemocracy.com I am hoping to help the majority find a voice and find issues that we agree on and then convey those thoughts to our elected leaders.

[-] 1 points by microdis (1) 12 years ago

They need to get their demands in line soon alright! Force the government to pass a Congressional Reform Act now!!! Term limits, no tenure or pensions, Congress participates in the same social security, health insurance, retirement funds like the rest of us! No more of them voting themselves payraises - tie it all to our GDP!!! See Mr. Buffett's idea for details! Do it now while we still can!!!

[-] 1 points by frankchurch1 (839) from Jersey City, NJ 12 years ago

Just use it.

[-] 1 points by booshington (397) 12 years ago

First you have to figure out what to say.

[-] 1 points by greenTara (15) from Ukiah, CA 12 years ago

Start an Occupy movement in your local community, practice participatory democracy, discuss and contribute back to the national conversation. Does anyone really think a single group in NYC is the sole voice of this movement?

[-] 1 points by Wander (9) 12 years ago

Simple. Create a new community-based media system. This forum suffers a bit from being anything and everything, but if better categorized and easier to find things on, it'd be a pretty good basic info system. Needs some citizen journalists on the ground, too.

Er... "If you really were the 99%....?" You a millionaire/billionaire? If not, you're part of the 99%. As for everyone agreeing, name one case in history where everyone agreed about everything? Democracy is the right to disagree.

PS: Quite right, the forum won't update posts, even titles.

[-] 0 points by TruthWakes (23) from Viroqua, WI 12 years ago

I like how this forum works over other sites I have seen even though it has its problems. Americans need to engage in what is going on without having it spoon fed to them from the corporate owned media whores. Seems like OWS is helping in that regard quite a bit.

[-] 1 points by wheresthemoney (26) 12 years ago

I would use the internet. Whose not on this world wide web nowadays days.

Use their weapons against them. Use the media ( All source of media) to spread the word.

I tell you, the computer is definitely a sure way to make it Global.

I am with you all!!!

[-] 1 points by polo (63) 12 years ago

if u were really the 99% then everyone would already agree with u. and ur title should be "OWS has a voice" not have. get an education

[-] 1 points by wheresthemoney (26) 12 years ago

I don't think Education has anything to do with the abuse of our government. Even an idiot with NO EDUCATION understands that our Government loves to fill their pockets on the backs of us working people!!!!

[-] 1 points by polo (63) 12 years ago

so go to washington and leave wall street alone

[-] 1 points by wheresthemoney (26) 12 years ago

THEY ALSO PLAY A MAJOR PART, so many CEO's and Bank corporations have abused the system. Gambled hard working individual's life savings. It's Washington and Wall Street fault.

Washington backs down because of political donations and Wall street strong arms the government. It should not be allowed!!!!

And it is "US" poor souls who have suffered from it. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!! Somebody needs to pay. Why not both of them!!!!!!

[-] 1 points by polo (63) 12 years ago

the banks didnt destroy lives. all their bailout money has been paid back in full with interest. if ur worried about taking advantage of ur money protest the car companies who still owe millions

[-] 1 points by wheresthemoney (26) 12 years ago

They helped just like the Government helped! You have obvious key players here! We all know who they are and many hard working people are just plain tired.

[-] 1 points by cmt (1195) from Tolland, CT 12 years ago

They destroyed lives by creating the mess that caused the recession, and selling CDO's and derivatives that caused economic havoc in this country and Europe. Most of the unemployment that has resulted started with the banks and mortgage brokers. And the guys who did it walked away super-rich.

Read "All the Devils are Here" http://www.amazon.com/All-Devils-Are-Here-Financial/dp/159184438X/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1318983460&sr=1-5

[-] 1 points by polo (63) 12 years ago

ok well i know personally that people such as john paulson tried to prevent this by righting to the fed but they failed to listen, they failed to listen and he capitalized to protect himself. the problem is not men like him, its the people in washington who fail to act on tips. madof was reported to the SEC in the 90s but the government did nothing. if u want someone to blame blame the government

[-] 1 points by cmt (1195) from Tolland, CT 12 years ago

Some state attorneys general tried to stem the tide of liars loans, along with advocacy groups, but at that time Bush's Justice Department kept them from acting.

However, things do change based on who's in charge of Justice, and as far as I know, support for pro-comsumer actions is much stronger now.

[-] 0 points by TruthWakes (23) from Viroqua, WI 12 years ago

The 99% share the same problems. You don't need to be a smart ass about about a typo. I tried to correct it but this forum doesn't update the changes I submitted.