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Forum Post: Obama "in bed" with Al Queda?

Posted 11 years ago on Dec. 4, 2012, 10:13 p.m. EST by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai
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New evidence, published over the past 24 hours by the McClatchy News Service and Britain's Daily Telegraph, once again confirms that President Obama is shamelessly in bed with al-Qaeda terrorists in the drive to overthrow the Assad government in Syria. Just yesterday, speaking at National Defense University, President Obama reiterated his demand for regime change and issued a lying claim that Syria is considering launching chemical weapons attacks against neighbor Turkey.

Obama is not only repeating the Bush-Cheney era "weapons of mass destruction" lies to justify regime change and war crimes. He is not even making a pretense of going to the United Nations Security Council or the U.S. Congress before taking military action. Yesterday, he also confirmed that the United States would be willing to send Patriot III missile batteries to southern Turkey as part of the direct planned NATO intervention.

As Lyndon LaRouche has warned repeatedly, such actions against Syria are really directed against Russia and China, and can lead to thermonuclear world war and extinction.

But the real immediate scandal is that President Obama is openly colluding with al-Qaeda networks in the murderous campaign to unseat the Assad government. McClatchy revealed yesterday that the only effective fighting force among the Syrian rebels is the al-Qaeda-linked group Jabhat al-Nusra. It is Jabhat al-Nusra and other neo-Salafists who are conducting the suicide bombings and the major ground assaults, particularly in northern Syria. These groups are operating on an identical profile to the al-Qaeda in Iraq apparatus that waged an asymmetric war against both the U.S. occupying forces and the Sunni tribes of Iraq for years. They continue to conduct blind terrorism against the Shi'ite population of Iraq. Many of those networks have infiltrated into Syria and are part of the Jihadist core of the anti-Assad fighting forces.

Russian President Putin, during his brief visit to Ankara, Turkey on Monday made the identical point. He warned against a replay of Libya in Syria, and noted that the U.S. and NATO overthrew Qadaffi and installed al-Qaeda in power. Less than a year later, the al-Qaeda networks assassinated the U.S. ambassador and three other American diplomats. Putin warned against a replay of the Libya disaster in Syria.

But Obama is unabashed. He runs around claiming that he killed Osama bin Laden and defeated al-Qaeda when, in fact, he has joined forces with al-Qaeda in country after country—always with the same disastrous consequences for the targetted countries, as well as for the United States.

If there was ever reason to now move Heaven and Earth to get Obama out of office immediately, his open alliance with the worst of the jihadist killers—the killers of Ambassador Chris Stevens and the others, and the killers of the original 9/11 attack—is as good as it gets. Obama's collusion with al-Qaeda should come as no surprise to anyone who knows his British Crown pedigree and the long history of the Anglo-Saudi hand behind all world terrorism. The neo-Salafist terrorists leading the suicide bombings, the massacres and other atrocities to get rid of Assad are being financed through Saudi Arabia, specifically through the new head of Saudi intelligence, former Ambassador to the United States Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the funder of the original 9/11 terrorists and the man protected by Bush, Cheney and Obama.




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[-] 2 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 11 years ago

Al Queda? You mean NATO's/Pentagon's private terrorist army? It goes a lot deeper than Obama.

"BBC: al Qaeda Does Not Exist, Banned in the U.S." http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_63362.shtml

"The Power of Nightmares: The Rise of the Politics of Fear"

"If Fahrenheit 9/11 was about how the Bush administration used the terrorist threat for its political gain, Power of Nightmares goes on to uncover the deception behind the deception: that the terrorist threat itself is by and large a phantom threat, blown out of all proportions by a power elite eager to achieve its goals. Part documentary, part essay, part brilliantly edited collage, Curtis tracks the rise and rise of two groups: the American neo-cons and the radical Islamists." http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0430484/reviews


[-] 2 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 11 years ago

I don't blame Russia and China for being concerned about our missiles in Turkey. It's as aggressive as USSR missiles in Cuba. Could it be that WE are the terrorists? Good post!!

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

Thanks, I'm glad some people can see it that way.

[-] 0 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 11 years ago

Germany started WW2 by invading countries and we'll start WW 3 by doing the same. I'll leave you with these 2 quotes:

"Allow the President to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such purpose -- and you allow him to make war at pleasure. . . . If, today, he should choose to say he thinks it necessary to invade Canada to prevent the British from invading us, how could you stop him? You may say to him, 'I see no probability of the British invading us'; but he will say to you, 'Be silent; I see it, if you don't." ~ Abraham Lincoln ~

"These [the armed forces] are not our reliance against a resumption of tyranny in our fair land. All of them may be turned against our liberties, without making us stronger or weaker for the struggle. Our reliance is in the love of liberty which God has planted in our bosoms. Our defense is in the preservation of the spirit which prizes liberty as the heritage of all men, in all lands, every where.... Familiarize yourselves with the chains of bondage, and you are preparing your own limbs to wear them. Accustomed to trample on the rights of those around you, you have lost the genius of your own independence, and become the fit subjects of the first cunning tyrant who rises." ~ Abraham Lincoln ~

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 11 years ago

"confirms that President Obama is shamelessly in bed
with al-Qaeda terrorists in the drive
to overthrow the Assad government in Syria"

Sort of like FDR in bed
with Stalin
to overthrow the hit ler government in Germany .

I heard it reported that Al Kayda printed the Obama bifth certificate

[-] 2 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

Unlike Nazi Germany, I don't see Syria involved in aggressive foreign wars.

Unfortunately, the US is the one that has been aggressively pursing foreign wars, based on bogus justifications.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 11 years ago

You are right - as the dictator of Syria, Assad has the right to murder his own people.
Sort of like rome & the Christians
Sort of like white Alabama in 1850

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

Sort of like Saudi Arabia as well, but we are not going for regime change there.

What happened in Alabama was our business and our responsibility. I don't think Syria is the same. Plus, it puts us in direct conflict with Russia and China. I have to wonder if that's what Obama and his backers want, a nuclear WW3 against Asia.

[-] 0 points by bensdad (8977) 11 years ago

WW3 ??? insane !!!
How would that benefit ANYONE
Why contaminate your post with something so silly?

What happened in Alabama in 1850 was not "our responability"
it was the result of murder and bigotry and religious perversion
slave owners can kill their property

40,000 Saudis have not been murdered by Arabs in the last few months

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

Why is the idea of WW3 silly? WW2 did indeed follow our last major economic crisis, the great depression, and the same forces are active in the world today. Both Russia and China have indicated that WW3 is likely if the US continues to invade countries like Syria and Iran:

Russia: www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9Y2iQdN9NQ

China: www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgfP5hX-F1U

What would anyone gain from WW3? The same as what they always gain from war. Kill the people and then take their stuff, their land, their wealth, etc.

This time, the idea is for the elite to hide out in underground bunkers, while the rest of the world destroys itself, then later, to come out and claim what's left of the world for themselves. Sounds crazy? The top layers of the elite are indeed quite insane.

The Anglo-American elite see their system crumbling, while other countries like Russia and China are on the rise. This is intolerable to our elites, they refuse to consider sharing control of the world with anybody, much less with people of "inferior" races.

Considering that Alabama was within our borders, it was our responsibility to do something about what was happening there. Syria is not within our borders, it is a sovereign country.

Brutal dictators have been promoted into most of the middle eastern countries by the financial oligarchy to due their bidding, as well as to be disposable when the time for that comes.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

What if WWIII is the war we are fighting now(?) against the corpoRATions.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 11 years ago

Apparently you havent been around the last 40 years where we create chaos and then intervene.

You saw what our government did when it was a very small handful of people simply protesting. Imagine if it got organized. And then imagine that after a few deaths, in comes an outside force to start arming the "rebels" aka occupiers.

See where this is going?

Same shit, different face on it. Lame. And very much a terrible shame.

[-] -3 points by lignite (-303) 11 years ago

should make a parking lot out of the Middle East except for Israel. They are all born savages.

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

”The Syrian Human Rights Observatory is the single source for all Western press accounts, including those of UN Human Rights Commission head Navi Pillay and Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, of the numbers of Syrians supposedly killed by Assad every day. The Syrian Observatory Commitee for Human Rights in turn gets these numbers from the London-based Strategic Resource and Communications Centre, headed by Syrian-born Ausama Monajed.

“Who is Monajed? His background makes it clear that not only are these death-counts completely unverified, and not only do they come from the opposition itself, as columnist Phil Giraldi has noted, but that they probably originate from British intelligence. “As was the case with the Libyan terrorists, LIFG [Libyan Islamic Fighting Group], operating from Britain against the Qaddafi regime, Britain controls the Syrian, Ausama Monajed, head of the London-based Strategic Resource and Communications Centre.

Monajed, who provides the information to the Western media about the ‘mayhem’ committed by the Bashar al- Assad regime, wears many hats and is well-protected by British intelligence. He is a founder-member of the Syrian National Council, the group that is urging the Arab League to remove al-Assad, and Monajed is also a member of the London-based Syrian Observatory Committee for Human Rights.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 11 years ago

You claim there are no foreign reporters in Syria?

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

I'm sure there are, but don't you think that those who work for the mainstream western media would be biased? The western media is owned by the global financial oligarchy, and those reporters are on its pay roll. Besides, they don't go out and personally count bodies themselves. They are getting that information from a centralized source.

Even middle eastern media outlets, such as Al Jazeera, have been infiltrated, or perhaps were even set up by MI6 in the first place.

Consider how countries, not part of the Anglo-American axis look at it, as reported in Chinese news:

West seeks to overthrow Syrian gov't to weaken resistance: Iranian judiciary chief


[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

Is this exclusion of Al Qaeda groups from Syria military leadership a positive development?


[-] 0 points by niphtrique (323) from Sneek, FR 11 years ago

It is a policy that started in 1979, and has continued ever since, so blaming Obama does not solve the problem.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 11 years ago

Of course we should blame Obama - it is so much easier than telling the truth

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

I agree about the history, it is the people behind Obama that he is doing these things on the account of. But still, if it is to be stopped now, Obama has to be stopped.

Then, if Glass Steagall were passed, it would bankrupt those people who are controlling our presidents with money.

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 11 years ago

Do you know what GS is ?
If it was re-passed, it would bankrupt no one.
It would split up big banks into smaller banks.
A person who owns 5% of Chase would own 5% of all of the pieces

the way to control the money is to control the money
what do you think of that approach to disconnecting capitalism from democracy

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

It sounds good, but to really control the money, I think we need a national bank that would make low interest, long term loans for economic development.

Glass Steagall would separate commercial from investment banking, removing the government guarantee that investments banks get from being merged with commercial banks.

Once the government guarantee was taken away, those financial institutions that are unsound, would go out of business.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 11 years ago

I know little about a "national bank"
but I have heard of a few states that have a "state bank" and it seems like an excellent idea
also to push competition from the greedy banksters

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

A national bank, in the sense that I am talking about would replace the Federal Reserve, it would be a "nationalized" Federal Reserve, rid of its private owners and owned by the American people.

It wouldn't really compete with other kinds of banks, its main purpose would be to provide money, at low interest over the long term, for investment in national infrastructure, by providing jobs to tens of millions and upgrading our economy.

[-] 1 points by niphtrique (323) from Sneek, FR 11 years ago

The front man is the dummy you can hit at, so the people behind the scenes remain untouched.

[-] 1 points by arturo (3169) from Shanghai, Shanghai 11 years ago

Like I said, Glass Steagall would be intended to hit the people behind the scenes.

[-] 0 points by freakyfriday (179) 11 years ago

Oh yes. Obama's collusion almost became public before the election because of Bengazi but he has managed to keep it quiet as he distracts both the press and Congress with Petraeous pecadillos and Susan Rice's lies. If the American public realized just what Stevens was doing in Beghazi, as well as the fact we had a secret cia contingent there doing who knows what, they would be appalled. Stevens was working w Turkish diplomats on smuggling guns and al quaeda fighters into Syria. It's proxy war between Nato and Russia/China using jihadists as the cannon fodder. The folks who frequent this board don't seem to care.