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Forum Post: Objective Opinions Requested

Posted 2 years ago on Oct. 19, 2012, 9:56 p.m. EST by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT
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I need an objective opinion, if you don't mind.

Is this ballot confusing, Or not?

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Florida 2000 Butterfly Ballot

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peapod has been rather persistent with his insistence that the confusion is all in my head, as you can see right here where he insists:

our picture wouldn't convince a Pre-schooler (maybe that's why you believe it). Zen life is hard; it's even harder when your stupid.......life is dry hard for you isn't it?

Of course I don't believe that, but I thought putting up a post, where the image is plainly visible, might provide an opportunity not available in a comment.

Thanks for you attention.

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[-] 2 points by Shule (2030) 2 years ago

That ballot is a total mess.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (26689) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

It should be either one column with each name on the margin or offset from the margin with each position being voted upon separated with a thick line - the designated vote to the immediate left of the candidate name or two columns with each position being voted for separated with a thick line from the next position under consideration - with the circle to be marked to the left of the candidates name ( each candidate ).

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[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (26689) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Yeah weird - I did complete the comment - I have never seen that happen before.

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[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (26689) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

NOW - The Important part - Was it coherent?

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[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (26689) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

LOL - thx for the enthusiasm.

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[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (26689) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

You Sir - R - correct - Sir. Thanks 4 your support. {:-])

People - the election circle to be marked to indicate your choice immediately to the left of each name - election positions/races separated by lines.

0 - Name

0 - Name


next position

0 - Name

0 - Name

Easy Peasy - no mistakes of interpretation to be made.

BTW - only mark 1 circle to the left of the name in each category that you are voting 4. {:-])

AGAIN - mark only one name per section - ( preferably the one you want to win ).


NO - I am not being stingy - It only works if you choose one name/candidate per section.

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[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (26689) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I don't know what to make of it all - I am kinda thinking that this is done to help promote the idea that politics - is hard and very complicated.

[-] 1 points by DanielBarton (1345) 2 years ago

Honestly no

they should do a better job of making each one look different but honestly i can understand how to vote on this

[-] 1 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 2 years ago

It's not confusing, but it could be clearer.

The idea of an "objective opinion" is rather confusing however. It seems like a oxymoron to me. Opinions are always subjective. Here's the Oxford definition, note the last part.

"a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge "

You most likely meant an opinion backed with some solid arguments?

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[-] 0 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 2 years ago

You already have your answer from a serious study, so why ask here? If you don't trust that study, make a serious one of your own. You won't find "objective" opinions on a random Internet forum.

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[-] 0 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 2 years ago

Yes, a matter of my objective opinion, just what you asked for.

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[-] 1 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 2 years ago

Objective opinion is an oxymoron, like US democracy, or military intelligence.

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[-] 1 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 2 years ago

I was being ironic. A joke. Zen people should see this. I stated from the beginning that there is no such thing as an objective opinion. Read my comments once more.

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[-] 1 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 2 years ago

No flip flop, I remarked on the oxymoron in my first comment. Please, take a short moment to re-read when you are better rested.

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[-] 1 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 2 years ago

My comment on getting objective opinions online was sarcasm. I don't believe in the concept of objective opinions, I said as much in my first comment here. I don't believe you can get objective opinions anywhere. They don't exist.

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[-] -1 points by podman73 (-652) 2 years ago

What's sad is this is what they say people were to stupid to figure out and cost gore the election. That's so absurd, it's a line straight down for gods sake. Of anyone was confused why did they not ask then?

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Anyone that doesnt think that is a bullshit ballot needs to be slapped.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Where are numbers 1 and 2?

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[-] -1 points by yobstreet (-575) 2 years ago

Well I wasn't aware that Bush and Cheney were on the ballot so I would say definitely.

[-] -2 points by Grimreaper2 (-318) 2 years ago

So we are back to the whole "we are too stupid to figure out how to vote" crap. Hanging chads and such. You red garbage are really pathetic.

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[-] -2 points by Grimreaper2 (-318) 2 years ago

But this means what? Does it change anything? Does it help the people? What is your point? You've been on this site since the beginning. What have you accomplished?

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[-] -2 points by podman73 (-652) 2 years ago

Rofl so simple a child could do it.

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[-] 4 points by NVPHIL (664) 2 years ago

Considering we had the meltdown due to two wars, the bush tax cuts, unpaid for prescription plan (which we can't even pay bulk rates), and an unregulated banking system it's a pretty good bet we wouldn't have had the meltdown. On the other hand no meltdown means no awakening of the populace to the sham our demoracy has become.

[-] 4 points by NVPHIL (664) 2 years ago

Considering we had the meltdown due to two wars, the bush tax cuts, unpaid for prescription plan (which we can't even pay bulk rates), and an unregulated banking system it's a pretty good bet we wouldn't have had the meltdown. On the other hand no meltdown means no awakening of the populace to the sham our demoracy has become.

[-] -1 points by podman73 (-652) 2 years ago

Had gore bla bla, really that's pretty sad even for you. Look I'm sorry I can't dumb myself down and say that ballot is hard to figure out. Maybe for you it is but it doesn't require a large brain........if gore lol wow......