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Forum Post: marijuana---a path to a green economy?

Posted 1 year ago on Nov. 16, 2012, 1:04 a.m. EST by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN
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the side effects of marijuana legalization maybe a kick start to small business and the green economy. the revenues generated by marijuana entrepreneurs is likely to be reinvested into other small businesses and since marijuana aficionado's represent a huge market of cultural creatives and ethical consumers it only makes sense they will purchase more ethical goods and start more ethical businesses thus the green revolution will spark the green revolution. not only that but with legalization will come increased use so that more people are consuming marijuana and thus realizing the government and the system are completely corrupt. now if we could just get them to legalize psychedelics.

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[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

Crack downs on Medical Marijuana has increased over the years. I'm guessing there will be arrests and closings of recreational marijuana businesses.

Sadly the federal government does not give fucks about state laws or how the constitution works.

They had a constitutional amendment back in the day to ban alcohol and a constitutional amendment back in the day to legalize it again.

Then they tell you it's almost impossible to get a constitutional amendment to cut super pacs and campaign financing.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (26606) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

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Psychedelics?????

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Associating smokable drugs with hemp is exactly what the freaks want you to do.

There is no connection between the two crops.

Who are you working for, exactly?

[-] 1 points by ivyquinn (167) 1 year ago

It would be nice to see us advance in that direction. However, CO & WA, were anomalies in the consciousness of the machine as a whole.

Act local! bring attention to this issue today.

[-] 1 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 1 year ago

i think its pretty obvious they were the first dominos because 2 more states just introduced legislation to legalize.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

The 1st anomalies in the continuing trend towards total legalization.

It's comin. Can come faster if we get in the street and protest.

[-] 1 points by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL 1 year ago

Fed law trumps state law. If the Feds decide to enforce against these two states then it is game over. BUT, if more and more states get on the bandwagon and legalizize pot at the state level, at some point the Feds might have to give up, because they have limited resources and could not likely enforce against pot once a certain number of states legalize it. So it is a numbers game at this point. Interesting to watch as events unfold. Maine could be next.

[-] 1 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 1 year ago

how exactly is the game over are federal troops going to come in and start busting people? i dont think so. they could do raids like cali but thats it.

[-] 1 points by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL 1 year ago

Game over in the sense that they would sue to get the legality of it overturned, thus forcing those states back to enforcement, as well as federal busts of "legal" distribution centers, etc. As I said, it will be interesting to watch how this unfolds over the next few months.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/10/colorado-washington-pot_n_2109400.html

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

He never come back from Copperhead road.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhMO9azmKNU

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Agreed. We will force the Feds to relent and pass a national legalization bill if we protest in the streets enough.

Didn't Maine approve medical marijuana?

[-] 1 points by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL 1 year ago

I think I read somewhere that they were considering making recreational use legal. I could be wrong.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

That will be the most difficult thing to achieve. If there is enough protest perhaps. But personally I think the Fed effort will have to come after we have more progressives and less conservatives in congress.

One day.

[-] 1 points by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL 1 year ago

Agreed.

[-] 1 points by NVPHIL (664) 1 year ago

And that doesn't even count what can be done with hemp.

[-] 1 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 1 year ago

i know!!!! plants being illegal is plain dumb i can't wait to put cannibus in a permaculture garden!

[-] 1 points by NVPHIL (664) 1 year ago

The fact that MJ is considered a schedule 1 drug will be what causes it to become legal. People start questioning why we are so harsh against a harmless herb and you eventually get what happened in WA and CO.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

We gotta get in the street and protest for what we want.

This is worthy, but I like job creation, tax/debt cuts for the 99%, & higher wages more.

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[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (26606) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

smoking pot does not make ethical consumers.

Truth.

Ethical consumption would necessarily mean buying - only - from legal sources. All other sources ( criminal ) being boycotted.

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[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (26606) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

One that needs to be faced and addressed - properly.

[-] 0 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 1 year ago

who smokes the trash compactor cartel weed??? we are talking high grade. kush, haze, blueberry, sour d. not that crap. and yes it is a value changing drug sorry you don't agree but it doesn't make it any less true i challenge you to smoke a joint of kush and then to argue war is ok. it can't be done.

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[-] 1 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 1 year ago

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[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (26606) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Yes - POT SMOKERS - UNITE - BOYCOTT POT FROM SOUTH OF THE BORDER - DO NOT SMOKE BLOOD POT. TO BUY IT IS TO SUPPORT THE KILLING.

It is the same as buying Blood Diamonds.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (26606) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

POT SMOKERS - UNITE

DO NOT SMOKE BLOOD POT

TO BUY IT IS TO SUPPORT THE KILLING.

To Boycott it - is to send a real message - stop the killing assholes.

Deny prosperity to killers.

You want the right to smoke pot? Work to make it legal - it should - after all - be a matter of personal choice.

BUT DO NOT SUPPORT KILLERS SOUTH OF THE BORDER - BECAUSE YOU WANT SOME LEAF TO SMOKE

[-] 1 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 1 year ago

its george carlin calling it like it is. perhaps you should watch.

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[-] 0 points by Saesneg (-166) from Linwood, NJ 1 year ago

Uhh... no, anything but green - we're talking agri-land, water, and one helluva cloud of smoke. We're talking tobacco all over again. And as sin taxes rise, it'll be but a hop to better THC highs through chemical creations. I can picture it now - the mega corporations will move in to eliminate the little guy and buy the legislation that outlaws all forms of competition.

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

We should make everything illegal then, right?

Wait... what are you talking about?

[-] 1 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 1 year ago

you are wrong high grade marijuana can not be grown like tobacco. perhaps a company will mass produce mid grade sensimilla but it wont be the same.

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

nobody wants mid-grade anyway

[-] 0 points by Saesneg (-166) from Linwood, NJ 1 year ago

Well... even so, if we force the out the cartels, we both grow and invite the corporations.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

We are only interested in growing hemp. Screw the cartels.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

You won't be able to avoid them. They will just flip. We won't be able to eradicate them.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6616) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

cannabis does supply a lot of cash to the cartels, the fear of the government now is that production of high grade cannabis would become very cheap, consider saffron, I was in a store and saw some at $15/gm, (now that was a very good prices but still), high grade medical cannabis is about that now, saffron is very hard to produce, cannabis is not, the cartels would feel it for sure, but controlling production will be almost impossible…

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Medical grade cannabis is in oil form, right? For ingestion, rather than smoking?

I'm guessing that a distillation process is required, and while that is not difficult to set up, the street demand will still be for smokable weed, rather than purified hash oil or putty.

There was a steady supply of hashish when I was a kid, but you'd rarely see it these days. I hear that it is still available in England, moreso than weed. I can't verify that, though.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (26606) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Medical marijuana comes in all of its forms - pills, oil, bakery items, candy and of course smoke-able.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

I remember reading somewhere that prior to the propaganda campaign against hemp, many a children's candy was laced with hashish to "calm down" the kids.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

wow, how Ironic that a solution to hyper kids (natural) was chucked for big pharma solutions with side effects like, depression, suicides, violence, aggression, adolescent crime, and ppor school performance... or potential side effects...

Pretty sure I'm killing myself with alcohol while prohibited from marijuanna.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

That's sad. I take it that you're not in one of the states that just decrimed the herb? I was just reading this rather interesting article on Colorado's usage patterns back in 2010. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/27/business/27pot.html?pagewanted=all

On the drugs they are giving kids these days, I'm figuring that the herb isn't actually addictive, so the docs are pushing speed on the kids to get them hooked from an early age. Big pharma are simply the same greedy criminals in white coats.

I'm wondering if, after decriminalising the herb, whether it would be an offense to lace a cake or a batch of cookies with the herb, to share with your children.

I've worked with a German family, and the kids get to drink one can of full-strength beer with meals. The parents said that it calms them down.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

No, I don't think this state will legalize or decriminalize. I suspect this state produces some of the hard core state troopers we like to avoid. Actually there must be some history here of Cattle Barons or something ...becaue there is a real undercurrent of control and Patriarchy.

Reconsidering the issue I've had some bad infuences in my teen years. But in Europe wine is served with dinner to the kids. I don't think German, French, Italian, Spanish, or any other kids have been harmed by this practice.

Yes, in the US, Kids are protected by the Law. And many Employers would start screening for Marijuanna I believe. Any kind of job around kids... any government job ...and transportation job ...any job around heavy equipment or machinery ... any shop etc.

Wow that is a long article. Lot there to learn.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Lots of screening for dope here.

Was just reading in the paper how there's a growing online industry for fake urine that mine workers are substituting on their tests. There's also a push for testing for those on unemployment benefits. Can't see that happening, myself.

I was working as a sole contractor at a gold mine, and management conducted a room search while everyone was at work. Evey second room had dope in the fridge, and they called the search off halfway through.

Ended up costing management a lot of money because the union wouldn't allow mass sackings, so all those workers had to be housed in the nearest town, and bussed in and out every day.

On that article, it seems a little biased, but maybe it gives an insight into how the system would work after legalising it. I know we had doctor-shoppers here who would just be lining up for more prescription pills, and the doctors themselves didn't really care.

There's a national register now, so that users get caught out, along with doctors who are abusing the system.

I really don't understand it, myself. I avoid paracetamol, and distrust anti-biotics. I do like a good cold beer, but I can't get a script for that. hehehe

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (26606) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

In the middle east? In the USA - back in the way back of time ( well really 1800's ) a home remedy for colicky kids was a tablespoon of blackberry brandy.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

I was reading mostly American books about the history of dope. My mother recalls the time when you could get hashish chewing gum. Hell, you could buy a tube of Bex powder for pennies, and that included a dose of cocaine.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (26606) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Well I know some about the early days of accepted cocaine use ( Coke it's the real thing ) - I am not familiar with hashish use in the olden days - opium was popular in some areas during the gr8 train days.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6616) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

perhaps in India, it has a long tradition there

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6616) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

18 states have MMJ it's not a matter of will be anymore

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

It's sin semilla (without seed) and yes, it cannot be grown broadacre.

[-] -1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

The individual producer will never be destroyed. Just as the individual bootleggers will never be destroyed.

Don't be afraid, don't be so negative.

[-] 0 points by Saesneg (-166) from Linwood, NJ 1 year ago

Oh yea? And when was the last time you had a go at farming? And if you think this new cash crop is going to save America, geeez...

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Never farmed. Irrelevant (my personal experience unrelated). Individual pot producers will Never be stopped. And no I don't think it "save America" Never said it never would.

Next

[-] -2 points by Saesneg (-166) from Linwood, NJ 1 year ago

Half the country is high as we speak... I'm just saying that expanding agriculture in the form of a new cash crop is not the answer to economic strife.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

It WILL help the economy! And it will hurt org crime. And it will help all the young people unnecessarily caught in life ending legal trouble

[-] -1 points by Saesneg (-166) from Linwood, NJ 1 year ago

You need to listen to yourself - nobody cares whether weed is cultivated and inhaled, or legal or illegal - nobody cares - except those that are high. And we can't all go through life high.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I disagree.

[-] -1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I bet hostess wouldn't have liquidated if we legalized Marijuana a year ago?

LOL. Kidding. I agree! get the profit out of the underground/organized crime. And put it to good use.