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Posted 11 years ago on March 27, 2012, 9:26 p.m. EST by Nevada1 (5843)
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[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"Healthcare Parasites are Sucking Americans Dry"!

Consider: "The only way to deal with parasites is to remove them from their host. It’s time to expand Medicare to All Americans so that we can dislodge these healthcare parasites from our body politic."

ad iudicium?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"Nearly One in Five Americans are in Collections for Medical Debt" by TH & an alternate^link:

fiat justitia ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"Democrats Propose Medicare for a Few More Instead of Demanding Medicare for All"! - by Ana Malinow:

cave - anguis in herba!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 months ago

Your ER docs & maybe your PCP owned by Black Rock, Vanguard, State Street & other companies like them - what could go wrong?!!! USA needs a redesign of the whole system!! Read this and explain; how U$A's Medical-Industrial Complex is not a totally broken system?!

"The corporatization of health care has changed the practice of medicine ... causing many physicians to feel alienated from their work."

fiat lux et caveat actor!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

"'Jane Roe' from ‘Roe vs. Wade’ - Was Paid To Change Her Mind On Abortion!" by Meredith Blake:

"Norma McCorvey, also known as 'Jane Roe,' says she was paid to be an anti-abortion activist in a new documentary filmed before her death."

respice; adspice; prospice ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago


''“The host list speaks for itself,” said Wendell Potter, president of Business Initiative for Health Policy. “This event wasn’t about fixing the health care system. It was about protecting the health care industry, no matter the cost to patients, families, workers, or employers.”

“The industry is the root cause of our health care crisis. A congressional staffer serious about finding solutions wouldn’t touch that retreat with a 10-foot pole,” he added.''

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

''Insurers Are Bankrupting Patients by Charging Unexpectedly for Preapproved Care"! .. by Lauren Weber:


[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

"Medicare for All is even better than you thought''by Tim Higginbotham:

From which, note ''Previous estimates suggested that Medicare for All would save $2 trillion. But it's even better .. a new study finds that Bernie Sanders's bill would save $5.1 trillion — while providing universal, comprehensive coverage.''

fiat lux!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

''CoronaVirus Makes Case For Medicare-for-All'' by Helaine Olen:

ad iudicium?

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23745) 3 years ago

Non-insured put us all at risk when it comes to Coronavirus.


Tweet from Anand Giridharadas:

"Coronavirus makes clear what has been true all along. Your health is as safe as that of the worst-insured, worst-cared-for person in your society. It will be decided by the height of the floor, not the ceiling."

I absolutely agree with that point!

Unfortunately, I can't open Washington Post articles unless I pay! but yes I also agree that Coronavirus shows that we all need coverage and we're at risk of disease by folks who don't have coverage and therefore can't afford treatment.

It's like this. We don't want to live in a society where any kids never go to school right? So why do we want to live in a society where anyone has health that isn't cared for?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

Consider: ''National Nurses United Issues Grave Warning on Coronavirus'' .. by Nicole Karlis:

"Coronavirus makes clear what has been true all along. Your health is as safe as that of the worst-insured, worst-cared-for person in your society. It will be decided by the height of the floor - not the ceiling" says Anand Giridharadas & - OF COURSE you "absolutely agree with that point", because rationality & compassion are the basis of your reasoning! Also by AG, please also try to consider ...

et veritas vos liberabit!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23745) 3 years ago

All Covid 19 medical bills should be covered through Medicare immediately.

Fact Sheet on Uninsured in America:


Some insurance companies are waiving deductibles and co-insurance. Tell me what this does for the uninsured? Absolutely nothing.


[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

''Since 1975, while the U.S. population has risen from 216 million people to 331 million - the total number of hospital beds has declined from 1.5 million to 925,000'' and - ''United States currently has only 2.8 hospital beds per 1,000 residents .. just a little over half the average of 5.4 beds per 1,000 residents in other wealthy countries''!!! - from ...


[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

"Democrats are doing exactly what insurance companies want - by expanding COBRA. We need Medicare For All Now!"* from ...

cave - anguis in herba!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23745) 3 years ago

Unemployed can't afford COBRA.

We have never needed Medicare For All more than right now. This pandemic has exposed all the cracks in our system.

Such a stupid idea to think that when a person becomes unemployed they suddenly have MORE money to spend on the full premium of their health insurance which COBRA allows employers to charge 102% of the full premium. It's madness. It's corporate. It's uncaring. It's greedy. It negates any kind of social contract.



"...the national average (monthly) unemployment insurance benefit is $1,278, but the average COBRA premium for family coverage absorbs about 84 percent of those funds, or $1,069."

Why do people accept such poor governance. Is it not frickin' obvious that someone getting $1,278 in Unemployment payments per month CANNOT afford a health insurance premium of $1,069?

We have a General Welfare clause in our Constitution that hold our government responsible for protecting just that, our general welfare.

COBRA and the for-profit health industry does not do that. Only with Medicare For All where every single person on this soil is covered is our basic human right to healthcare met.

And, this is the fault of both Republicans and Democrats.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

Yes, "We have a General Welfare Clause in our Constitution that hold our government responsible for protecting just that, our general welfare'' .. but there's been a rolling, on going RW conspiracy in U$A to deprive The 99% of their alleged "inalienable rights"!!! U are not ''free'' if U are constantly worried about illness, injury, childbirth and end of life - bankrupting U and your family, FFS!! Wake TF up U$A! + FYI...

fiat justitia - ruat caelum!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23745) 3 years ago

Trump wants to cut the payroll tax instead of giving Americans another payment of $1200. This is silly because a payroll tax cut will only go to people who are employed. People who are employed are still being paid. Why would they need MORE money?

There is something evil behind this and that is the potential of defunding Social Security.


[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 3 years ago

Employers pay half of the payroll tax. That's the real reason Trump wants a payroll tax cut--to enrich the employers and of course, kill the funding source of Medicare, Social Security, etc. so that the elderly, sick, disabled, or retired workers can feel it.

It's time to take the Pb out of the Plumber to get lumer. We still have so much lead plumbing carrying drinking water in the U.S. that I suspect that our people are made violent and brain-damaged from the daily doses of lead. Our coal-fired electricity-generating power plants are vaporizing mercury ( "clean coal" is actually an oxymoron; have you ever seen what is done at a coal-fired power plant? Dad abhorred his back-breaking coal-shoveling job in his youth as it was extremely hot and grimy there, and he had to "sweat out pigshit" for a surge of ship engine power better suited for oil-fired engines to evade and escape from the U-boat wolf pack--his ship was sunk and the British convoy sped off, leaving only the attacking wolf to rescue the mauled and dying sheep, per the Geneva Conventions--Nazi German soldiers regarded the Russians as being subhuman because Russia under Stalin, the Redfuckpenis, had failed to sign up to adhere to the Geneva Conventions which Adolf Hitler had actually signed up to adhere to initially, though not for the non-adherent combatant countries such as Russia, until things got really ugly later on, especially with Imperial Japan's invasions of many countries, including the U.S.A; of course, we have already mechanized that shoveling by now but still the pace and scale of an operation is such that neither the mountains of coal can be scrubbed well enough to prevent environmental pollution nor is there good long-term storage for the massive quantity of the toxic fly ash which sometimes breaks out into rivers, lakes, bays, sea, or ocean { cooling is a major requirement for all heat-generating-and-heat-being-primary-energy-product power plants, nuclear or not, so all of them are situated near a source or large body of water--Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, Fukushima, etc. are all near water without us even having to look them up in an atlas } ) an extremely potent neurotoxin if the mercury is methylated by industry, ( at least as early as 1950s' in Minamata, Japan ) or the environment, to medicate our people daily via their drinking water. Trump loves to emulate that Japanese victim of finacialization obviously, by environmental deregulation in order to "work together" as a duet with his Japanese idol. After all, "they will still vote for [him]" even if he shoots [at] somebody on Fifth Avenue. Toadstools are poisonous, I believe, but I still need to consult the cigar licker(s) to verify that. Yes, some toadstools are killers. Others are as droopy as soggy bean sprouts but they are holy because they have been circumcised.

After having learnt from my primary/elementary school about seeds, I watered some soybeans and hid them away in darkness for many days. I got a terribly stinky mess so if you get soggy sprouts, you've done well. Mom told me that I should have changed the water every day.

While some can walk on clouds, others can stride upon water. If you were rained down as a water droplet upon our Continental Divide near Rocky Mountain National Park and flowed into Grand Lake, to where would you want to flow? towards California/Mexico into the Pacific Ocean or towards Louisiana into the Gulf of Mexico? High near a windswept desert-like treeless cut-flat mountain top there, I had walked through a cemetery neighboring a gigantic tailing pile before a storm came through. I was sampling the dates etched into the tombstones. I was very surprised that many people died so young back then: a 19-year-old woman, a 10-year-old kid, etc. Only later after having retreated quickly from the fierce lightnings and thunderstorm did I realize that the death dates were all in the influenza-pandemic years 1918-1919 !!!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

''Nurses on Front Lines of Coronavirus Pandemic Demand Medicare for All''! - by Amy Goodman & Juan González,of "Democracy Now! (video):

CDC budget is 1.5% of ''Defense Budget'' but wtf good is that IF US can't 'defend' itself from COVID-19?

ad iudicium?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

“US Lags On Corona-Virus Testing and .. Medical Experts Warn that ... “'No One Is Immune'”!

verb. sat. sap.?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

Alas, "Racism explains why the country lacks the safety net that its citizens deserve" from:

et veritias vos liberabit ...

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

"22 studies agree: 'Medicare for All' saves money"! by Diane Archer:

"No matter how you design a single-payer public health insurance system .. it would have lower overall health care costs, so long as the for-profit private health insurers no longer exist to drive up health care costs. Yes, it is true that some other wealthy countries rely on “private insurers” to provide benefits and spend far less than we do on care. But, these insurers do not operate in any way like health insurers in the U.S.

"Other wealthy countries dictate virtually all elements of the Health Insurance people receive - including what is covered, what’s paid, and people’s out-of-pocket costs — all identical for everyone. The insurers operate like claims processors or bill payers. They follow the coverage and payment rules set by central government - nothing like the private health insurers in the U.S.A., which revel in product diversity (read: complexity and confusion)."

ad iudicium ...

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23745) 3 years ago

Missouri voted to expand Medicaid.


Considering that 69% of Americans are for Medicare For All, it's hard to believe how our leaders fail us on this issue over and over again.


Covid has exposed the weaknesses. Now we must demand the fixes. Bravo to Missouri for voting to increase coverage. It's a start.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

Consider "For Profit Healthcare used to be illegal"! by Gary St. Lawrence:


multum in parvo!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23745) 3 years ago

No one should profit from health.

Healthcare should be universal, single payer and not-for-profit.

Defund the military, fund healthcare. Problem solved.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"'Outrageous': 46 Million Americans Say They Would Not Be Able to Afford Healthcare If They Needed It"!

And NB "The American model of health reform—throwing money at private insurers—cannot solve it."

fiat justitia ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"Prescription Drugs in US are Quadruple what they cost elsewhere, report finds" by S. Zhang:

radix omnium malorem est ... ?!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23745) 2 years ago

Bernie is big pharma's worst nightmare.

"Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) would like you to know the American pharmaceutical industry is still ripping people off — and he plans to do something about that. This week, Sanders introduced a trio of bills designed to help the United States get a grip on the price we pay for prescription drugs. (Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) is the lead sponsor in the House.) These bills would, if enacted, put an end to the gouging of the American public by permitting Medicare to negotiate drug prices, by pegging the price of pharmaceuticals to the median price in five comparable countries — Britain, Canada, France, Germany and Japan — and by allowing Americans to import drugs legally from Canada and other major countries."


Pharmaceuticals are just part of the story as to why Americans can't afford healthcare, but this combined with making Medicare more inclusive by lowering the age to 55 and then lower and lower over time until it includes everyone are steps in the right direction.

Thank you, Bernie Sanders for never giving up!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

"Trump rallies responsible for 30,000 infections & 700 deaths - Stanford Study" - by Matthew Chapman:

multum in parvo ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23745) 2 years ago

Insulin in the U.S. $373, $47 in France.

Here's a tweet from good ole' Bernie Sanders who never stops fighting for us:

"The monthly price of:

Insulin: $373 in the U.S. $47 in France

Januvia for diabetes: $331 in the U.S. $39 in Germany

Advair for asthma: $310 in the U.S. $29 in Australia

Our job: End the greed, collusion and price-fixing of the pharmaceutical industry and lower drug prices."


[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 3 years ago

Defunding the military cannot be done in isolation. Been there. Done that. It landed the U.S. in even hotter water than before.

Defunding the military gradually commensurate with the reduction of threats is feasible. It was how the U.S. had achieved, together with Canada, the longest largely undefended border in the world. The U.S. border with Mexico wasn't without both sides' regular military forces jousting, either. Why does the U.S. have the state called New Mexico? It was a part of the Spanish Empire's Mexico.

The U.S. doesn't have any major threats on its land borders. That's why the U.S. has the "license to roam" worldwide carried by its global military forces. Our situation differs greatly from Rustia or Redfuckgina. The situation is especially bad for the soon-to-be-surrounded-by-many-hostile-nuclear-armed-neighbors Redfuckgina which seems to be a spider spinning its own web using sticky silk only.

The U.S. saved Mexico from the scourge of the financial crisis sloshing around the world in the late 1990s. The U.S. also helped Mexico gain its independence from the Spanish Empire. There were raids between the U.S. and the Canadians early on near the U.S. breakaway from the British Empire but the animosity had subsided over the centuries. One of the reasons why George Washington supported breaking away from the British Empire was due to his being discriminated against by the British military during his incursions into Canada during the French-Indian War. Subsequently, France became absolutely instrumental in helping U.S. break away from the British Empire so the U.S. didn't hold much grudge against the French speakers next door in Canada who were also discriminated against by the British Empire. Both sides fought each other but both recognized that it was the British from across the Atlantic Ocean which caused the animosity. The British also recognized that they indeed had a somewhat-crazy king so they let it be. The British Royalty definitely had a problem with inbreeding, as were many other European Royalties. "Spreading the wealth" is an innate very successful strategy to attaining healthy offspring. It's built in biologically that "keeping the wealth within the bloodline" tends to get one and one's family punished in the form of one's inbred and diseased offspring.

If we want to fund healthcare, we can do it anytime now as it has already been proven that trillions upon trillions of dollars can be and has been created out of thin air without a U.S. dollar collapse. I say that it's only possible because we still have the greatest global military in the world which inspires credibility. The true wealth of the U.S. isn't its military but the military is necessary to enforce contractual terms and protect our true wealth--innovations and all of their accoutrement. ( The U.S. always seems to live in "interesting times," definitely not "boring" but ¿crazy? yeah... "as long as I get some happy news from the girl who sang the blues." )

Everyone should get the benefit of health. As I've been saying for quite a while already, "guns or butter" is an unnecessary dichotomy. "Guns and butter" is more like what the U.S. can achieve. Guns first because it's the only thing that the hellish countries will respect and understand so that their dictators can be handed over as needed from time to time to their own people for justice. Be neutral but not aloof or alone. The calling of the U.S. is to be a peacemaker and neighbor.

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 3 years ago

The U.S. must beat ¡Uganda! to providing free sanitary pads to schoolgirls. It's humiliating for young girls having to wear open-crotch pants before they are allowed to pee upon their Pootinium-clad chamber pots. I wouldn't mind extending that Medicare-for-All benefit to our Fogies ( Moscow-Night Mitch Pechblendenvogel ) whether on the Potomac and Mar-a-Lago or москва. A Volga investigation may well be in order. Depend(R) works!

"I think it’s easier to parent in Germany. We have heavily subsidized childcare, especially from age 2 1/2 and up, parental leave is long, sick leave if you OR your child is ill, and every child, rich or poor, gets a child allowance from birth through the end of their formal education or age 26, whichever comes first. It’s around $190 / month and is to help out with the cost of raising a child. Also, ALL Rx medicines for kids are free."

If Germany has such good support for parenting, why hadn't the German people produce enough babies to replenish its population so that Germany didn't need to import so many immigrants from war-torn countries? All immigrants come with at least some preloaded software, some of which may or may not be compatible with the predominant locally used software suite. A country cannot replenish its own disappearing culture en masse using readily available and cheap foreign imports. Cultural drift may overcome the inevitable cultural conflicts but it's a slow learning process. I coped with many different cultures and my way of "resolving" the conflicts is to adopt different mindsets and look at the issues from the cultural practitioners' viewpoints. If enough of one's mind's eye is shut off or opened ( i.e. by understanding and observing cultural jurisdictions, a shutting is an opening or vice versa or both depending on one's viewpoint and enlightenment level ) the cultural incompatibilities can become non-issues. "Cows eat grass" so "beef eaters are grass eaters" and they may therefore become compatible with the enlightened vegans who can in their faith, subscribe to, "All meat is grass." It seems to lead to philosophical indifference but it does yield peace of mind as well as the peace arising from tolerance. Most cultures are inherently incompatible ( e.g. smoking is frowned upon in the U.S. because of "it's my [lungs/Bible/guns/castle/..]" which a smoker is polluting with carcinogens but in France or China it's viewed differently; American kids found it to be a shock that smoking was so ubiquitous and permitted in so many places in France { in elevators/lifts, hotels, toilettes } or China { streets, restaurants }; they also found Mainlander Chinese talk with exceptionally loud voices { due to densely packed population perhaps, so as to increase signal-to-noise ratio to achieve successful communication } and feared being run down while crossing the streets because the Mainlander Chinese drivers didn't yield to pedestrians, especially while they were making turns; also the public discharge/elimination of various bodily exhausts: nasal secretion, boogers, sputum, urine, feces.. grossed them out; in France, they were annoyed that they had to pay a 3--<=€ uro to do these in private; in the U.S.A. many public and [privately owned]business places provide these services without charging--having to pay up in € presents an "emergency" for a "culturally illiterate" American kid who is overseas and not even aware of the existence of any "breakthrough" culture of wearing open-crotch pants ! my Dad who sang the praise of the "carrying-no-gun" Bobbies wearing "the Crown" on their hats was almost arrested for pissing in the U.S. in a place with a WTF-locked-for-security toilet where a Bobbie would probably just pass quietly by, not even batting an eyelash; dogs have more pissing right in the U.S. than people do ! ) with others if one holds fast to all of each one but introducing flexibility to them enables them to coexist peacefully in harmonious complementarity. Generally speaking, a good way to achieve harmony is to learn the language and culture first, then observe what the majority do, and emulate to avoid any unnecessary conflict. "When in Rome, [largely] do as the Romans do [to show them respect]." As my Dad had shown before, formal schooling is not essential ( and practically impossible for the scores of countries in his lifetime ) but a sense of humor certainly helps ( there will be embarrassing cross-cultural incidents but people tend to be easygoing regarding honest bumbling efforts trying to fit in ).

One way that the Chinese Communist Party ( the CCP ) had provided for people to fit in is to make them sign Non-Disclosure Agreements ( NDAs ). All of [our] U.S. intelligence officials need to be made to sign a Non-Dislosure-to-Congress Agreement modeled upon the CCP NDA to fit in, in order to safeguard the national security of Trumpanzia. According to quantum physics' fundamental rule, if Joseph Maguire could tell apart which one of the two alternatives of whether or not Russia is interfering again in the runup to the U.S. Election in November of this year 2020 has occurred, the interference between the two alternative events disappeared.

Orange-utan's forebear was reportedly an asylum seeker from the "Black Forest" über-militaristic tree cutters so I guess that Atlantis granted the bonobo the status of refugee ( in the fairly illustrious company of refugees such as: Albert Einstein, Leó Szilárd, Enrico Fermi, Madeleine Jana Korbel Albright, Nikola Tesla, Sergey Mikhaylovich Brin, John von Neumann, Theodore von Kármán, Edward Teller, etc.) Escaping from war-torn and über-militaristic countries that destroy habitats ( e.g. of arctic hares, owls, bears, penguins, and foxes ) is an ancient tradition and necessity so every other country should play its part to help out with the displaced critters and their posterity.

According to my reckoning, all human beings are squatters on my ancestral land, seas, and oceans and should therefore be concentrated into Antarctica and confined there ( probably defying the wish of my Grandpa, though ). Human beings will learn from the emperor penguins how to live in a colony, take care of the chicks, and survive through the winters.

With the COVID-19 wave tunneling across country boundaries, what's the U.S. preparing to avoid the stovepiping and the lack of clear chain of command and consciousness that allowed the 9/11 attacks to succeed? Both the FBI and the NSA had intelligence about the upcoming attacks. There were in fact actual prior short-notice ( in days, not weeks, not hours ) warnings which had been sent out asking for U.S. entities to brace for attacks.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 11 years ago

important petition

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

''AOC askes pharma exec why a life-saving HIV drug that costs nearly $2,000 in the U.S. but $8 in Australia'' ...

Where's the sense of righteous outrage in USA now? Say NO to: 'Land of the twee & home of the slave'!

fiat justitia...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

Consider "When Your Doctor is also a Lobbyist: Inside the War Over Surprise Medical Bills"!

et spero meliora!

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23745) 3 years ago

How to alleviate psychic pain on a national and individual level:

Medicare For All

Imagine how well you'd sleep at night, how light you would feel every day, if you knew that you, your children and grandchildren would have care for their health forever, no questions asked.

Medicare For All would decrease our stress levels and give us a freedom we never had before.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

Indeed "psychic pain on a national and individual level" would be alleviated by ''Medicare For All''! But...

et per ardua ad astra!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23745) 3 years ago

30 million w/o healthcare is like the entire country of Canada not having healthcare. It's not okay and no Democrat should argue that it is okay and the way it has to be.

From truthout article: "Although community health centers are among the nation’s first responders during an outbreak of disease, clinics nationwide are currently staring over a fiscal cliff. On May 22, a stopgap measure temporarily extending federal funding for community health centers expires. If lawmakers do not act before this deadline, crucial public health services could disappear during an outbreak of a potentially deadly disease."

I am truly worried that the poorest areas will be the worst hit by Covid-19.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

For sure ''the poorest ... will be the worst hit by Covid-19'' & please consider this disturbing link..

et caveat!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

''Coronavirus Will Spread Faster Because We Lack Universal Health Care'' by Joel Segal & Harvey Wasserman:

Which ends: "In the face of a recession caused by massive supply-chain disruption, the U.S. central bank has shown itself to be impotent. Congress needs to take a lesson from Japan, and modify U.S. banking law to allow it to work with the central bank in getting the wheels of production turning again. The next time the country’s largest banks become insolvent, rather than bailing banks out, Congress should nationalize them. The Banks could then be used to fund infrastructure and other government projects to stimulate the economy, following China’s model." as Capital/Social-ism .... is NOT a Zero Sum Game Simplistic Binary ... just like the Chinese Govt. & People realize, but will USA get it too?!

fiat lux!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

''Under pressure, Trump admin. opens door to mobilizing Medicaid to fight Corona Virus'':

et spero meliora ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

"How the CoronaVirus Takes Over Your Body (Before You Ever Even Feel It!)" .. by Jeff Wise:


[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

''What Issues Will Uninsured People Face with Testing and Treatment for COVID-19?'' by Jennifer Tolbert:

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23745) 3 years ago

Americans are losing health insurance by the millions each week. 3.3 million lost their jobs last week and many of those will be unable to afford to pay the COBRA bills to continue the insurance.

From: https://www.kff.org/uninsured/fact-sheet/what-issues-will-uninsured-people-face-with-testing-and-treatment-for-covid-19/

"People who are uninsured will likely face unique barriers accessing COVID-19 testing and treatment services. Over half of the uninsured do not have a usual place to go when they need medical care, and one in five uninsured adults in 2018 went without needed medical care due to cost"

To sum up, many uninsured will die. They'll die because they won't seek care. They'll die because if they do seek care, they'll be turned away.

This is moral turpitude as expressed by the USA and we're all responsible. None are off the hook.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

Yes - ''many uninsured will die. They'll die because they won't seek care. They'll die because if they do seek care, they'll be turned away. This is moral turpitude as expressed by the USA'' but just how are U responsible for that?! I've always strongly resisted this, ''It's All Our Fault'' kind of thinking from the very beginning of OWS - precisely because from my PoV, it is both factually untrue & because I believe The 00.1% & their 1% lackeys hide behind the ''If it's everyone's fault, then it's no one's fault'' smokescreen. DON'T LET THE FKRS OFF THE HOOK! Blame, Name & Shame (+ Maim?) them! Just sayin' and, fyi:

ad iudicium?

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23745) 3 years ago

10 million are now unemployed. How many of them have lost their health insurance? And, we still have Democrats pushing a nominee who is against Medicare For All.

Bernie Sanders is right about Medicare For All. And, COVID19 proves him right even more. Our disjointed, fragmented healthcare system is an absolute wreck right now as Noam Chomsky has pointed out:

"The U.S.’s privatized for-profit health care system had long been an international scandal, with twice the per capita expenses of other developed societies and some of the worst outcomes. Neoliberal doctrine struck another blow, introducing business measures of efficiency: just-on-time service with no fat in the system. Any disruption and the system collapses. Much the same is true of the fragile global economic order forged on neoliberal principles."

We are finding out that our entire societal structure is built on a foundation of quicksand.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

Alas, "ill discipline, ignorance and incompetence, nutty religiousness and - racism,'' are ...

But most of all, folk will die due to the criminal & uncivilized lack of M4A; the lack of which is very connected to these 2 links ...

Re."nutty religiousness": https://twitter.com/TheBirmingham6/status/1246606963720491011 !!!

et veritas vos liberabit ...