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Forum Post: Looks like with the Dems out of the way the Keystone pipeway will be built.

Posted 9 years ago on Jan. 5, 2015, 5:14 a.m. EST by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ
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"The Republican-led Senate already is teeing up an early challenge to President Barack Obama on the Keystone XL oil pipeline, which the administration has delayed repeatedly. A bill that would approve construction of the pipeline should easily pass a Republican-led Senate with some Democratic votes, though it probably will fall short of the two-thirds majority that would be needed to override a likely veto. Republicans will hold 54 of the 100 Senate seats in the 114th Congress, which convenes on Tuesday."

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-01-04/mcconnell-outlines-coming-republican-senate-agenda

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[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

get in the car and drive top the protest

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 9 years ago

Do you think Republicans listen to protest? The people voted they want Keystone, I don't, but most do so I guess we will get it, if the people want something different they will go to the polls and say so.

generally if my electric bike don't get there I don't go there

[-] 0 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 9 years ago

from: http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/01/republicans-have-lost-their-window-keystone-xl-pipeline

Republicans Are Picking Exactly the Wrong Time to Push for the Keystone XL Pipeline

—By Kevin Drum| Mon Jan. 5, 2015 10:15 AM EST

The New York Times tells us what to expect when Congress reconvenes this week:

Republicans hope to strike early with measures that are known to have bipartisan support. The House is set to pass legislation this week expediting the Keystone XL pipeline; the Senate is making it the first order of business as well. The House will also take up a measure that would change the new health care law’s definition of full-time workers to those working 40 hours rather than the current 30 hours — another proposal that has drawn backing from Republicans and Democrats in the House and Senate.

....Mr. Obama, who will embark this week on a series of policy-related trips in advance of the State of the Union address on Jan. 20, says he is open to working with the Republican Congress but draws the line at unraveling some of his major domestic initiatives, particularly on health care, Wall Street restrictions and the environment. The Keystone XL pipeline bill could present him with an immediate decision about starting the year with a veto, and Senate Democrats are confident they could sustain one.

I wonder how big a deal the Keystone XL pipeline is these days? It won't come on line for years, so current conditions shouldn't logically affect anything. But the world doesn't operate according to logic, and at the moment the world is awash in oil. Prices have plunged, OPEC is engaged in a production war, and gasoline is selling for two bucks a gallon. Does the American public really care very much right now about a pipeline that makes it easier for Canadians to ship their oil to Japan via the Gulf of Mexico?

I'm not sure, but I suspect Republicans may be choosing the wrong moment to take a stand on Keystone XL. Democrats can probably hold it up in the Senate without paying any real price, and even if they can't, Obama can veto it without paying any real price. It's lost its salience for the time being.

I suppose it's too late for Republicans to change their plans, but they'd probably be better off picking other fights. Changes to Obamacare could spark battles they're able to profit from. Keystone XL probably won't.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 9 years ago

the Keystone means a lot of money to key people, 2 buck gas will melt the planet nothing to be done really Nader killed the planet in 2000 when his ego became the most important thing in the world to him, hard to say what could be done if we were to reduce the power of the wealthy but with America electing the most Republicans in history there will only be increasing wealth inequality for the foreseeable future, and frankly the current trend is such that what the people want or protest about won't matter much longer, I guess i'm saying with things as bad as it is and as easy as it is to see the GOP support of the rich and yet we elect more of them it seems little reason for hope

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

too late nader kills doom speak

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 9 years ago

http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1cMnM-UJ5U

what Nader did has been done again and still folks like you look to repeat, for the planet though the game is over now just a matter of how quick it's done, the new Congress free of Dem interference should move us right along....you must be proud of that

[-] 0 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 9 years ago

Sad but most likely true. There will be no attempt to pipe around environmentally sensitive areas. The pipeline will run directly through them.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 9 years ago

"environmentally sensitive area" like the Earth...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8310) from Phoenix, AZ 9 years ago

didn't have fracking back then, we are in new territory now

http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

didn't have termites when horsetail left coal deposits in layered earth.