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Forum Post: Ndaa 2012 Codified Indefinite Detention. Now Ndaa 2013 Legalizes Domestic Propaganda.

Posted 5 years ago on June 17, 2012, 6:01 a.m. EST by vvv0528 (1)
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NDAA 2012 Codified Indefinite Detention. Now NDAA 2013 Legalizes Domestic Propaganda.

America's two-party tyranny has authorized endless wars, warrantless surveillance, homeland drones and indefinite detention. Now they're legalizing the Big Lie.


What the Democrats and Republicans agree on is far more damaging and dangerous than the wedge issues on which they supposedly don't. We saw that last year with the enactment of Public Law 112-81, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 (NDAA 2012), which had bipartisan sponsorship and sailed through both House and Senate with overwhelming bipartisan majority support. Now acceleratedly close on its heels comes H.R. 4310, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2013 (NDAA 2013), which glided through the House with broad bipartisan support on May 18 and is now in the hands of the Senate:


Attached to that bill is a bipartisan-sponsored amendment summarized as follows:

"Amendment No. 114 - Reps. Thornberry (R-TX) and Smith (D-WA): The amendment would amend the United States Information and Educational Exchange Act of 1948 (known as the Smith-Mundt Act) and the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 1986 and 1987 to clarify the authorities of the Department of State and the Broadcasting Board of Governors to prepare, disseminate and use public diplomacy information [propaganda] abroad and to strike the current ban on domestic dissemination of such material. The amendment would clarify that the Smith-Mundt Act's provisions related to public diplomacy information [propaganda] do not apply to other federal departments or agencies (including the DoD)."


The full text of the amendment is assumed to be H.R. 5736, euphemistically labelled the "Smith Mundt Modernization Act of 2013". You can read that here:



This amendment legalizes what many think the government has been doing for years anyway: using false propaganda to influence the decisions and control the minds of its own citizens. According to Buzzfeed:

"The tweak to the bill would essentially neutralize two previous acts - the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948 and Foreign Relations Authorization Act in 1987 - that had been passed to protect U.S. audiences from our own government's misinformation campaigns... The new law would give sweeping powers to the government to push television, radio, newspaper, and social media onto the U.S. public. 'It removes the protection for Americans,' says a Pentagon official who is concerned about the law. 'It removes oversight from the people who want to put out this information. There are no checks and balances. No one knows if the information is accurate, partially accurate, or entirely false...' Critics of the bill point out that there was rigorous debate when Smith Mundt passed, and the fact that this is so 'under the radar,' as the Pentagon official puts it, is troubling... The evaporation of Smith-Mundt and other provisions to safeguard U.S. citizens against government propaganda campaign! s is part of a larger trend within the diplomatic and military establishment... In December, the Pentagon used software to monitor the Twitter debate over Bradley Manning’s pre-trial hearing; another program being developed by the Pentagon would design software to create 'sock puppets' on social media outlets [such as Facebook, Twitter and online forums like this one]; and, last year, General William Caldwell, deployed an information operations team under his command that had been trained in psychological operations to influence visiting American politicians to Kabul."


DemandProgress.org asserts that "The NDAA amendment legalizing mass propaganda campaigns would remove all distinction between a hostile foreign audience and American one, turning the massive information operation apparatus within the federal government against its own people." They offer yet another online petition/email campaign to oppose it, but many consider such initiatives to be impotent slacktivism:


Our rapidly accelerating descent into Orwellian police-state fascism will not be stopped or even slowed by signing one online petition or one thousand. And it won't be reversed at the ballot box, because voting either Democrat or Republican keeps the same corporate-controlled oligopoly in power, and voting any other way is at best an act of defiance:


Our only solution is to take to the streets and quickly - before the drones overhead control our every move, and the droning of TVs and flickering of monitors our every thought.



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[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 5 years ago

Hi vvv, Thank you for your effort here. Best regards

[-] 1 points by jart (1186) from New York, NY 5 years ago

If they made propaganda illegal, I'd be arrested mad quick

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 5 years ago

This appears to be the same guy that went on a threatening rant yesterday. I suppose he has stayed within the "letter of the rules" today but he will probably descend into madness again. good luck! I'm trying to ignore his constant harrassment of me. (i'm referring to TransPacificPartnership below)

[-] -2 points by shadzhairart (-357) 5 years ago
[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 5 years ago

marching to protest police state tactics against innocent people is not propaganda in my opinion. There are cracks in the armor that has allowed these excessive violation of our civil rights and we must keep the momentum going. Not criticize our efforts against stop n frisk.


[-] -2 points by shadzhairart (-357) 5 years ago

I never said marching to protest the police state was propaganda. Read the comments I made on that page. Think boy think!

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 5 years ago

my bad. don't like clicking links. a little too suspicious of virus'


[-] -1 points by shadzhairart (-357) 5 years ago

You're suspicious of viruses on this website? Then why do you surf here?

The link above leads to a page on occupywallst.org (in the news section). Look at this page's source code if you doubt that, or simply enter the link manually via your browser's URL bar.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 5 years ago

I already said "my bad". Get a grip. I'm not a pgmr why would look at the source code?

[-] -1 points by shadzhairart (-357) 5 years ago

I'm not a pgmr why would look at the source code?

Because, the writing seen on a link does not necessarily mean that the link goes there. As an example, the link below reads http://www.google.com, but I made it to lead to http://www.apple.com

http://www.google.com (tricked link which leads to apple)

If you are scared to get tricked by links, you can always look at the source code and see what the link actually is.

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 5 years ago

Wow you are so smart! I'm not worthy. So your saying a link can be misleading. That makes my point. Doesn't it?

Looking at source code seems more like something a programmer tech dude might do. I can't even say I know how. More concerned with the issues that hurt the 99% I guess.

[-] -1 points by TransPacificPartnership (8) 5 years ago

You are truly pathetic, "VQkag2".

[-] 0 points by Bnewfield (0) 5 years ago

The view that most Americans hold regarding NDAA is pretty scary. A lot of them have never even heard of it before. I asked one person what he thought of NDAA and he said "I don't know, I don't keep up with conspiracy theory stuff." A law that allows US citizens to be detained by the military and shipped to Guantanamo Bay, and it's a "conspiracy theory?" Now they want to conduct "military operations in cyberspace" (I can see it now: thousands of independent blogs being shut down by the military for alleged terrorist sympathies) and it also paves the way for war with Iran! I guess the transition to a dictatorship will be quite easy if people have attitudes like that. If you don't believe that martial law could happen here, just take a look at http://www.martiallawusa.com. All the proof is there.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 5 years ago

Good Post

[-] 0 points by TransPacificPartnership (8) 5 years ago

Here is another prime example of a partisan propagandist plugging his own posts: