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Posted 8 years ago on July 27, 2012, 5:04 a.m. EST by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR
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Mitt Romney's Pork Barrel Olympics Graft, Tax Havens, Work History, Presidential Disqualifiers! Deal Breakers! DECOY!!!

Harry Reid: Bain Investor Told Me That Mitt Romney 'Didn't Pay Any Taxes For 10 Years'!!!!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/31/harry-reid-romney-taxes_n_1724027.html

The GOP candidate pried $1.5 billion out of the federal government to bankroll his Olympic turnaround. Millions went to questionable projects that benefited well-connected Utahns.

—By Tim Murphy | Thu Jul. 26, 2012 3:00 AM PDT

GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney is in London for the opening ceremonies of the 2012 summer games—part of a three-country world tour designed to build his foreign policy resume and shake down overseas donors. The Romney campaign will run television ads during the games touting the candidate's experience as CEO of the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics, where he was widely credited with turning around the scandal-plagued organizing effort.

What Romney doesn't talk about is how he succeeded in Utah with government help—lots of it—and how millions in assistance that he pried out of the feds ended up bankrolling subsidies, sweetheart deals, and giveaways for land developers and other well-connected Utahns.

As Romney chastises the president for pointing out that successful business ventures benefit from a larger social compact and accuses critics of pining for "free stuff," Romney is simultaneously touting an Olympic effort that, more than any other in American history, succeeded thanks to public investment—some of it sunk into questionable projects of marginal value to the Salt Lake games. "The $1.5 billion in taxpayer dollars that Congress is pouring into Utah is 1.5 times the amount spent by lawmakers to support all seven Olympic Games held in the U.S. since 1904—combined," Donald Barlett and James Steele reported for Sports Illustrated in 2001. Those numbers were adjusted for inflation. Mother Jones 2012 Summer Olympics Coverage

Mitt Romney's Super-Expensive, Federally-Funded Olympics Everything You Wanted to Know About the Romneys' Olympic Horse But Were Afraid to Ask Photos: America's Female Boxers

How the Salt Lake Games came to receive more money than any games in American history isn't much of a mystery. The organizers, including Romney, asked for it. In his 2004 book, Turnaround, Romney acknowledges the central role of the federal government in making the Olympics possible. "No matter how well we did cutting costs and raising revenue, we couldn't have Games without the support of the federal government," he wrote.

Romney emphasized cost-cutting at every step of the process, moving the Salt Lake Organizing Committee's DC office from a swank building next door to the White House, to a cheaper, comparatively Spartan flat next to a burrito shop. But the flow of federal cash continued unabated.

In 2000, with the opening ceremonies still more than a year away, Arizona Sen. John McCain called the Salt Lake price tag "a disgrace," and partnered with Rep. John Dingell (D-Mich.) to demand a Government Accountability Office investigation into how the games could cost so much. Romney's response was muted. As he explained in a letter to the GAO: "Recognizing that our government spends billions of dollars to maintain wartime capability, it is entirely appropriate to invest several hundred millions to promote peace."

In Turnaround, Romney explained that the Salt Lake Olympics would cost more in large part because winter Olympics tend to cost more, by virtue of the fact that they mostly take place on mountains. "We had to construct access roads, widen highways and overpasses, and build a network of massive park-and-ride lots," he wrote. Besides, he explained, Atlanta had already upgraded its infrastructure prior to receiving the Olympic bid; Salt Lake City, on the other hand, was still in the process of improving its roads and transit.

But even some of the more maligned projects, like a new light rail system to be built in Salt Lake City, received Romney's endorsement. Although Romney spends several pages in Turnaround blasting the $326 million project as unnecessary and an example of wasteful "truth stretching" from local governing bodies, he eventually signed on to the Mayor of Salt Lake City's letter to Congress asking for money to build it.

The most damning aspect of the Salt Lake tab wasn't the final amount, but how it was being spent. In their exhaustively researched Sports Illustrated accounting, Barlett and Steele explain how many Olympics projects amounted to little more than slush funds for wealthy donors to the games. Wealthy Utahns used the games as an excuse to receive exemptions for projects that would otherwise never meet environmental standards, or to receive generous subsidies for improvements of questionable value to the games—but with serious value to future real estate developments. In one example, a wealthy developer received $3 million to build a three-mile stretch of road through his resort. Where'd he get the money? Federal funds that had been deposited in the Utah Permanent Community Impact Fund. Per the piece:

The U.S. Treasury collects royalties from mining and petroleum companies that prospect and drill on federal lands, and from individuals and businesses that buy and sell the related leases. The Treasury returns half the payments to the states where the lands are located. States generally distribute the money as grants or loans to those communities that have been socially or economically affected by prospecting or drilling. In Utah this money traditionally has gone to struggling counties to help with public needs, like purchasing a fire truck.

Now the state was going to give $2 million in federal royalties to Summit County—by far the state's richest county, and one in which a majority of the mines closed years ago—and the money would be in the form of an outright grant rather than a loan, even though the fund's rules state that grants can be made "only when the other financing mechanisms cannot be utilized, where no reasonable method of repayment can be identified, or in emergency situations regarding public health and/or safety." On top of that the grant was earmarked for construction of a road that would benefit a private developer.

The $3 million resort road wasn't unique. Snowbasin, the site of the downhill skiing championships in 2002, was one of the more notorious examples of a well-connected Utahn getting a sweetheart deal in the name of the Olympics. Earl Holding, a billionaire oil baron, pressured the Forest Service into giving him title to valuable land in Park Valley in exchange for land of "approximate equal value" elsewhere in the state. But Holding drove a hard bargain; he got Congress to foot the bill for a new—and arguably unnecessary—access road (cost: $15 million), and received more than 10 times the 100 acres that were necessary for the Games. That would allow him to turn what was once protected federal land into a massive, and lucrative, mountain resort.

The government was so instrumental in making the Olympic games happen that Romney created a special award, the "Order of Excellence," to honor public servants who had helped them pull it off. Among the recipients: John Hoagland, the US Forest Service official responsible for the land transfer of the Snowbasin downhill skiing site.

The government largesse, however, has done little to deter Romney from using the 2002 Olympics as an example of cost-cutting purity. "While I was fighting to save the Olympics, you were fighting to save the Bridge to Nowhere," Romney told Rick Santorum at a debate in February.

Maybe they weren't so different after all.

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[-] 4 points by JoeTheFarmer (2654) 8 years ago

I have mixed feelings about the Olympics. I see that the UK just spent 10.8 billion pounds ($17 Billion US dollars) for the event I am watching right now.

On the other hand I am seeing Afghanistan, Russia, Israel, Iran, Palestine, Nigeria, USA, China... all competing together.

Think about this...

$1.5 Billion was spent over 8 years for the Salt Lake Olympics. They built stadiums, transportation, improved roads, improved the airport, and yes I do believe there was some crony capitalism involved.

The 2009 Obama stimulus plan spent over $552 billion in one year. What did we build?

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 8 years ago

We gave $250 billion in small business tax breaks, $250 billion in state aid to keep americans working and/or gettin unemployment benefits.

[-] 2 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

Harry Reid: Bain Investor Told Me That Mitt Romney 'Didn't Pay Any Taxes For 10 Years'

Posted: 07/31/2012 3:46 pm Updated: 07/31/2012 4:47 pm

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Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader, ratcheted up the speculation about Mitt Romney's unreleased tax returns.

WASHINGTON -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has what he says is an informed explanation for why Mitt Romney refuses to release additional tax returns. According a Bain investor, Reid charged, Romney didn't pay any taxes for 10 years.

In a wide-ranging interview with The Huffington Post from his office on Capitol Hill, Reid saved some of his toughest words for the presumptive Republican presidential nominee. Romney couldn't make it through a Senate confirmation process as a mere Cabinet nominee, the majority leader insisted, owing to the opaqueness of his personal finances.

"His poor father must be so embarrassed about his son," Reid said, in reference to George Romney's standard-setting decision to turn over 12 years of tax returns when he ran for president in the late 1960s.

Saying he had "no problem with somebody being really, really wealthy," Reid sat up in his chair a bit before stirring the pot further. A month or so ago, he said, a person who had invested with Bain Capital called his office.

"Harry, he didn't pay any taxes for 10 years," Reid recounted the person as saying.

"He didn't pay taxes for 10 years! Now, do I know that that's true? Well, I'm not certain," said Reid. "But obviously he can't release those tax returns. How would it look?

"You guys have said his wealth is $250 million," Reid went on. "Not a chance in the world. It's a lot more than that. I mean, you do pretty well if you don't pay taxes for 10 years when you're making millions and millions of dollars."

The highest ranked Democrat in Congress, Reid is known more as a back room brawler than a public flamethrower. So his willingness to throw this private conversation into the media frenzy over Romney's taxes underscores the low opinion he has of the Republican candidate.

Tellingly, neither Reid nor his office would reveal who the investor was, making it impossible to verify if the accusation is true. And as his quote makes clear, he's uncertain if the information is accurate. The Romney campaign's press secretary, Andrea Saul, has previously denied rumors that Romney didn't pay "any taxes at all."

But there is limited political downside to the type of open speculation that Reid is making, so long as Romney refuses to budge on the issue of his tax returns. Increasingly, other Democrats are growing more assertive in their goading. In an appearance at the Center for American Progress on Tuesday, former Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland argued that he could openly speculate as to whether Romney "is a tax avoider" or "cheat" because "his behavior invites such speculation."

Romney recently told ABC News that he couldn't recall if there were years when he paid below the 13.9 percent tax rate that he paid in 2010. Although he said he was "happy to go back and look," his campaign declined to do just that.

Asked for a response to Reid's latest comments, Romney campaign adviser Kevin Madden said his candidate had "gone above and beyond the disclosure requirements by releasing two years of personal tax returns in addition to the hundreds of pages of personal financial disclosure documents he has provided to the FEC and made public."

Madden added that it was "troubling and disappointing that Senator Reid would cite Governor Romney's father, George, as part of a personal attack against the governor. We have many substantive disagreements with the senator and his policies, but using insults about a father-son relationship is a step too far."

Reid has jabbed at Romney before. Indeed, during the HuffPost interview, he seemed to revel in the headlines and fallout his attacks have caused.

"It's interesting, my guy from Vegas wrote this. He's a snarky guy, [Las Vegas Sun political reporter] Jon Ralston. He's a center guy. I like Jon just fine, but he's cynical, and I guess that's what serves him well. So he criticizes me for saying that Romney couldn't be elected dogcatcher," Reid recalled.

"My wife said to me -- we don't talk politics very often -- she said, like, 'You shouldn't have said that.' So Stephanie Cutter [President Barack Obama's deputy campaign manager] comes down to talk about politics and outsourcing at my caucus. She said, 'I'm so grateful for Senator Reid, the best remark during the last week, was saying that he couldn't qualify to be dogcatcher.' I could hardly wait to get home to tell my wife."

Reid's assessment about the state of the political landscape didn't end at the borders of the presidential campaign. He spoke optimistically about the prospects of maintaining his role as Senate majority leader, offering up private polling data that he said showed four Democratic senatorial candidates ahead -- Rep. Mazie Hirono up 19 points in Hawaii, Sen. Jon Tester ahead by 5 points in Montana, Rep. Tammy Baldwin up 3 points in Wisconsin, and Elizabeth Warren leading by 4 points in Massachusetts.

"We feel comfortable in the Senate," he said. "Where the problem is, is this: Because of the Citizens United decision, Karl Rove and the Republicans are looking forward to a breakfast the day after the election. They are going to assemble 17 angry old white men for breakfast, some of them will slobber in their food, some will have scrambled eggs, some will have oatmeal, their teeth are gone. But these 17 angry old white men will say, 'Hey, we just bought America. Wasn't so bad. We still have a whole lot of money left.'"

"So that's the only problem we have with our candidates," Reid concluded, suggesting that virtually everything, his leadership position included, could be swept away by outside cash.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/31/harry-reid-romney-taxes_n_1724027.html

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 8 years ago

This is precious. & Romney can't do a damn thing unless he releases the taxes.

LMFAO

Thx

[-] 1 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

Which is why we have to watch the races for Congress and state legislature and Governorships. They'll try to suppress/cheat Twit into the WH, but his main purpose is DECOY!

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 8 years ago

tea bagger gonna win in red TX.. but otherwise Dems poll numbers look good in fla, (stolen 2000) Ohio, (vote suppression 2004), & PA (big vote suppresion effort this year)

I have friends & family in PA campaigning door to door, watching & fighting any signs of cheating. And they claim the base is awake and energized.

Hope it's enough.

[-] 0 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

Listen to Hartman, he suggests poll monitors, etc.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 8 years ago

Poll monitors is advisable. I saw some request for UN election monitors (Wheres Jimme when ya' need him?) certainly we will probably have lawyers/monitors in those swing states/districts. We have before and must do it more.

[-] 0 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

Chic Fil A = Republicon Cult

Randi Rhodes Daily News | http://www.randirhodes.com/main.html

Aug 2, 2012

Yesterday was Chick-fil-A Anti-Gay Day! Sorry if you missed it. You’ll just have to spend today being intolerant on your own. Technically, it was Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, but what the people who showed up really appreciated was just how intolerant Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy is of gay people. I don’t know if a boycott of Chick-fil-A would work. Have you ever noticed how many Tea Party types are morbidly obese? I think Chick-fil-A could thrive on their business alone. For every 10 people who refuse to eat at Chick-fil-A, they can just have one Tea Party person eat 10 times as much from Chick-fil-A. I’m sure there will be plenty of willing volunteers.

Despite yesterday’s show of support from homophobic cholesterol addicts, the Chick-fil-A brand has been damaged... not as much as their customers’ arteries, but still pretty bad. Pretty soon, Chick-fil-A will be totally dependent on a very small but fanatically devoted following—exactly like the Republican Party is. Heck, they’re exactly the same followers! Most Chick-fil-A franchises are in the South. That’s good for them. If you’re depending on having a customer base that’s motivated by intolerance, you’re a lot better off in states where Newt Gingrich did well in the primary.

Yesterday a whole range of Affordable Care Act healthcare provisions for women started to kick in. To Republicans... that’s a day that will live in infamy. GOP Representative Mike Kelly (R-PA) compared the new women’s healthcare provisions to Pearl Harbor and 9/11. Kelly listed off Pearl Harbor Day and 9/11 and said “remember August 1, 2012 — the attack on our religious freedom. That is a date that will live in infamy, along with those other dates.” Sorry Mike, but I don’t think the History Channel will be putting together a retrospective for this one.

Loony GOP Rep. Steven King (R-IA) is making birther statements about Obama being born in Kenya. The shocking thing is that this is the least crazy thing Steven King has said in recent days. Steve has been praising dog fighting and babbling about how it’s legal to impregnate 13-year olds in this country. Having him babble about the President being from Kenya is actually a step forward.

[We can't assume poll monitors are happening. And we can't assume our thick-headed do-nothing, both-same, OWS=anarchy, "friends" are not plants... to incite infighting and inaction.]

[-] 1 points by JoeTheFarmer (2654) 8 years ago

Actually we gave

  1. $297.8 B in tax breaks
  2. $237.8 B in grants, contracts, loans (crony capitalism)
  3. $229 B in entitlements (Paying people to not work)

That's a lot of billions so why are we complaining about 1.5 billion over 8 years to host the olympics.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 8 years ago

Sounds like a great plan. Too bad the repubs watered it down. We might have had a better recovery. But they didn't want that.

We need more of that grants, contracts, loans stuff to get this economy running again. (it's only cronie capitalism when it isn't for repub constituents right?)

And I certainly support the entitlements because that includes the state aid that keeps the police, firefighters, teachers, sanitation workers, and govt office workers at work.

Can't have people losin there jobs during an unemployment crises right?

More stimulus. It's the only way. Vote out anti stimulus politicians

[-] -1 points by JoeTheFarmer (2654) 8 years ago

You do not see the hypocrisy in praising $700B in spending in a post that complains about $1.5B in spending?

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 8 years ago

calling me a hypocrite doesn't change the fact that we need to stimulate the economy. The 1% plutocrats who crashed the economy, lost 40% of our home values, and created an unemployment crises going on 4 years, are not creating jobs.

We must increase middle class consumer demand. We must spend money to cut working/middle class taxes, to ensure that states do not fire any workers (not during an unemployment crises!), to invest in private industry infrastructure & green tech jobs, also we must force banks to cut the cr card/student debt principle of the working/middle class.

We can do this by removing all deductions from the 1% plutocrats! We can cut the debt by implementing a 90% tax rate on the 1% plutocrats who created the debt. We can also do this by cutting military budget by 50% and still be stronger than all our adversaries combined.

Oncethe working/middle class has money again they will consume again. (we got that ingrained in us)

Once middle class consumes agains, demand will increase, the 1% plutocrats will see money below again and the natural mechanism to suck up every penny they see will generate the need to hire.

Oh and we must pass laws that state if you wanna do business in America you gotta hire Americans. That'll solve the unemoployment problem. and the debt problem as well. BANG!

Do that and all will be fine republican boy!

[-] 0 points by JoeTheFarmer (2654) 8 years ago

What is the title of this post?

I think it is more partisan than hypocritical. It is only OK when the folks I like do it. Even if the spend 700 times more.

Then again maybe it is just plain old hypocrisy.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 8 years ago

You brought up the stimulus. In regards to the croneism in the post. I'm against it.

That was easy! And guess what? it happens all the time. Of course the real problem is the unemployment rate. crony capitalism happens in good times and bad. Didn't create this crises.

Get money back into the hands of the middle class and our problems are solved.

[-] 1 points by JoeTheFarmer (2654) 8 years ago

You do realize you are confusing and dodgy,

You say "that was easy" and 'I'm against it" however when I "brought up the stimulus" you said

"Sounds like a great plan. Too bad the repubs watered it down."

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 8 years ago

I'm against crony capitalism which has existed for all time. Businesses love it. It didn't create our problems.

I support stimulus because it has and should include. tax breaks for small business & working class, state aid to retain jobs, investment in improving infrastructure, and future tech jobs.

I'd also like to see it include paying down the working class debt that has prevented the consumer spending/demand we need to kick start economic growth/job creation.

What are you confused about.? crony cap. is a small issue, just another repub talking point distraction. I ain't dodged anything.

Understand?

[-] 1 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

Why do we arrest the poor for stealing a loaf of bread??

IDIOT ABROAD

It's clear Twit is not presidential, we had better make sure the RepubliCons don't steal legislatures state and federal. ON TODAY'S SHOW

On Today's Show

Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Mitt Romney is in Poland. There’s a joke there somewhere... and the joke is Mitt Romney. Mitt visited Poland’s Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. Reporters were shouting questions at Mitt, and complaining because they’ve had virtually no access to ask Romney questions for the entire trip. That’s right—Mitt made this many gaffes without even being asked questions! Mitt’s press aide Rick Gorka literally told reporters “Kiss my ass. This is a holy site for the Polish people. Show some respect.” Classic! “Now can we please have a moment of silence while Governor Romney does the crap you gotta do at a stupid tomb?” I’m relieved things went as well as they did at the Western Wall. I’m glad Rick Gorka didn’t shout “Shaddup you losers! Mitt’s trying to pose by the damned Jew Wall!”

While in Israel, Mitt heaped praise on Israel’s healthcare system. It’s completely state-regulated, universal, and includes an individual mandate. No wonder Mitt Romney loves Israel’s healthcare system—it sounds just like Romneycare. Wait! Romney HATES Romneycare! Mitt pointed out that Israel’s healthcare cost is 8 percent of their GDP, while ours is 18 percent. Hey, maybe that’s because they’re culturally superior to us, just like they are to the Palestinians. Mitt said “We have to find ways, not just to provide health care to more people, but to find ways to finally manage our health care costs.” Mitt, I think you’ve already found ways to manage our healthcare costs—what you did in Massachusetts. The problem is that you have to deny that you ever did it. These statements of Mitt’s about Israel’s healthcare system run completely contrary to everything else Mitt Romney has been saying. How can you tell? For one thing, they’re true.

Mitt, if you get tired of being asked questions about your overseas gaffes, just come home. We’re still waiting here with a bunch of questions about your tax returns. In the only year of tax returns that he deigned to let us see, Mitt paid an effective tax rate of 13.9 percent. When asked if there were years he paid less than that, Mitt said “I haven’t calculated that.” I guess Mitt didn’t calculate specific percentages. He just looked at his taxes and knew that they were really, really low. Mitt wants you to think he doesn’t know what tax rate he was paying. There is only one reason Mitt Romney says that he doesn’t know something—and that’s if he really doesn’t want you to know it.

Read more: http://www.randirhodes.com/main.html#ixzz22FYpsGnG

[-] 1 points by fiftyfourforty (1077) from New York, NY 8 years ago

http://www.recovery.gov/Pages/default.aspx

I know that the Brooklyn Bridge is getting a much needed and overdue makeover that will mean it's a lot safer a span to drive across.

[-] 1 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

President proposes and Congress disposes: Obama should have asked for more and I believe he did, but Congress only spent what they did to plug the giant gaping hole Republicon Bush left in our economy! Probably the most important thing the stimulus did was save millions of lives (we know you Cons don't give a shit about that) from the devastation of abject poverty and the mutilation of military action conducted on the starving masses attacking the rich!!

People, do you want to get your way from government for a change??? GET OUT THE VOTE!!! Turn out a 90% and watch what happens!!! We will get the government that the 1% is enjoying by design!! Quit being manipulated!! VOTE!!!

[-] 0 points by JoeTheFarmer (2654) 8 years ago

Obama had two years with a 72% Democrat House and 57% Democrat Senate.

Those are bullshit excuses.

[-] 1 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

Bull Shit RepubliCon talking points and You Know IT!!!

Liebermans and Blue Dogs on a one point advantage don't make a operational (anti-RepubliCon Taliban Insurgency) majority. Yet Dems and Obama succeeded to make many great reforms, like the ACA!!! Despite treasonous RepubliCon sabotage!!!

People, do you want to get your way from government for a change??? GET OUT THE VOTE!!! Turn out a 90% and watch what happens!!! We will get the government that the 1% is enjoying by design!! Quit being manipulated!! VOTE!!!

[-] 2 points by fairforall (279) 8 years ago

The olympics were held by the US, so why would anyone think federal funds wouldn't be used? The olympics were held in Utah, so why would anyone think Utah companies and resources wouldn't be used and respectively benefit?

[-] 1 points by DanielBarton (1345) 8 years ago

they want to think that it was suppose to be self funded or some bullshit i know the Olympic games in Chicago would of cost a lot but built beautiful areas and cleaned up the mess.

They cost a lot for the government but the cities that get the games benefit extremely well with the surplus of tourism

[-] 0 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

Graft and fraud!! for two.

The Olympics are a private sector endeavor/enterprise.

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 8 years ago

and then he offended England

[-] 1 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

Who is our biggest ally in the bogus war on terror.

When the good guys have only a 40% turnout, they have very little leverage in exacting change.

President proposes and Congress disposes: Obama should have asked for more and I believe he did, but Congress only spent what they did to plug the giant gaping hole Republicon Bush left in our economy! Probably the most important thing the stimulus did was save millions of lives (we know you Cons don't give a shit about that) from the devastation of abject poverty and the mutilation of military action conducted on the starving masses attacking the rich!!

People, do you want to get your way from government for a change??? GET OUT THE VOTE!!! Turn out a 90% and watch what happens!!! We will get the government that the 1% is enjoying by design!! Quit being manipulated!! VOTE!!!

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 8 years ago

Are you just going around copying and pasting this? I've read this reply 3 times now.

Also i have never voted for a republican. So your theory that I am a "con" is not only absurd but it lacks a factual basis. Do you think anarchists are "cons" because they don't vote for Obama?

I do not support any candidates with a violent foreign policy. Which means "Fuck Bush! Fuck Romney! and Fuck Obama too!"

We need democrats that represent peace like Dennis Kucinich.

[-] -1 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

They're useless if they can't get elected, hold office and coalesce a majority. Cons do it with money and fraud, Dems need Votes. When we didn't show up, Big $ did. Until we start showing up to Vote, good progressives like Kucinich and Grayson will continue to be overwhelmed by Big $. Wake UP!! Get out the VOTE!!

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 8 years ago

Good dems need votes I agree with that.

Pro-war dems that voted to repeal Glass Steagall need to go along with the repubs.

Speak out against all those that work for the 1%.

[-] 0 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

They're called Blue Dog Dems or DINOs.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

He's known as "Tit Romney" round my neck o' the woods !!!

caveat ...

[-] 1 points by fairforall (279) 8 years ago

good point. another positive.

[-] 2 points by commonsense11 (195) 8 years ago

Interesting. Now why don't you tell us all about Obama's stimulus package that included tax breaks for the makers of toy wooden arrows and rum importers? You see corruption knows no limits and crosses both parties. You guys crack me up with you finger pointing trying to blame one man or one party when clearly they are all corrupt.

[-] -1 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

Pettifigging!!

You're the joke, exceptions don't make the rule.

Where are Obama's tax havens??

[-] 1 points by commonsense11 (195) 8 years ago

As far as tax havens go this is a problem with the law and congress. The loop holes are there so they and their buddies can take advantage of them. I say clean house and get rid of all of them. The fact is they are all (including Obama) corrupt. It's a shame that this eludes the idealistic minds of those that just don't have a clue.

[-] 0 points by zoom6000 (430) from St Petersburg, FL 8 years ago

overseas money (Jews & the Queen) will go to his Swiss bank account

[-] 2 points by fairforall (279) 8 years ago

you hate jews and gays?

[-] 1 points by zoom6000 (430) from St Petersburg, FL 8 years ago

No I don`t

[-] 1 points by fairforall (279) 8 years ago

then the point of noting "jews and queens" was for what purpose?

[-] 1 points by zoom6000 (430) from St Petersburg, FL 8 years ago

I am stating Fact., every time people see the word Jews they get irritated

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 8 years ago

corrupt plutocrat that he is.!

[-] 0 points by JusticeF0rTrayvon (-58) 8 years ago

Yep.

Both of the despicable freaks running for office have wasted billions of the public's money, and I hope neither of them gets elected.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

the election is already fixed

[-] -2 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

Drop in the oceans compared to what Wall Street and Banksters have stolen!!! Aided and abetted by their RepubliCon servants!!

[-] 2 points by JusticeF0rTrayvon (-58) 8 years ago

You realize their on in the same, right? Both the candidates are just stooges of Wall Street.

[-] 0 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

That's what Wall Street wants us to believe!!! Citizens United is their expensive guarantee!!

[-] 0 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

"Barclays told to stop fundraising for Mitt Romney - Barclays Bank has been accused of fundraising for political candidates instead of working to rebuild the public's trust in banks following the Libor-setting scandal." :

fiat lux ...

[-] 0 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

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July 27, 2012 The Problem with “Mitt the Twit”: He’s a Wazzock

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Day three of his world tour, day one of the Olympics, and things aren’t getting much better for our boy Willard. Having been monstered by Fleet Street for his criticisms of the preparations for the Games, contradicted by the Prime Minister, and ridiculed by the mayor of London, the Mittster is now facing criticism from one of his own nation’s greatest athletes, the sprinter Carl Lewis.

“Every Olympics is ready,” Lewis, who won nine gold medals at four different Olympics, told the Independent. “I don’t care whatever [Romney] said. I swear, sometimes I think some Americans shouldn’t leave the country. Are you kidding me, stay home if you don’t know what to say.”

A chastened Romney evidently agrees with Lewis about London being prepared. Retreating from his earlier remarks faster than a burglar who has stepped on a sleeping Pit Bull, he said to Brian Williams on NBC’s “Today” show: “After being here a couple days, it looks like London is ready…. I’m absolutely convinced that the people here are ready for the Games. In just a few minutes, all the things politicians say will get swept away because athletes will take the stage.”

If you think that smacks of wishful thinking, you aren’t alone. In Britain, at least, Romney’s ungracious remarks and his apparent obliviousness to how they would be taken have turned him into a laughing stock. In its Friday edition, the Sun, Britain’s best-selling newspaper, labelled him “Mitt the Twit.” It may not be entirely coincidental that the Sun is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who has recently been busy denouncing Romney on Twitter. But other British papers have been equally critical of Romney, including the conservative ones that are apt to be sympathetic to Republicans. A columnist at the Daily Telegraph—a.k.a. The Torygraph—called him a “wazzock,” a term of abuse that I hadn’t heard since my childhood in Leeds, West Yorkshire.

According to some accounts, a wazzock, in the original usage, was a bull’s penis. When I was young, it was used to describe a hapless idiot who blunders around doing and saying things he or she shouldn’t. Wazzocks don’t necessarily have bad intentions, but they tend to bring trouble to themselves and others. Romney, for all his business success and Harvard degrees, sometimes seems to fit the description. Clearly, he didn’t mean to insult his British hosts when he sat down with Brian Williams on Wednesday. But didn’t he think about how his words would be taken?

Evidently not. The whole thing is another reminder of why the Romney campaign keeps such tight reins on the candidate. Despite his four years in elected office in Massachusetts and his experience in two Presidential campaigns, he still lacks the political antennae of a lifelong politician. The true pol is a master of what game theorists refer to as “backward induction.” Before doing or saying anything, a filtering mechanism in his (or her) brain looks ahead and figures out how it is going to look in tomorrow’s newspapers. For somebody like John Boehner or Chuck Schumer, it no longer takes any conscious effort. The filtering mechanism works automatically, ensuring that the voice box serves up nothing but pablum and political attack lines.

Romney just doesn’t have this self-preservation instinct. He is still naïve or arrogant enough to think that when Brian Williams asks him a seemingly harmless question about the preparations for the Games, which have certainly encountered some problems, it is an opportunity for him to demonstrate his mastery of the subject. A regular pol would say something like: “Well, Brian, we all know that staging an Olympics is a massive task. Recently, our British friends have been encountering some issues with security and transportation arrangements, but I’m sure they’ll work things out, and that once the Games start they’ll be a resounding success.”

But that wasn’t good enough for Mitt. Instead, he said, “There are a few things that were disconcerting. The stories about the private security firm not having enough people, the supposed strike of the immigration and customs officials—that obviously is not something which is encouraging.” Adding insult to injury, he also appeared to question whether the British people were behind the Games, saying, “Do they come together and celebrate the Olympic moment? And that’s something which we only find out once the Games actually begin.”

Small wonder, then, that when Boris Johnson, London’s voluble Conservative mayor, took the stage in Hyde Park on Thursday night, at a ceremony to mark the arrival of the Olympic torch, he openly mocked the G.O.P. candidate before a crowd of more than fifty thousand:

People are coming from around the world and they’re seeing us. They are seeing the greatest city in the world! There are some people who are coming from around the world who don’t yet know about all the preprations we’ve done to get London ready in the last seven years. I hear there’s a guy called Mitt Romney who wants to know whether we’re ready—he wants to know whether we are ready. Are we ready? Yes we are! The venues are ready; the stadium is ready; the aquatic centre is ready; the velodrome is ready; the security is ready; the police are ready; the transport system is ready; and the Team G.B. athletes are ready. They are going win more gold and silver and bronze medals than you’d need to bail out Spain and Greece together.

At the end of the ceremony, Johnson led the crowd in a chant that brought to mind one of Obama’s campaign slogans from 2008.

“Can we put on the greatest Olympics games that have ever been held?” “Yes we can!” “Can we beat France?” “Yes we can!” “Can we beat Australia? “Yes we can!”

It was just as well Romney wasn’t there. By coincidence, he was just across the park, attending a fund-raiser packed with people who are almost as unpopular in the U.K. as he is: investment bankers, hedge-fund managers, and private-equity executives. This whole trip has turned into a disaster. At this stage, about the best Romney can hope for is that something goes wrong at this evening’s opening ceremony or during the events that follow. A chaotic London Olympiad is about the only thing that could make him look more like a savant than a wazzock.

For the moment, though, a wazzock it is.

See our full coverage of the Games at The Olympic Scene.

Photograph by Ben Stansall/AFP/Getty Images. Keywords

2012 Olympics

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[-] 0 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

Perhaps they get their cookies from 7-11. Will they ever be ready for the Olympics?? At least their Trees are all the right height!

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

Mittens Romulan is in London (HQ of Global Financial Crime) to shmooze and reassure The Bankster Criminals that he is indeed 'One Of THEM' !!!

His credentials are well established from 'Bain Capital' !!

Not sure what any of your comment means but thanx anyway !

fiat justitia ...

[-] 1 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

I see. Test drive before the road trip. Prudence in action.

Will Romney get to demonstrate his Mormon fel'latrix Cardinalian status?

and perhaps a suspiciously 7-11 cookie afterwards?

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

"Twit Romney" is how he's now known across The UK !!!

Am still unsure about your late night shopping quandary !!

verum ex absurdo ...

[-] 0 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

On a campaign stop Twit was served some homemade cookies, he then proceeded to ask if they were 7-11 cookies.

maximus twiti ...

[-] -1 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

Where's your tax returns, Romney?

Are your Tax Havens to good the Share?

[-] -1 points by Porkie (-255) 8 years ago

At least he had a job.

[-] 1 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

If the great USA is going to have an impressive world leader, who could ask for more that Mitt "Tax Haven" Romney, "Are these 7-11 cookies?"

[-] 1 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

And what a great job!!!

Corporate Raider!!

Job Buster!! Tax Evader!!

Hitler had a job, too!!

And your poor little point is what?

[-] -2 points by Porkie (-255) 8 years ago

Listen, I was working at twelve; my son started working full time at the age of fourteen; neither one of us is unintelligent or uneducated and we are not poverty stricken. On the other hand, there is no need to explain "poverty" - we've lived it. And along the way we've learned a few things: first and foremost that the working class people of America care about but three or four things - jobs (including employer provided benefits), job opportunity, taxes, and some relative future prosperity. We've also learned that virtually everybody in America is "working class" - from the street cleaner to the heart surgeon, everybody "works."

And it's vital that people "work" so that they may gain some understanding of not only what is truly of value but also of what sustains life.

Our current economic path is "unsustainable"; what that means is that it is going to STOP.

Nobody in Federal government seems to understand that; nobody in this forum understands that - while you rail against corruption you ask for ever more... it's a really irrational mentality.

I'm voting for Romney in the hope of a benevolent dictator because we're going to need one.

[-] 1 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

Are you an honest person?

Why would a working stiff think that of all people Romney feels your pain? Why would you want his corporations-are-people ass in the White House? Are you a corporation? Is this "really rational mentality"?

How would you know if someone understood work and the economy? I'm on this board, if you think I don't know work and the economy you'd be dead wrong. The sabotaging and hostage-taking RepubliCons in Congress have held jobs hostage and sabotaged the economy because they totally understand that working Americans will get mad and blame the President.

And our forefathers established a democracy in America because they had enough with dictator Kings.

I don't think you are honest, rational or understand anything you addressed.

[-] -2 points by Porkie (-255) 8 years ago

Have you never heard the word "corporatocracy"? Because that's what this is and it's not a case of the actions of one neutralizing those of the other - both parties court the lobbyists, both parties work for the corporation; we have a Congress that is totally dysfunctional, a Supreme Court that has determined that constitutionality is but political whim... Corporate imperialism empowered by Free Trade marches on... Americans lose jobs; local economies completely tank... and you're under the misguided impression that a simple raise in the minimum wage will somehow compensate for the perpetual poverty of their now demeaning employment in the New Nation of Retail.

You don't have a clue... that's my point.

[-] 1 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

President proposes and Congress disposes: Obama should have asked for more and I believe he did, but Congress only spent what they did to plug the giant gaping hole Republicon Bush left in our economy! Probably the most important thing the stimulus did was save millions of lives (we know you Cons don't give a shit about that) from the devastation of abject poverty and the mutilation of military action conducted on the starving masses attacking the rich!!

People, do you want to get your way from government for a change??? GET OUT THE VOTE!!! Turn out a 90% and watch what happens!!! We will get the government that the 1% is enjoying by design!! Quit being manipulated!! VOTE!!!

[-] -1 points by Porkie (-255) 8 years ago

But again, you don't have a clue... the Cons were actively promoting the bailouts and stimulus because we don't want to see investment lost. But we don't think tax dollars should be used merely to buy votes or to promote a political agenda. For 3 trillion in debt we could have made every American a millionaire... ended all poverty... and that's the way conservatives think; we want a fiscal responsibility that is apolitical and makes sense.

[-] 0 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/07/28/opinion/macintosh-mitt-business/index.html?iid=article_sidebar

The Cons aided and abetted the economic disaster (which gambled and lost taxpayer funds and treasure in every conceivable form) and promoted bailouts and stimuli aiding and abetting the biggest bank heist in world history by their Big $ employers. Sorta like a giant Romney-Bain corporate raid and plunder! A blatant class warfare triumph as they simply hoard the plunderage in Twit Romney tax havens. Which is why we don't want Romney or Cons anywhere near government in DC or the states!

http://myesoteric.hubpages.com/hub/A-Relook-at-Why-Stimulus-Work-When-Used-At-the-Appropriate-Time

Get out the Vote! We have a whole lot of dirty Con tricks to make up for!!

[-] 0 points by Porkie (-255) 8 years ago

I've never met anyone on Wall Street that was not a Democrat.

[-] -1 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

Good 4 U!!

[-] 0 points by Porkie (-255) 8 years ago

The entire financial world is Democrat and yet you blame Romneyians.

[-] 0 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

Yes, and Hitler was a good christian.

You think you have a point, but you don't... have a point.

What you have is noggin crammed full of RW talking points which are completely racist, bigoted, erroneous, anti-science, anti-democratic, authoritarian, dishonest and hateful! You've listened to too much Limbaugh and friends.

Try shock therapy and a good reeducation retreat and see if that offers you any relief from your awful condition. Good luck.

[-] 0 points by Porkie (-255) 8 years ago

The Congressional Republican who grows wealthy selling legislation is selling to the Democrat; I have never met anyone of wealth outside of politics who was not a Democrat. It's a wolf in sheep's clothing and a pretty snappy dresser, too. (And that's why the majority vote Republican.)

Hitler does not grant an impression of good Catholic, let alone good Christian, and he was a lousy Judeo-Christian (has there ever been a "Judeo-Christian," outside of politics - "conversos" yes, Judeo-Christians, no).

[-] 0 points by Porkie (-255) 8 years ago

PS, below: birds of a feather... turn down the Tupac and get off the pipe; I've never met a crackwhore that wasn't a Democrat, either.

[-] 0 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

So then you are a closet pedophile and open racist, cuz I have never met anyone of Zombie, 1% Cult-Worship faith who was not.

But still...

Try shock therapy and a good reeducation retreat and see if that offers you any relief from your awful condition. Good luck.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

Then you are voting the wrong way.

You should be all about supporting these folks.

They're attempting to do something VERY un-Romney like.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/07/27/Bill-would-raise-minimum-wage/UPI-37051343415991/?spt=hs&or=tn

[-] 1 points by Porkie (-255) 8 years ago

I assume then you work for the corporations that have outsourced our labor, only to re-import those resources as a more competitive product; you seek to appease the poverty stricken, is that correct? This is exactly what I'm talking about; raising the minimum wage does nothing more than appease the unskilled, uneducated, of food prep services and retail - we want these people angry as hell - we want our jobs back - because only with skilled labor can Americans buy their way out of poverty.

And... I really, really, think Pelosi is probably the least qualified to either lead or advise, anywhere in the entire world of Western politics.

[-] 0 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

Does shit kill a brain? You are full of shit, and I also believe that you are brain dead. It probably doesn't hurt, it's just the way it is with you, right?

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

Actually, that would be Romney and Boehner.

Last guy I met that got one of those "skilled jobs" educations, wound up working at a gas station, when they still shipped his job overseas..

You should get out more.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

Wow he was lucky to get employment as many employers might say - you are overqualified you won't be happy here sorry no job for you.

[-] 0 points by Porkie (-255) 8 years ago

You can't get a skilled labor "education," this is strictly OJT.

Less than 50% of the people in this country are capable of a college education, of those only the top 10-15% are truly worthy of that education.

America needs its skilled labor positions; a nation of retailers is but a universal poverty, even with annual increases in the minimum wage.

You're just another corporate stooge, trying to appease the poor for the loss of that opportunity which created our middle class.

Not only do YOU need to get out more but you should not be advising people of the future direction of this country - you are unqualified; and I rest my case.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

You never had a case.

How does supporting a raise in the minimum wage, equate to being a corporate stooge?

This answer should be comic gold, so I await your "answer" with bated breath..

[-] 1 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

Hands off! I want that shit!!

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

Have at him.

He doesn't actually respond to what was said anyway.

[-] 1 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

He thinks free trade actually exists, how quaint... and ignorant!!

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

Libe(R)tarians actually believe in the "free market" illusion.

They believe in the "invisible hand".

The reality is much too difficult for them..........:)

[-] 1 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

They are merely Big $ zombies!

Get out the Vote people! The cretins are feeding and breeding!!

[-] -2 points by Porkie (-255) 8 years ago

The answer is Free Trade; the American worker strives to rein in Free Trade and retain those skilled labor positions that our Congress is very actively selling in exchange for contributions and future sinecures.

We've turned American labor into stock boys, store clerks, and cashiers in the New Nation of Retail. To appease labor, the Corporation buys a higher wage in retail while simultaneously promoting a food stamp diet.

Companies further profit on the diet...

And Walmart monopolizes the retail, driving even the local retailer out of business.

You are an unwitting accomplice, a corporate stooge, drinking the cool aid of corrupt governance.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

You should talk to Mittster Bean about that.

He and his propensity to ship good jobs overseas for his own profit.

[-] 1 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

What he said is roiling around in my head, like the mass can return machine's bin when none of the cans fit the slots. They seem like really good cans but the machine won't take them. What voodoo is this?

"Sinecures" voodoo! This smells like Krauthammer!! Or maybe Will. Latest buzz word in RW TPs! but I'm not finding it now. later

[-] -1 points by Porkie (-255) 8 years ago

Oh maybe... but I'd prefer to discus it face to face with Clinton, Obama, and this Congress.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

I get it, just skip "right" over Reagan and the Bushs.

They were innocent by standers.

[-] 0 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

Is the "case" what you call your head? Cute?

You have stats, where did you get such good information?? I want to get that kind of information, too. Interested in the appeasement of the poor.

[-] -1 points by JusticeF0rTrayvon (-58) 8 years ago

Was the skilled job education one of those "Siberian literature of the middle ages" degrees?

Because yeah, a ton of people are finding out the hard way that those skills, somehow, aren't as marketable as they thought...

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

Computer science and programing.

I've met a few who ended up on an auto assembly line too.

Why is it you always assume the same lame shit they pass on Limbaugh and FLAKESnews?

Are you admitting to being a flake?

Because you sure sound like one when you parrot that shit.

[-] -1 points by JusticeF0rTrayvon (-58) 8 years ago

Have you explored the possibility that he can get a job, just not as high of a pay scale as he wants?

Sometimes being on unemployment is more fun.

Anything beats forming a start-up or whatever.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

How many pay cuts have you accepted so far?

This is by far your lamest attempt at this yet.

You act like a salesman who can't go off script.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

not enough need or money going around to demand them

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

Guys like Romney shipped those jobs to India and the Philippines.

You can't even get into tech support anymore.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

no

those jobs were automated away

it's the efficiency of human invention

trouble is capital resource left very few owning most of the resources

.

It's not jobs we need anyway

but a fairer distribution of services and goods

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

Most of those kinds of tech jobs, weren't automated, they were shipped out for lower labor and admin costs.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

I think Hong Kong and China may have created those tech jobs themselves with their own technology

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

Whatever, these guys got themselves the education they were told was the future and wound up in gas stations and on assembly lines.

Plus they had to pay for a useless education.

That was my original point, that they didn't get a degree in "Siberian literature", although they might as well have.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

my MS in physics helps make me clever, interesting and useful

[-] -2 points by NS88 (-23) 8 years ago

Okay. But what about the liberal god Obama? All college transcripts sealed and unreported. His SSN number is from Connecticut. Is he such a powerful god to you liberal fuckheads that you have abandoned ALL self honesty?

[-] -1 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

You have it wrong, Dems/libs/progs aren't organized and only worship truth, justice and the American way (which includes democracy). It's you RepubliCon freaks who engage in Cult-Worship of Big $ as you did with the King of England, in the plutocracy you strive for today.

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[-] -2 points by Shule (2638) 8 years ago

Why is Mitt campaigning in foreign countries, and lobbying foreign governments? I thought the election was in the U.S.A.?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

He's demonstrating his foreign policy prowess, on his way to visit his money in Switzerland............:)

England alerady considers him worse at it than Palin.

I didn't think that was possible, but I must have underestimated the (R)epelican'ts propensity for BAD government.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

CorpoRATs and CorpoRATists are everywhere - perhaps he is looking for more inanimate/false/artificial/people money that is somehow OK to be donated by foreign entities to an American election process.

[-] -1 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

Get with it man!

It's the new high in low for RepubliCon dirty dealing. Get foreign money baby!! It buys just as many Votes as Koch Brother money, and it's twice as secret!!

[-] 0 points by Shule (2638) 8 years ago

Oh yeh, now I get it. Its all about the money. Who needs the American people when you got the money......

On my knees, on my knees, on my knees Too bad I don't get as much as Romney (or Obama) gets..

[-] 0 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

President proposes and Congress disposes: Obama should have asked for more and I believe he did, but Congress only spent what they did to plug the giant gaping hole Republicon Bush left in our economy! Probably the most important thing the stimulus did was save millions of lives (we know you Cons don't give a shit about that) from the devastation of abject poverty and the mutilation of military action conducted on the starving masses attacking the rich!!

People, do you want to get your way from government for a change??? GET OUT THE VOTE!!! Turn out a 90% and watch what happens!!! We will get the government that the 1% is enjoying by design!! Quit being manipulated!! VOTE!!!

[-] 1 points by Shule (2638) 8 years ago

Instead of giving it to the banks, why didn't they just give the money directly to the folks being foreclosed on? That way the people would have made out by getting out from under a debt, and the banks would have still made out 'cause they'd get the money owed to them; no foreclosure and no default.

[-] 0 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 8 years ago

Because mere homeowners don't have lobbyists! Banksters do!