Forum Post: Occupy Wall Street Should Begin Thinking About Changing It's Name.
Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 21, 2011, 12:25 a.m. EST by puff6962
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When this movement existed as just a few people camping out in a park, the "Occupy" moniker was descriptive. It reminded people of the abuses of Wall Street and, hence, the "Occupy Wall Street" term encompassed the movement.
But, it is shifted so far beyond that now. The Occupy movement has attracted the interest of a broad intellectual braintrust who have injected a variety of initiatives and objectives.
Many of these are symbiotic, others are not. But, what unites these themes, what brings all of the followers together, is that they are PROGRESSIVE.
Now, I know that this name has already been taken by an insurance company with terrible commercials, but it may be wise.....you may have it in the back of your head......that at some point, we begin to identify ourselves as "The Progressives."
The term "Occupy" carries various connotations to the moderates of America and, as history shows, populists movements live or die based upon the opinion of the moderates.
To move beyond the image of a bunch of kids in the park or shutting down ports for the hell of it, Occupy must become a political entity. It must acquire a seat at the table of power. It must not only develop ideas, it must turn all of the gears to make them reality.
"Occupy Forward" may serve well for the 2012 election. But, when the parks are vacated and we consort through our ideas, it may be more suitable for our philosophy to have a new descriptor.
"The Progressives" brings back images of Teddy Roosevelt and The Bull Moose Party. It reminds us of The Fair Deal and, subsequently, The New Deal.
It describes who we are and gives us room to grow.
Yeah peoples opinions pretty much are irrelevant, the banking system is always on the precipice(and technically bankrupt), were at several ecological tipping points, peak oil and peak debt. And we stupidly are trying to get "growth" going. What a massive clusterfuck. We are going to change or become highly highly dysfunctional of which can't be legislated away.
The name is irrelevant - it's the start of a counter culture
"We the People"
Sounds to much like Ross Perot's "United We Stand" hoard.
lmao, what ever happened to ol big ears.
We start the process of name change @ new years eve times square. http://occupywallst.org/forum/occupy-new-year-eve-and-day-2012/
Just call it "Occupy"
Essentially that IS all it is called. Of all the occupations around the world the only thing in common in the names are the word “Occupy” and with inventive wording like “Occupy your mind”, "Occupy Together", and "Occupy the world" there is no reason to worry about changing the name.
So lets focus on ideas that will bring about the changes we are all working for!
It sounds too much like a military expedition.....an incursion....or a bunch of radicals.
Just Change One Word.
Occupy Progressive Street
it's a LOVELUTION, bay bee ! http://www.indiegogo.com/Occupy-Love
The Global Awakening.
First Power, Then Change.
We have a "moniker", and it is Occupy. It doesn't need changing. It is just great.
It sounds like a the name of a siege, not a group of radical centrists.
Wait, we could be called, "THE CENTRISTS."
How does that one sound?
I really hate the "Progressive" moniker.
I like Procrastinators Movement!
A monitory wager? hahahaha fat dumb redneck.
America is not progressive, most of what is promoted today is regressive in that it defies the desire of the majority populace. And anything that does not serve the majority will not stand the test of time on the evolutionary scale.
Hmmm. Philosophical for sure. Doomed for failure for sure. Read Darwin. Survival of the fittest. Losers will lose. Winners will win.
There has to be something.
We're talking "co-opt" here... right? Subterfuge works...
i think people worry too much about names and groups. We need to stop worrying about divisionary notions like names and groups and focus on ideas that are going to move this forward.
the name matters not aslong as we have an idea to work with.
Read this. Language matters.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/how-the-republican-party-is-instructing-their-poli/
i agree language matters, thats why i say avoid a lable. someone will always find somthing wrong with a lable, even if it needs to be made up, then aslong as you use that lable you are discredited no matter how sound your ideas are.
the other choice is to constantly change your name like corps do, and personaly i think that is insulting. no matter the name you are still you. focus on the ideas that are progressive instead of worring about calling yourself progressive.
How about the Procrastinaters. Great ideas, no substance. Lazy Fucktards is taken by the liberal democrats who daily try to fuck up this country. So I vote for the Procrastinaters Movement!
Redneck pussies are the folks fucking up this country.
Yes. Them too. Do you know any?
Get that dick out of your mouth before you speak to me.
You get lazier with each post? Typical of this OWS bowel movement. Is it the dope?
The dope is mixed with the potato chip crumbs in your keyboard, fat ass.
Meatcock, do you wear a thong or granny panties?
A monitory wager? hahahaha fat dumb redneck.
Do you let your husband do you while your on the rag?
A monitory wager? hahahaha fat dumb redneck.
Do you curl your hair naked? Or bra and panties?
A monitory wager? hahahaha fat dumb redneck.
I'm sorry, I guess we should have left George Bush in charge.
So you like the Procratinaters Movement? Jimmy Carter could lead the fucks back into the parks and do more of nothing.
I'm sorry, I'm watching The League as I'm talking to you....what were you saying...oh ya, Procrastinaters.
If you're so negative on this movement, then why be here?
Are you that pathetically lonely that you have to be a pain in the ass on a....wait this is a funny part.....gotta love Taco....
What was I saying? Oh ya, just get a dog or something.
When will it be official? Procrastinator Movement?
This puff is just some loser with too much time on it's hands in it's parents basement. You can't reason with the mentally retarded. His parents have tried to get rid of him twice but somehow he finds his way back. This is where he belongs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_sYn8DnlH4
I believe that the trolls on here are posting in order to distract, alienate, and ultimately waste the time of everyone else on this forum. Unfortunately, there isn't much that can be done about the trolls short of heavy moderation, which this board clearly does not have.
Trolls make these posts on purpose because they feed off of response. The trolls' language is carefully chosen so that the most people will be compelled to respond. They are trying to create tension, eventually to the point where the people who really care about this movement either leave the boards or leave the movement entirely.
There is a possibility of some sort of concerted effort to dismantle the movement. We would be kidding ourselves to think that there are no entities that would want OWS to fade away. However, I don't think that there is any ulterior motive to these trolls. Most trolls that I run into thrive on the argument. They love confrontation, no matter what it is about or how inane their views are. Its entertainment, and by responding to trolls you are only increasing that person's pleasure.
When helping out with a protest movement against Scientology abuses, the same types of trolls appeared there. I saw a lot of people turned away from that movement thanks to some persistent trolling. I have seen the same types of trolling play out on forum-after-forum, and I don't want to see the same thing turn more people away from this movement.
Instead of responding to trolls, do something productive to help the movement:
Post links to pages that you find important on Facebook, Twitter, etc. Let your friends and family know that you support Occupy. I know whenever I post something about an instance of police abuse against a peaceful protestor, that it gets re-shared immediately.
Take that long 3-page-long post that are about to post here, and send it to your local newspaper as a letter to the editor or opinion piece instead. You have a higher chance of your point being made in front of many more sets of eyes than on this forum, and this will show people who aren't following the movement 24/7 that a) we're still here and b) we have valid viewpoints.
Heck, take the highlights of what you want to say, and make a flyer out of it! There are plenty of programs on all of the major OS's that will allow you to create nice-looking flyers. Adobe Photoshop is the industry standard, but GIMP is a great free alternative that will provide you with the tools that you need.
Gimp - http://www.gimp.org/
Tutorials - http://www.tech-faq.com/make-a-flyer.html http://vimeo.com/23992721
Distribute flyers about the movement or your local Occupy in your town. Look around at the local businesses. Some will have community boards where you can put up your flyers. If you are flyering outside on buildings or other structures, you will need some thick tape. I recommend some clear packing tape, 2-3 inches wide. Tape all the way down on each side so that your flyer doesn't get easily torn down by the wind or by someone else. Look at the way that other flyers are posted in your town and try to make yours stand out in a similar fashion.
Build an Occupy blog or "fan site." Everyone has their own views on the movement, and getting yours out there on a dedicated site brings more attention to the overall movement. Wordpress and other blogging sites make it incredibly easy to build your own blogs.
Wordpress - http://wordpress.com/
Participate in a working group. Chances are that your local Occupy group needs more help. There are things for everyone to do both on and offline. Go find your local group and see where more hands are needed.
Participate in the 99percentdeclaration or other political groups. For those of you that are complaining about the movement's activity on the political front, did you know that there are numerous petitions, websites, and projects in the works right now to push for political change according to our common demands? Personally, I am going to help out with the 99percentdeclaration, but there are other movements as well like Free Elect and quite a few calls for Constitutional Amendments, Article V conventions, etc. Sign some of the petitions that you agree with, or donate to one of these causes and help make the National General Assembly or other political actions a reality.
99percentdeclaration - https://sites.google.com/site/the99percentdeclaration Americans Elect - http://www.americanselect.org/
http://www.themultitude.org/forum/index.php
Is there anything else productive that people could be doing right now to help Occupy instead of responding to trolls? Post your ideas below.
The movement can't be destroyed as long as it goes after bad companies. The trolls here can be converted. Here are two companies to destroy.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/make-a-stand-join-the-clan/
http://occupywallst.org/forum/enterprise-rent-a-car-murders-children/
The Revolution starts here!
He asked for a name change to OWS. Procrastinator Movement has legs and fits. I need guys like puff for my bed time amusement. I hope him and his girlfriend meatcock never leave!
A monitory wager? hahahaha fat dumb redneck.
RobinHood2012 = stuartchase
RobinHood2012 does not equal stuartchase. Stuart Chase's only goal is to promote the KTC. The KTC's only goal is to destroy the two most evil companies on the planet!
http://occupywallst.org/forum/make-a-stand-join-the-clan/
http://occupywallst.org/forum/enterprise-rent-a-car-murders-children/
The Revolution starts here!
I think changing the OWS name is the dumbest thing I ever heard. anyways, I think my posts might be something you can actually get behind. These are really bad companies doing really bad things. No socialist bullshit.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/make-a-stand-join-the-clan/
http://occupywallst.org/forum/enterprise-rent-a-car-murders-children/
The Revolution starts here!
Have you met meatcock? She sounds wild! PM her.
So you have threads where you insult yourself. clever little dick head, aren't you.
Troll Winner, do you live near meatcock? You should look her up. You two have a lot in common. A lot..............
Please, see how many people you can drive to the other forums and projects today. as you're acting like a douche, watch the membership numbers on the other projects and watch the real fruit of your labor, dip shit.
Troll Winner, you are a scam artist. Everyone knows it. Do I need to start a new post about everyone you've scammed? Just be good from now on, run away now.
Yes please, attack the project writers, that'll make you look good. please oh please do it! dip shit.
Troll Winner, when you scam them they'll be here too. Your done but you can't hide. You are the bottom feeder of Trolls and scam artist.
Shut your face pussy.
Do you ride meatcock or only suck it?
Shut your pussy, face.
When you ride, are you reverse cowgirl?
A monitory wager? hahahaha fat dumb redneck.
Look, I don't usually argue with women. You seem very shy. Should I lay off all the personal questions?
A monitory wager? hahahaha fat dumb redneck.
All brown hole or ass to mouth? Do you finger your man?
A monitory wager? hahahaha fat dumb redneck.
Amateur.
Procrastinator Movement, to the parks and beyond!
A monitory wager? hahahaha fat dumb redneck.
When your bent over, do you moan more or less?
A monitory wager? hahahaha fat dumb redneck.
Will you let your husband explore your brown hole? If so, spit or lube? Legs up or down? Top or bottom? Ass to mouth? What do you like?
A monitory wager? hahahaha fat dumb redneck.
All brown hole or ass to mouth? Your fans want to know, and puff.
A monitory wager? hahahaha fat dumb redneck.
You're just mad that the Occupy people are ruining your gay hookup sites. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Your right..........chalk one up for the founder of the Procrastinator Movement. You and your lesbian girlfriend meatcock can enjoy that zinger together.
I bet most of your former girlfriends are now lesbians. Care to share your black book?
I knew it! Thanks!
Wow. So since you are also Thras, does that mean you're also nucleus? You have the same patterns. You are one deranged bitch.
Ha, the week 1 Troll Winner is here folks. Congrats again Troll Winner. So tell us, have you scammed any blog writers this week? Beware of this scam artist folks. Start a thread about him and ask questions. A real douche bag scam artist. But he did win a Troll Award.
You're a Psychopath
Troll Winner fro week 1 a nominated by over 200 posters. Blog scammer! Ask around folks. Blogger beware!
you are a psychopath. My work speaks for itself. you do nothing but insult and flood threads. you haven't enough intellect to move beyond that, dip shit.
Troll Winner, you are very popular for scamming bloggers. Quit the fake front Troll Winner. Do I need to start a thread about you?
Your words are meaningless. We don't even accept the type of people that would buy into your bullshit.
Of course not Troll Winner. Why would you being a scam artist sway any of your new bloggers? They will figure you out. Even you know that.
every time you start your shit, i get more emails. i have another one to answer today. i love when you run people off. we have so many alternatives lying in wait for people to participate. thx for making us stronger, dip shit.
Troll Winner, one of these days you'll feel guilty for ripping people off. You will week 1 Troll Winner, you will.
That christian hippie bad guy image may make you cool to your timid little congregation, but you aren't shit in the real world.
A monitory wager? hahahaha fat dumb redneck.
Just answer, all brown hole? Or do you do ass to mouth? Please answer! It can raise your stature around here. You could become the hot chick in here. You and puff.
A monitory wager? hahahaha fat dumb redneck.
Funny you should assume you're talking to women. Takes a big guy to talk trash to females, pussy.
I know women and you are For Sure a woman. I'm positively correct on this one. You led me down the track of sex talk and didn't stop me. You want to answer the big question so let us hear it: All Brown Hole or a little Ass To Mouth?
LMAO, desperately reaching.
A monitory wager? hahahaha fat dumb redneck.
A monitory wager? hahahaha fat dumb redneck.
Thanks for the PM!! Don't be shy. You are wicked, chick. Brown hole and ass to mouth, wow! You are my new favorite OWS Internet chick! PM me some more.