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Forum Post: How the Republicans will tamper with the votes

Posted 2 years ago on Oct. 16, 2012, 6:40 p.m. EST by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY
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[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Ummmmmm considering OWS' concern over election fairness and transparency in Mexico, Iran and Russia isn't a bit odd that OWS as such has said and done nothing concerning election fairness and transparency here?

[-] 0 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Progressives supposedly are against white supremacism and are against the oppression of minorities. This is supposedly a progressive forum. The "Black question" or "Black issue" is central to US politics. This article illustrates how the politically easy thing to do in the USA is to "kick a nigger."

Even the first Black president engages in it to a modest extent. That means the political status and therefore the real actual material future of the African American people is tenuous. Therefore a progressive ought to take action to reduce "kick a nigger" politics. Therefore a progressive ought to be against the mobilization of white supremacy and "kick a nigger" politics and a real and meaningful way - like voting against the racist white supremacist candidate.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/kick-a-nigger-politics-bykevin-alexander-gray/

[-] 1 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 2 years ago

Sounds like someone is already convinced that Romney is going to win and must begin explaining that win before it happens...

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

No, maybe the Dems are ready with countermeasures or maybe they will have better hackers. To think it's a simple matter of people voting and their votes being counted fair and square to me is naive. If they approach it as though the Reps are just too nice to engage in this sort of thing they are lost. Probably both parties have their people working on this while we chatter.

[-] 1 points by Barfnow (-16) 2 years ago

Yes! The black helicopters will rape the democracy of this nation!

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

asshole.

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[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Remember and never forget that the conservatives really sincerely believe that the votes of the 47% are not legitimate and in fact the participation of the 47% in their view pollutes the republic. If you absorb this fact you know they will not just sit there and complain about it to each other. You have to say the conservatives believe in acting on their beliefs. Romney's breathtaking 180's and flat out lies show that they are going to do everything they can to win.

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[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

yep.

[-] 0 points by Grimreaper2 (-318) 2 years ago

Where in the hell do you get that silliy shit?

[+] -4 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 2 years ago

There is no such "fact" in existence. The only way to come to such a ridiculous conclusion is to base your entire argument on spin and words taken out of context AND THEN apply that concoction of lies and fabrication to EVERY SINGLE CONSERVATIVE in existence equally-which in itself is ALSO absurd.

If the voting process is so flawed and so easily accessible to just about everyone, then why haven't the liberals been fixing that? Don't you have to say that liberals ALSO believe in acting on their beliefs too? Why should the machines be trusted when they spit out a Democratic win?

If you want to stand by your point here-then you have to be willing to apply it to BOTH sides of the argument.

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[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

On point ZD.

[-] -1 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 2 years ago

I'm sorry....is frogman one of your sock puppets or do you feel he/she cannot form their own response?

Now, please define the word "fact" for me as you define it. Because I don't think this word means what you think it means.

It's really extremely difficult to PROVE what anyone believes or thinks based on sheer behavioral observations, which is why no one accepts the interpretation of behavior as FACTS. Most people are also smart enough to realize its irrational to apply an interpretation to roughly 75%+ of the population and declare that interpretation to be a FACT.

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[-] 0 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 2 years ago

I used the word "roughly" and hereby correct and amend my previous statement.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/152021/conservatives-remain-largest-ideological-group.aspx

Conservatives and moderates (irregardless of whether or not they are Democrats or Republicans) make up 75% of the population. Liberals make up 21%.

58% of Democrats consider themselves to be "very conservative, conservative or moderate" with only 39% of them saying they are "liberal or very liberal".

Even if you take the "moderate" people out, 40% of American adults identify as conservative or very conservative, whereas only 21% of American adults identify as liberal or very liberal.

So...when you say 100% of conservative Republican activists are liars, thieves and whores of Caesar, what FACTS are you basing that on? Did those FACTS bite you in the ass?

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[-] 0 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

True most Americans identify with conservatism or "moderation". At the same time when OWS was on a roll and fresh and new and before the media got its counter strategy together and the permanent government (aka the state) got its counterinsurgent placed as non leading leaders or leading non leaders into the non leadership and at the same time terrorized the vast majority of legitimate protesters the polls showed the working class to admire and look to OWS. It will be a hard scrabble to recoup this momentum.

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Sock puppet? Me? Well my history is here for the intrepid investigator. If it matters to you, google away! I often miss a day or two or three here. I'm glad ZD stepped in to correct you.

[-] -3 points by podman73 (-652) 2 years ago

You didn't address the statement that when dems win the votes are always correct and unquestionable, when reps won there was cheating. Why don't you comment on that?

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[-] -1 points by podman73 (-652) 2 years ago

I realize that this will not fit your view but the 2000 ele tip. Was not stolen, gore made a stupid move and tried to skirt around election laws. Then when he realized he wasn't going to be able to do that he tried to backtrack and ask for the statewide recount but it was to late then.

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[-] -2 points by podman73 (-652) 2 years ago

As long as that rope leads to your face I will! It matters moron because he thought the law didn't apply to him. Like most retards he found the law does apply to him. The ballot design is really what your blameing?!!? There was no wide spread voter fraud, it was documented so well that no court belived them. So basically you say dems were disenfranchised because they were to stupid to make sure the chad was punched out. Then to top it off they tried to say what the voters intent was??? Please if that was two trying to do that you would the same way I am to you......pathetic.

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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (26697) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

What is funny - and what no one asks about - why don't they do ballots like they did the Iowa testing scores = black out the circle next to your answer. I was told that even those way back in the late 50's and early 60's were counted electronically. But they were also able to review by eye examination.

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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (26697) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

It was simple and accurate and easily verifiable.

[-] -1 points by podman73 (-652) 2 years ago

Yea stupid reps wanting me to show a ID when I vote , never mind the fact I have to have one for a million things in a modern life. I have a feeling between kissing you head or your ass the ass would be the smarter of the two.

[-] -1 points by podman73 (-652) 2 years ago

Wow the ballot is hard to figure out......really ? Your source is a guy who ass is in legal trouble (not related to voter issues) no sign of desperation there. As far as kissing your ass I would but your head is up there and there's no room.

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[-] -1 points by podman73 (-652) 2 years ago

Your picture wouldn't convince a Pre-schooler (maybe that's why you believe it). Zen life is hard; it's even harder when your stupid.......life is dry hard for you isn't it?

[-] 0 points by Grimreaper2 (-318) 2 years ago

Yep. This will be the cry of the reds when their messiah loses. How boring. Couldn't be due to a (somewhat ) free people deciding to go a different direction for their country. And for future generations. Oh those horrible conservatives!

[-] 0 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

I don't mind being called a red but most Democrats would have a problem with that. Obama is no Messiah. The people could be the Messiah if and when they awaken.

[-] 0 points by Grimreaper2 (-318) 2 years ago

He could be? Do you really believe that?

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

I didn't say Obama "could be" a messiah. I said and I quote "Obama is no Messiah. The people could be the Messiah if and when they awaken." Meaning once the majority of the people awaken to reality they can do truly great things - things I'd almost say are miraculous.

[-] 0 points by Grimreaper2 (-318) 2 years ago

I see. I guess it would depend on what group of people.

[-] 0 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

I'd start with the 47% and grow it upwards.