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Forum Post: Mixed messages on freedom of speech.

Posted 11 years ago on Sept. 28, 2012, 6:21 p.m. EST by richardkentgates (3269)
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Obama did the right thing at the UN regarding the Muslim outrage over blasphemy and basically told them to stuff it (good call).

But then, the contradictions. There are now "free speech zones" and "exclusion zones" and all sorts of convoluted bullshit about how when and where to observe the freedom of speech.


There seems to be a trend of demanding respect on a global scale for the American constitution that is not even being observed in the US.

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[-] 2 points by Toba (4) 11 years ago

Go Obama! Yea, man I tell you guys it is so comforting to know that there is someone in the White House that thinks that I should loose my free speech. I am so releaved.

[-] 4 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 11 years ago

It's also so nice to have a president that files and wins an appeal after a judge block indefinite detention laws of American citizens.

How many days has Bradley Manning gone without trial? 846 or something like that.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 years ago

Damn Good Question 'Trev' !! Also : http://www.bradleymanning.org/ ! pax ...

[-] -3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

The authority of indef detention was created by Bush and only used by Bush.. It least this Pres has not used the authority.

Let's protest all pols against indef detention!Let's protest against the atmosFEAR created after repubs exploited the 9/11 attacks.

Only then will we succeed at repealing these constitutional violations.

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 11 years ago

Sorry you must form your response in the form of a question. Your response should have been

  • "Who is Bradley Manning?"

We would have also accepted

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

Free Bradley Manning!

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[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 11 years ago

Go ask that Marine about Freedom of Speech....

No one looks at actions. Just the press release, some soundclips and a few radioactive snipets from the extremes at each end.

300 million people versus 536 clowns. And we are getting our asses handed to us.

[-] -1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 11 years ago

300 million people versus 536 clowns

...ain't that the truth. ^

[-] -3 points by CitizenofAmerika (-71) 11 years ago

And there it is!

[-] -2 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 11 years ago

Ooooh Raaah on that one!!

[-] 0 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 11 years ago

Maybe these "free speech" and "exclusion" zones are part of the new 'political order' that Obama referred to.

[-] -3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

But these concepts were created before Pres Obama took office. Why are you blaming him?

[-] 1 points by JustinDM (251) from Atascadero, CA 11 years ago

cain was the one who created the concept of murder. Dose that mean murders should get a free pass? Wake The Fuck Up!

[-] -2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

No need for vulgarity.

Obviously this is just a anti Obama partisan attack since you neglect to place the blame with the pols/party that created these violations. And if you give the party that uses the fear mongering they created after they exploited the 9/11 attacks you don't really want to resolve the problem.

You only want to beat Pres Obama over the head.

Transparent, simple, unimpressed.

[-] 0 points by bensdad (8977) 11 years ago

Its fun to blame Obama
its easy to blame Obama
scapegoats are natural for lemmings
everything black & white - easy
gray is hard
just ask the nazis or the puritans or jerry falwell or mao

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

They're just a bunch of anti Obama partisans. They never blame the pols/party that created all these problems, and continues to perpetrate the fear mongering environment that facilitates the endless war on terror and the violations they now try to lay on Pres Obamas doorstep.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 11 years ago

Ur right, when someone puts their signature on it, and then appeals the decent guy who tried to overturn it, it is VERY easy to blame that person.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

Why don't you and your friends ever blame the pols/party that created all these problems, and continues to perpetrate the fear mongering environment that facilitates the endless war on terror and the violations they now try to lay on Pres Obamas doorstep.?

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 11 years ago

We do blame them. Obviously. But there is currenly one person at the top of the list. It used to be Bush. Now its Obama.

They could come to him with a bill to completely end SS. If he signs it, then to hell with him.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

Oh and not the guys who wrote it?

I agree with criticism of Pres Obama! We disagree because you & your friends limit your criticizm to only Pre Obama. To ignore the republicans roots and responsibility make it a partisan attack!

Stop! Please! Clearly to pretend 1 politician is responsible for everything is dishonest at worse, ignorant at best.

Transparent, partisan attacks.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 11 years ago

I dont ignore them. That criticism should be a given at this point. An overall given that the entire system is bought out at this point should be a given too.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

We will never undo these profound problems if we do not continually identify the roots of them, the pols/party who created them & how, and the atmosphere/environment that facilitates the continuation.

To limit the criticism to one pol is not a serious attempt to change things, but just an attempt at partisan attacks.

I agree with the criticism of Pres Obamas failures, I also know these problems are bigger than him.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 11 years ago

True, but when Levin speaks in the house and states it was the administration that asked for the removal of the part that would leave Americans out of it, it makes it veryhard to point the finger anywhere else.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

It ain't hard if you are intelligent, and knowledgeable about what we've been through for 11 years.

So 1 obscure statement from a senator you would point to as justification for focusing on 1 pol. But 11 years of actions , evidence, statements, violations, from the party that created all these problems you ignore.

If you really wanted to change the problems you wouldn't provide cover for the pols/party who created them, and continues to perpetuate them.

As if history began in 2009.

Transparent, partisan, political campaigning.