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Forum Post: "Let Them Eat Covid!" (says Politicians to Us)

Posted 6 months ago on March 23, 2020, 6:57 p.m. EST by elf3 (4187)
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Disclaimer This is in reference to Let Them Eat Cake - not a call to expose anyone to the virus (but then that would be obvious to anyone with a brain cell but you know just in case I guess it's come to this). I know the TPTB love to search for ways to classify Occupy as terrorism. Because protest is now - seen as sketchy in our nation apparently before Covid. And now since we can't even gather more so which is easy to forget since the working class is still out and about working and still not used to quarantine. Careful Occupy suggesting to protest - could inadvertently land us in jail as of yesterday since gathering would be exposing others to the virus. So no dragging our sick dying bodies (as miraculous a feat as this would be) to camp out on white house or senator lawns so they can see us die - this is considered terrorism - even said in sarcasm. Do not gather in protest or even suggest anything in sarcasm or not. But lets get it straight no assholes sneezing or coughing on people most definitely are not part of this movement or affiliated more likely they are loser jackasses lacking empathy or care for their fellow humans which is the exact opposite of what this movement stands for. Since we are limited ot our forum and TPTB monitoring it for loopholes to AstroTurf us, arrest, or prevent us from seeming like rational passionate and concerned empathic people trying to get our voices heard. And since those monitoring do not speak sarcasm be very careful what we write. Since free speech is dead and the laws on it are literally changing overnight.

We have seen how Trump reacts to reporters, truth and opposition. He takes it personally and I'm sure we are a personal thorn in his side. The Toddler in Chief treats and talks to reporters like disdained ex-wives just asking polite questions - so imagine what he thinks of this.

So to continue...I think we are still in a free country so: Now that we have it clear we will not recommend for us to gather in protest:

Our psychotically narcissistic President whining about all the money he lost running for president and the things rich people have to deal with. Then don't run! We'd all be better off!!!!! EAT THE ENTITLED RICH SCUM OF THIS NATION. (disclaimer: not literally definitely not literally) although I'd almost enjoy being arrested for being the first person in history suggesting to eat the rich to get arrested for that - other than the whole hassle of it. (Has it really come to this?) Just in case - please do not literally eat the rich. My husband is out working in this and rich scum are ordering wine and zappos. Quote (while pointing) "Um no that goes around back" (from behind the screen door of their house in the snottiest demeanor possible). Others receiving their hordes of toilet paper "YEAHHH baby!"

Meanwhile he has been ordered to work 6 days a week possibly 7 down the pike (his regular days are 12 hours). No pay for time off if he gets sick because you have to actually prove you have Covid to get it.(with those tests you can't get access to).

His co-workers are working sick as dogs and don't know if they have it and are being threatened with their jobs. Many of them have little children, babies, and children with health problems who rely on the insurance they will lose even if they get paid - because they have to work so many days a week to keep it. They are almost guaranteed to bring this home to their families and spread it all over the place.

And in order to get any type of benefits I guarantee that will be the same for everyone.... but guess what no tests anywhere!!!

Another friend is working in a grocery store with a serious autoimmune disorder and can't leave because you know being homeless with an autoimmune disorder and no insurance would be worse. If he gets it - he dies.

The language and transcript is designed to screw the commoners. Paid time off BUT only "If you test positive for Covid". (i.e.Goodluck finding the test - suckers!)

The rich in this country have become so disgustingly entitled and evil it is sickening. They all have a small fake home business designed to maximize tax loopholes on top of their property income and cushy jobs and they are all happily on the take for their extra bonus Covid bail-out.

Sharks are laying in wait ready to gobble up people's homes - and our sick in the head Congress is feeding them our blood. Disband every large corporation of this sick in the head country and jail every CEO and landlord. It's time for a revolution.



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[-] 2 points by gsw (3324) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 5 months ago

That’s Jared: nepotism and film flam man, give us worse preparation for national defense of COVID19. Protect and serve, your ass. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jared-kushner-covid-19-interruptions_n_5e89201ac5b6cc1e4776a857

Then he appoints his personal amigo to oversee the bailouts to corporations. How much will trump family get for their stupidity, and cost in blood lives and treasure. We’re at war with flimflam man in charge, elects White House counselor to oversight. https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/04/04/brian-miller-trump-coronavirus-inspector-general/

This nightmare keeps getting worse. Where are the tests? So we can isolate as needed. Then, open economy. Duh. Bastard retards in charge. At least in China, they could get shit done. Also, Korea. Taiwan. Aren’t we great enough, after 3.5 years of trump to kick the COVID19

Wake up trumpers. Pray your heads get out of his ass.

Others could show the way to beat back the virus.

“Let them eat cake” is the attitude of the +5)/$

Meanwhile his cheerleading shit for brain supporters rave the dem party is led by the antichrist?

Smoke and mirrors, bread and games, meanwhile Rome is on fire

[-] 2 points by gsw (3324) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 3 months ago

Trump screwed US in the A because we developEd no plan, no tests, in lockdown. And are told to open up, and face more death.


[-] 1 points by gsw (3324) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 3 months ago

Covid-19 Is Bad. But It May Not Be the ‘Big One’ Health experts want a 9/11 Commission-style report on the US pandemic response. They say we must forecast and prepare for outbreaks as we do for wars or weather


[-] 1 points by gsw (3324) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 5 months ago

It’s insidious. I even have close family say Jesus in these troubling times, I shout your name. I fear they just want an authority, nationalistic person to be the leader, https://www.utne.com/politics/cult-of-trump-ze0z1908zhoe

[-] 1 points by gsw (3324) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 5 months ago

Here is science on what to do Taiwan's coronavirus response is among the best globally don’t reinvent the wheel


This channel has been going since January, on COVID19. https://youtu.be/LsxVRnNGl5A Wake up, America. Get a clue. Get moving ASAP.

[-] 1 points by elf3 (4187) 5 months ago

I think now believe it's a plan to thin out the underlings. They aren't even trying to hide it. Dog eat dog neo-liberal mindset... neo-libertarian (I don't like the term neo-liberal). Top dogs live - we deserve to die; survival of the richest. Because you know we didn't fight and snarl and bite our way to the top and weren't born rich - so we deserve our lowly fates in this new age of Systemic Sociopathy. It's going to be kind of shocking for an American public who largely gives the benefit of the doubt to their chosen politicians. The gloves are off - they tricked you - and they are counting on us to roll over and take it. They are counting wrong. Never confuse kindness for stupidity.


[-] 1 points by gsw (3324) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 5 months ago

Rand Paul and Boris Johnson, who downplayed the significance of need for appropriate action, and exuded a survival of the fit in neoliberal policy, and herd immunity, can afford good care, while many Americans are given a huge debt if they even try to get tested at hospital. A neighbor got a test over 7 days ago still no result. It is like a science fiction, but it is a terrible reality here. There was an actor with a 37000 bill for a test. An unemployed with a 10,000 bill. How is that going to help a society?

One article equated efficient government response the COVID19 with the level of care for others in society, we are On the “look out for yourself” end of the list. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/story/2020-04-06/commentary-the-u-s-has-the-most-covid-19-cases-worldwide-why-because-were-selfish We are the most individualistic, can we survive this as such?


Hey, look over there. Watch out for those bad guys.

I am the great and perfect, like a letter. Says the head, with a head of red.

Where is our CDC?


[-] 1 points by gsw (3324) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 5 months ago

From an underequipped health-care system to tenuous economic stability, the pandemic upending life as we know it has exposed hidden fragilities in American society. But this disease has also held a mirror to our national identity, laying bare how deeply ingrained individualism has become in our psyche. As we mobilize to contain the novel coronavirus, we must also acknowledge this epidemic of individualism — an illness that can’t be cured with social distancing.

Individualism pervades American society. We idolize celebrities as pinnacles of personal achievement, the American dream entails only providing for oneself and one’s family, and Hofstede Insights rank the U.S. as the most individualistic country.

From https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/story/2020-04-06/commentary-the-u-s-has-the-most-covid-19-cases-worldwide-why-because-were-selfish

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 months ago

''This Is Why Americans Are Scared To Death Of Being Tested For The Coronavirus'':

this: ''How would you feel if you received a bill for more than $34000 after being tested and treated for the coronavirus? This pandemic is showing the entire world that the U.S. healthcare system is deeply, deeply broken & there is no way that we can continue to go on like this. If coronavirus testing is quick, inexpensive & widely available all over the rest of the globe, then why can’t that be the case here too? Democrats and Republicans have been fighting about fixing our healthcare system all the way back to the 1990s and they haven’t gotten the job done. Now we have a "system" that is a complete and utter embarrassment, and it is about to be overwhelmed by The Greatest Public Health crisis that any of us have ever seen. Even under our normal circumstances most Americans are deathly afraid to go to the hospital because of what it will cost.'' Also fyi ...

sad sigh ...

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23316) 6 months ago

Medicare should cover all Covid19 bills.

No American should get a single bill for this virus, not because they don't have any insurance, not because they haven't met their deductible, not for any reason whatsoever. And, not just "Americans," but any and all human beings present on this soil during this crisis. If we don't do this then we are not taking the virus seriously.

The administrative structure is there to bill through Medicare and the coverage should be at 100% for all illnesses related to coronavirus.

Then later, we can put everyone universally into Medicare For All, :) because it really is the best way to go.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 months ago

"How many must die for Wall Street?'' by Andre Damon:

Yes, "Medicare should cover all Covid19 bills" but US pols don't care!

fiat lux et fiat justitia ...

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23316) 5 months ago

Teen died, denied treatment for COVID 19 because didn't have health insurance.


“He didn’t have insurance, so they did not treat him,” Parris said in a video posted to YouTube. The staff at the urgent care facility told the teen to try the emergency room at Antelope Valley (AV) Hospital, a public hospital in the area, according to the mayor.

“En route to AV Hospital, he went into cardiac arrest, when he got to AV hospital they were able to revive him and keep him alive for about six hours,” Parris said. “But by the time he got there, it was too late.”

R.I.P. young man.

Don't ever tell me this is the greatest country on earth. :(

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 months ago

“He didn’t have insurance, so they didn't treat him” - are words that should sear themselves into the minds & hearts of anyone living anywhere, because they are not words that should be heard in any kind of civilized modern society & yet they're words that are all too often heard in the most powerful & richest nation in history .. which can project its raw power anywhere on earth & which now has a "Space Force" but can let a person die in the street like a dog! I tried to find out what the 17 year old kid was called and couldn't but the answers to why he died, can be found in the psychopathy of US' ruling class & the thrall in which they're held such that The 99%, vote against their own best interests! "R.I.P. young man" & NB:

Btw, I'm not sure what the supercilious twit below is talking about, with the first & only line of his twaddle that I read, as U've been "pushing for Medicare-for-All" - for as long as U've been here as far as I recall!

per aspera ad astra ...

[-] 2 points by elf3 (4187) 5 months ago

Who would comply with such a rule? There will always be rules written and designed by those without ethics. Why do we continue to comply with those rules? That's the real issue we need to address. If you are an EMT, Dr, nurse hospital manager - it's on your conscience and that life is on you in that moment. The universe doesn't care about the rule you had to follow. And neither should you. Always let your conscience be your guide. For me - I'm going to do the right thing and if enough people see me do the right thing - they will realize they can too. And then things change - they can't fire everyone. In the end we will answer for our actions even if it's just to ourselves.

So who is damning your soul? You. They made me do it - doesn't count.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 months ago

Who'd comply with evil rules?! Well ... Amazon worker Chris Smalls helped lead an Amazon walkout for lack of COVID19 compliance that put workers, customers and New York in danger. Today, Chris Smalls was shamefully fired by the wealthiest man in the world Jeff Bezos! Support The Amazon Strike! Sign:

Yes ''The universe doesn't care about the rule you had to follow. And neither should you. Always let your conscience be your guide'' & ''They made me do it - doesn't count.'' Well said. Solidarity to U and Mr. elf.

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 1 points by elf3 (4187) 5 months ago

To turn around and get angry at employees for the company's own wrong-doing is called blaming the victims.

Let's hope the NY Attorney Gen. and labor department launches a full investigation. It took courage for Smalls to stand up to the richest man in the world - and it's going to take the courage of the rest of the workforce to realize change can't happen without solidarity. Companies who lie about Covid spreading in their facilities should be brought to justice. What part of most of the entire country is under self imposed quarantine to prevent the spread of deadly pandemic not just for themselves but to flatten the curve for all of society do these CEOs not get?

There are people dying and they are discovering a large volume of young people too - all dying alone in a hospital room with a plastic bubble over their heads drowning in their own lung fluid. And they are playing chess with employee lives and ultimately nurses and doctors lives too because they will be more at risk the more patients they treat. The whole point of quarantine could be defeated by a handful of irresponsible companies with large volumes of employees across the nation playing roulette and betting that it won't trace back to them if they throw a blanket over it all. So if Bezos and others want to selfishly spike infection rates so hospitals are inundated all at once - many more people will die due to lack of ventilators and beds and it will be their fault. Same going on at UPS also. It's not the boxes people need to worry about it's the workers - because there are a lot of them and if it spreads amongst them - it's a wild fire spreading amongst the people they live with, and on.

It seems like both UPS and Amazon have coordinated responses to the press. These CEO's are so classist they believe that their status gives their words more merit than a blue collar worker - actually more than many blue collar workers who are deeply concerned not just for infecting themselves but their families and the public. A worker asking for proper health protocols v a company hedging large quantities of money which counts employees as a liability and every penny spent is a penny they can't show to shareholders. Who has more reason to lie? A: The companies do - obviously. I don't blame these companies for the pandemic - and they did have fortunate luck that they are still in business - but I would expect that they would respect the seriousness of the situation and risk to employees. This situation gave them an opportunity to shine and show what American labor could do and what they could do for American labor. They took that opportunity and fumbled it with the eyes of a terrified nation looking on and turned their facilities into a survival horror show for employees.

To reiterate the point to turn around and get angry at and punish employees for the company's own wrong-doing is called blaming the victims.


Also putting your hands over your eyes and saying peek-a-boo I can't see you - doesn't make the virus go away. So unless Bezos has the mental capacity of a toddler - claiming ignorance is just screwy. And for men who seem to know all the nuances of every tax law in existence and how to work their way seamlessly through K-street and numbers and algorithms out the ass, claiming they can't possibly fathom that disregarding the CDC guidelines is going to kill people is pretty unbelievable. Which makes it a malicious and willful intent to harm.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 months ago

But alas "blaming the victims" is exactly what the Ayn Rand's ass kissing 0.01% Oligarchy & their 1% lackeys in M$M - do to gaslight & control The 99%! Thanx for your thought provoking reply. I encourage all who read & learn here (& there are far more of them than we who still post here realize) to read your post above.

NY's Gov.Cuomo has found his voice and perhaps informed by his Catholicism, he articulates the wider collectivism that is needed to overcome the COVID19 Crisis, which we are all now in. ''Rich or poor or powerful or not ... This Is The Great Leveller'' he said - and never a truer word was broadcast on US TV/radio. Take care & be well elf. Solidarity to U & yours. Also NB .. https://flumob.org/resources and fyi:

et spero meliora ...

(& hope for better)

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 weeks ago

Sadly the "US refuses to join international effort to develop COVID-19 vaccine" by Lauren Atarani:

caveat actor!

[-] 1 points by elf3 (4187) 5 months ago

Back in the 60's some musician - Dillon maybe would be out in that parking lot staging some protest 6 feet apart - standing up for those workers and helping get their voices heard so it could make the news. Where are all these people now? Please someone in NY fire up a guitar - they need you!!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 months ago

"What spectacular timing! Like a shot ricocheting at Heaven’s Door, as a virus pandemic rages & Planet Lockdown is the new normal, Bob Dylan has produced a stunning 17-minute masterpiece dissecting the November 22, 1963, assassination of JFK ...'' - from:

NB: ''If there’s any cultural artifact capable of sending a powerful jolt across a discombobulated America trying to come to grips with a dystopic Desolation Row, this is it .. the work of America’s undisputed, true Exceptionalist. The times, they are-a-changin’. Oh, yes, they are.''

respice; adspice; prospice ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23316) 5 months ago

Kudos to Chris Smalls. Staten Island Amazon worker, a hero in my world!

We need more Chris Smalls on this earth! Solidarity to him!

I just looked to see if there is a fundraiser to help him out. Don't see one yet, but I'll post it here if I find one.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 months ago

By CHRIS SMALLS: "Dear Jeff Bezos, instead of firing me, protect your workers from Corona Virus'' ...

fiat lux et fiat justitia ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23316) 4 months ago

Amazon's treatment of Smalls was racist.

From: https://www.thedailybeast.com/john-oliver-appalled-by-amazon-and-jeff-bezos-racist-smears-against-black-worker

"But leaked notes from an internal meeting days later, in which Bezos himself was present, showed the company’s leadership discussing plans to make Smalls the ‘face of the entire union/organizing movement’ since ‘he’s not smart or articulate,’” Oliver explained.

“Holy shit,” Oliver continued. “That is so racist I can’t even point out how smart and articulate Smalls is without also sounding racist.”

Which led him to his broader point: “Look, Congress absolutely needs to mandate all businesses provide paid sick leave in their next coronavirus bill on a permanent basis, as well as require they provide significant hazard pay for any worker being asked to risk their lives—because that risk is very, very real. Grocery workers are dying of this disease right now and so far, we’ve lost 41 transit workers in New York City alone.”

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

So consider - ''Target, Amazon, Instacart Workers Demand Safe Conditions and Pandemic Relief''

Per your reply, it is disturbing that if Chris Smalls was a white guy, he'd be treated differently by Amazon but then again .. that is not that different to the rationale of those (mostly white) protesters to Lock Down who paraded their ignorance in NYC,Michigan and other places across U$A!

fiat lux et fiat justitia ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23316) 3 months ago

RIP George Floyd, who was killed on May 25th less than 4 weeks ago.

Just prior to his murder Amazon employee Chris Smalls was fired for demanding worker safety from Covid and for being Black.

Floyd hasn't died in vain and the timing of the surging Black Lives Matter movement around America and around the world is serendipitous for all of us.

Trying to ensure safety at work is important and Smalls is a hero imo. Remember a little organization called OSHA? The Occupational Safety and Health Administration that USED to protect workers but for the past 40 years hasn't bothered to enforce much of anything. It's just another institution torn to shreds by neoliberal policies that care nothing about the common human.

And, they wonder why so many people are protesting. It's because they've had enough! Enough of racism, enough of capitalism, enough of inequality. Enough!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 months ago

"Whole Foods Is Quietly Telling Workers Not to Show Black Lives Matter Support!" Nichole Karlis:

cave - anguis in herba!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23316) 1 month ago

Workers suing Whole Foods for workplace discrimination. Evidently, Black Lives Matter masks were not allowed while items supporting LGBTQ rights and other groups were.


[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 weeks ago

"Reforms Are Won When Social Movements Inflict Real Costs on Economic Elites"! by Justin Vassalo:

omnia causa fiunt ...

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 1 month ago

The "Black Lives Matter" masks are evidently unambiguously political in nature. I cannot say that wearing a rainbow-colored mask means supporting LGBTQ rights. There were young children's artworks having many rainbow colors. Construing them to be supporting LGBTQ rights is a bit too far-fetched for me. Could they be far more sexually precocious than I was? Extremely unlikely.

I support "All Lives Matter" so "Black Lives Matter" is a logical derivative but people who sport around with "Black Lives Matter" slogan largely mean to push for "Black Lives should afford superior treatments than others." In the spirit of compensation, the push for justice of course makes sense because the darker skin color associated with being "Black" was traditionally used as "cattle branding" for targeted oppression. The deeper the oppression, the deeper the compensation ought to be.

I looked at U.S. society's solution to compensate the Blacks: affirmative action. I used to believe that affirmative action was just, but no more. It's because the traditional oppression have originated from the Whites. How could taking an Ivy League college admission slot from a better achieving Asian and giving it to a Black compensate for the past wrongs done by the Whites' forebears and accrued hereditary or heritable life chances and advantages to the Whites? This involved the wrong group of the people paying ! The so-called "redress of past wrongs" by uninvolved innocent people makes absolutely no sense to me. I sort of understand the psychology of the Whites so it's not really irrational: Whites' privileges must be maintained--it's like the fresh air that one who has never breathed foul air, breathes. Do we know that we all live in the ubiquitous Higgs field?

Few of us do unless one has "been there, done that." The linchpin is that the definition of "Whiteness" is flexible as having already been done in the U.S. over the decades. We no longer consider Irish, Italian, Jewish, etc. Americans as being "non-"White. On a genomic level, Americans of enslaved African ethnicity are already about 25% or so "White," as if each one had a "White" grandfather so on the breeding level, there's no reason to oppose them as being "White." In South America, they have much admixture of many different skin colors and they generally follow the "Wealth whitens" rule ( rather than the U.S. rule of "Whiteness enriches.") Being White leading to systemic Higgs-field { Redfuckgina also has this field of discriminating taste for tofu } assistance to obtaining wealth is the U.S. legacy problem from its slavery past. Wealth is often obtainable in a single generation but getting to be genomically White takes far too many generations of persistent, productive, and successful fuckings.

Males' part in doing that isn't too difficult but what's needed is the successful result of many decades of the proper raising of the offspring, traditionally the females' part. There's an r-naught number for epidemics so there's a similar number for human population growth--2.1 children per woman. Achieving global stability and the avoidance of much societal ill needs our targeting this number ( Leftists generally have the over-correcting problem of swerving too strongly in a desired direction and cause the necessity of swerving hard in the opposite direction, disrupting society and killing far too many people as evidenced by Stalinism.) In U.S. terminology, "it's all about the benjamins"--benjamins symbolize more than just the greenback pieces of paper, not even up to the American standard of being absorbent toilet tissue ( I prefer American-style { soft and absorbent } to British-style { cold and waxy } toilet tissue and Muslim-style worship afterwards--you've got to buy or get a bidét to spray warm water and clean with soap/detergent/surfactant/shampoo to enjoy this millennia-old breakthrough in personal comfort ! ) As a preschooler, I used old newspapers but my { yep, it's not just my Big Brother who was engaged in the training of biological Pokémons } bidaily Pokémon-training of my anus ( 屁眼 ) to read { I suspect that its small caliber, i.e. tightassness, contributed to the lousy resolution achieved; it IS important to know which end is high--as I'd become vastly more successful in training by bringing reading materials to my eyes ( 眼睛 ) instead of my small-caliber anus ( 屁眼 ) } was unsuccessful so Mom switched me over to cool-waxy British translucent { no-word foggybottom(TM).}

Preferential treatment does make me look at all "successful" Blacks with the uneasy feeling that they have been of the "affirmative action" so-so quality kind ( of course, I've generally viewed the systemically privileged Whites as often being of so-so quality, too, and it has largely proven true in my life--some systemically anointed privileged Whites' leaders turned out to be "incompetent idiots" when they had tried to control too much all by themselves but others who had practiced "benign neglect" { somewhat like that of the colonial British government working under the threat of massive mainland Chinese intervention into the lives of Chinese nationals, many of whom were refugees from China's "Century of Humiliation," living in British-leased and British-controlled territories } were spectacular successes; the real purpose of the South China Sea conflict is to stabilize the CCP's precarious rule over China by confining the multimillion-strong unmarried excess males to the barracks with busy nationalism jobs and expending them as cannon fodder to gain natural resources if successful, or if unsuccessful, get rid of this restive testosterone-powered but lacking oxytocin/love-hormone-orgasms unfucked and unmarriageable-other-than-in-illegal-polyandry population that may threaten the CCP; believe it or not, Redfuckgina has a problem of far-too-many penises with no matching vaginas of astronomical-number proportion, which has arisen from its many decades of single-child policy combined with cultural preference for sons, over potential daughters who had been aborted/killed far more than potential sons ) which we have purportedly screened for as a society. Lowering standards is wrong but increasing the capabilities of the Blacks in order to redress the past wrongs is right.

[-] 1 points by elf3 (4187) 5 months ago

So obviously this is a hostile work environment situation and he should not go back - but he was most certainly terminated because he spoke out and he has ethics so he should be compensated for the loss of his income. Ethics are clearly frowned upon in Amazon.

What does the thermometer show for someone carrying the virus who has yet to show symptoms? Which we know happens - asymptomatic spread. Social distance, ppe, etc are the only things to ensure it's not being spread - a temperature check is an illusion of safety and probably a mechanism to display control. Because as I said in my post about systemic sociopathy - Jeff Bezos can afford to slow production and do the right thing for the workers who build his company. He just doesn't want to. Frankly. That's it. He has disdain for his workers and he is classist. He doesn't appreciate people who work for him or who have ethics because it goes against his neo-liberal philosophy of dog eat dog. And he is top dog. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should - but we can't teach a dog without a conscience how to have one I guess a sociopath is a sociopath is Jeff Bazos. He isn't interested in what he considers petty concessions like health - he is interested in winning. But you can punish him maybe even arrest him for breaking the law and endangering the public health.... wrongful termination, union busting, hostile work environment, recklessly endangering the public. Having no scruples might make one very wealthy, but like Madoff found out - it can eventually catch up to you when it crosses the lines of the social decency and in this case with Bezos endangers lives.

He could still turn this all around and become a revolutionary leader of what an American company could become when they put workers and human rights first and set a new pay it forward standard for employment here and around the world. He is certainly in a leadership position to pave that path. If he wants it. And I hope he will. But if not workers must continue to fight for what is right and that is a fair share of the profits in the company they help build on their shoulders with their hands in the country where they pay tax.

And as far as donating to poverty - the charitable display that earns a write off could be better spent enriching the lives of the people who work for him. I wonder if Jeff Bezos parents were working class? What will the children of workers do when their parents are empowered to give them an education - good nutrition, stability? Who among may be the one to cure cancer, or be the next Mozart, or Shakespeare? The human potential is vast when the soil beneath it is enriched.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 months ago

Yes, indeed "The human potential is vast when the soil beneath it is enriched" and for sure it's true "workers must continue to fight for what is right and that is a fair share of the profits in the company they help build on their shoulders with their hands in the country where they pay tax." Again - U make a lot of sense, as U speak from the heart ...

per aspera ad astra ...

(by effort to the stars)

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23316) 5 months ago

Teen remains unnamed but here is an article that describes what happened to him. We must learn from this, what his symptoms were and when so that this does not happen again.

He must not die in vein. R.I.P young man.


We need all COVID 19 costs to be covered by Medicare for all people who are uninsured, immediately.

This should never happen again. And, then, when this is all over, we need every American to be covered universally by a single payer plan, Medicare For All would work perfectly.

$4.5 trillion for corporate bailouts and $1 billion for ventilators - Is there even a question about this?

Apparently, in tonight's Coronavirus Press Conference it's been announced that the War Production Act is going to be enforced against GM to make the ventilators.

But really? $4.5 TRILLION to corporations who do nothing but suck our blood without a flinch. And, complain about $1 billion for ventilators that will save thousands of actual human lives? F-kd up priorites.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 months ago

''USA's Wave of Hospital Closures Left Us Ill-Equipped for COVID-19'', by Dr. Margaret Flowers:

Sadly, yes "really - $4.5 TRILLION to corporations who do nothing but suck our blood without a flinch (who) complain about $1 billion for ventilators, that'll save thousands of actual human lives? F-kd up'' Furthermore, at what point do Americans wake up to the real Class War being waged against them?!

fiat lux et fiat justitia ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23316) 5 months ago

Capitalism kills. Our disjointed, fragmented, for profit healthcare system is the main thing to blame for the rapid spread of COVID 19 and the difficulties we are having at flattening the curve.

From Flowers' Truthout:

"According to the Global Health Security Index, the United States ranks 175th out of 195 countries for access to health care. Italy ranks 74th and it is having problems with overcrowded hospitals and being forced to prioritize patients for intensive care based on their likelihood of surviving. Since 1975, while the U.S. population has risen from 216 million people to 331 million, the total number of hospital beds has declined from 1.5 million to 925,000."

The truth is, we have a very good health care system for a very few people but when looked at in the round, for the whole country, it's quite poorly and lacking.

Capitalism and neoliberalism are to blame and they kill and they are killing Americans right now with this pandemic.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 months ago

''Neoliberal Austerity and Private Health Care Has Worsened US Pandemic'' ...

from DemocracyNow!'s Amy Goodman - in conversation with Gregg Gonsalves is assistant professor in epidemiology of microbial diseases at Yale School of Public Health; Amy Kapczynski is professor of law at Yale Law School & a co-founder of he ''Law and Political Economy'' blog. They are co-directors of the Global Health Justice Partnership.

''Capitalism and Neoliberalism are to blame and they kill ... and they are killing Americans right now with this pandemic." Period.

ergo, fiat justitia!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23316) 4 months ago

COVID19 = End of Neoliberal Era.


"...this coronavirus is revealing the structural faults of a system that have been papered over for decades as they’ve been steadily worsening. Gaping economic inequalities, rampant ecological destruction, and pervasive political corruption are all results of unbalanced systems relying on each other to remain precariously poised. Now, as one system destabilizes, expect others to tumble down in tandem in a cascade known by researchers as “synchronous failure.”

"In just a few weeks, we’ve seen political and economic ideas seriously discussed that had previously been dismissed as fanciful or utterly unacceptable: universal basic income, government intervention to house the homeless, and state surveillance on individual activity, to name just a few."

"A crisis such as the coronavirus pandemic has a way of massively amplifying and accelerating changes that were already underway: shifts that might have taken decades can occur in weeks. Like a crucible, it has the potential to melt down the structures that currently exist, and reshape them, perhaps unrecognizably. What might the new shape of society look like? What will be center stage in the Overton window by the time it begins narrowing again?"

I, for one, hope we as human beings take this opportunity to reflect on what is meaningful in life. If we slow down both ourselves and the global economy, even shrink the economy, we can begin to heal our own souls as well as mother Earth. What a gift this time could be and perhaps those who have died will not have died in vain if we can change for the better.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

''As 26 million Americans lose their jobs, the billionaire class has added $308bn to its wealth'' - from...

So bw, while I appreciate and agree with your link, excerpts & sentiments, there is a fight to be fought! However, U$A's Corporate Con'Troll'ed Polytricks is all about concealing and preventing this Struggle!

per aspera ad astra ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23316) 4 months ago

"Inequality and Poverty Were Destroying America Well Before Covid-19"

"This crisis shows us how an economy oriented around the whims of the rich leaves death and destruction in its wake."


"Here’s the simple truth of 21st century America: All of us live in a time and in an economic system that values our lives relative to our ability to produce profits for the rich or in the context of the wealth we possess. Our wellness is measured by our efficiency and—a particular lesson in the age of the coronavirus—our sickness, when considered at all, is seen as an indication of individual limitations or moral failures, rather than as a symptom of a sick society."

Sad, but true. We must fight back for a new economic system that works for all of us. This one is clearly unsustainable.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 months ago

U$A "surpassed a grim milestone - as more than 100,000 deaths resulting from COVID-19 were officially recorded" ...

Too sad and outrageous for Latin!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23316) 2 months ago

"Coronavirus data has already disappeared after Trump administration shifted control from CDC."


Ugggh. This is criminal and is going to cause excess deaths.

When are Americans going to wake up to the lack of good governance.

Fortunately, scientists do what they do and:

"Dr. Jennifer Nuzzo, an epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins University, which runs one of the most popular third-party coronavirus data dashboards, said the policy change won’t impact the Hopkins site because they’ve managed to source their data directly from states. She added, however, that the policy change raises questions about the transparency of the data and the role of the CDC in the ongoing U.S. response."

This is great news! The Johns Hopkins Covid Maps are critical data pieces, brilliant that they were getting the data on their own.

Global Covid Map: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

USA Covid Map: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map

If you click on the lower right hand corner "Daily Cases" of the global map you can see what the curves are for each country.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 month ago

"Millions have lost Health Insurance in Pandemic Driven Recession" by Cheryl G.Stolberg:

fiat justitia ...

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 2 months ago

Do you know that Johns Hopkins got much financial support as endowment from Michael Bloomberg because it was his alma mater, especially in the health area?

It's likely that we still have a view into COVID-19 distributions because we had a philanthropic billionaire amongst us who's interested in funding health-related endeavors. Michael Bloomberg was a former smoker so he's certainly concerned about clean air and health. He probably wishes that he has never smoked. The tobacco companies were confusing the disease-causing issue of tobacco for a very long time. The Reader's Digest(R) was a brave pioneer in taking a position and bringing this health issue to the attention of the American public.

I believe in fields ( does a magnetic field come from a battery-current-powered solenoid or a permanent bar magnet? it doesn't matter from afar because the fields for the two different sources are nearly identical so they have nearly the same effects; of course, it may well matter if we need to accelerate the sources { such as for propelling an electric car } because they probably have different masses so some may exhibit highly conservative inertia; it can be good or bad depending on what's coming at us; on the climate front, we're heading "full-steam ahead" in our "unsinkable" steel [pride of the mighty British Empire] ship at a massive Greenland iceberg ) so I'm not anti-billionaires per sé. There are some benefits, too, at least sometimes, living in the shadows of billionaires. I'm sure that they are also shaken up by the political fibrillation in many areas of U.S. governance. Some of them have probably realized that their asses are ALSO in the mass-culling lineup to be "kicked in the butt" or even "kicked the bucket," too. "There's a black hat caught in a high tree top."

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23316) 3 months ago

Too sad for words. 100,000 dead.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 months ago

"As US Death Count Nears (and exceeds) 100,000; Trump Indulges His Ego and Deflects Blame!" by Wm. Rivers-Pitt:

"Trump’s Tuesday gibberish eruption is a feature, not a bug, of his entire presidency." "Too sad", indeed!

e tenebris, lux?

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 2 months ago

Even worse is "100,000 new cases in a day, every day for a while," happening within weeks to the U.S. When the government is trying to hide or rig the real data, things are probably spinning quickly far out of control.

We had seen that in Florida before it flourished. Now we are seeing that on the U.S. federal level. It's not uniquely American, of course, politicizing and weaponizing an essentially scientific endeavor. Throwing a monkey wrench at the stalled engine the mechanic is working upon usually doesn't start the engine. I like Obama's symbolic pretense ( although the U.S. Government was utterly impotent at that juncture--no tech, no stop--I still like a President who could talk toughness in foreplay poetry and play with his two balls simultaneously to avoid appearing impotent ) of "putting my boot on [the British oil company "Beyond Petroleum" BP's] neck" during the Gulf [McConnell well] natural ME-thane explosion/crude oil gusher-spill much better. Alabama, Louisiana, and Florida were all getting black goo balls for free. Nowadays, Florida has grown quite a bumper crop of fresh COVID-19 cases so "Let Them Eat COVID-19" increasingly makes sense there.

The first classic reaction of a Ducktator is to "shoot the messenger." The messenger has a sounder basis for judgment due to actually having seen or lived, and visited the other side--like Buddha's touching his finger to the ground as he attained his Enlightenment. I suspect that she the YouTuber of the video might have overpaid [$20 ! ] for her burger as the price seemed to be at the high end of the price range. Of course, I cannot confirm that she had indeed overpaid due to insufficient information about possible "free" side dishes which came with the burger but the one definitely true thing about the U.S.A. is that we do have enormous ranges of many things.

Regarding the range of quality/price/feature and variety of things available in the U.S. (New York, N.Y.), my Dad was absolutely wrong about our family having to eat bread ( actually, it was more like too much chicken for me but he was fulfilling his promise to feed me--"chicken every day" in the U.S. ) all the time, once we had immigrated to the U.S. His Nazi-Germany's captors perhaps fed him cold water and ¡bread! every day so much that 》Eier--eggs 《 { 阿爺--Grandpa } became both a joke { Germans sprouted from Grandpa--eggs; 阿爺, Eier ! } as well as a treat. His many brief visits ( his impression was that there were mostly coffee and toasted ¡bread! { I wonder why the U.S. old-timers treated themselves in the similar way as Nazi Germany's captives drinking cold water and eating bread, except for making the coffee and toast bitter and hot first--thus freely imprisoning themselves in tastes aside from the bit of salty-oily butter and sweet-and-sour fruity jelly such as orange marmalade to butter them up } so being brief has its shortcoming ) to the U.S. might not involve much excursion to sample the wide range of foods and drinks available.

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 5 months ago

It's good that you've come to pushing for Medicare-for-all now. There are many different ways in which people can die of CP/C virus but not registered as such: hypoxia [hyp-low, ox-oxygen is acid maker], bacterial pneumonia[pneu-air, lung-related], sepsis, thrombosis, febrile[feverish] illness, cardiac[heart's] arrest[halt], cardiac fibrillation, cardiac arrythmia[a-non; thus heart's non-regular rhythm], emphysema, nephrotic[neph-kidney] failure, hepatic[liver] failure, etc. No one can die of CP/C viral infection if we simply don't test for it, right? The young kids who just stand still, frozen in place, and cover up their eyes to hide from the seeker trying to catch them usually get caught and become seekers themselves, subcontractors of the angel of death.

Politicians can play games with names and accounting to look good but I know that things are much worse than they let their populace know by distorting or downright censoring media, even arresting and locking up the leakers. How else can things get so far out of control? Wasn't it weird that the U.S. went all the way to Japan to evacuate our nationals on a cruise ship but blocked for quite a while another cruise ship from being docked near San Francisco, essentially a U.S. home port of its? Do you recall how long Red Fuckgina had blocked the other countries' medical-expert teams access to Woo=han ( Warrior-Health Orgasmic down-south Man: "no feeling, no feeling : stay on keeping your legs apart" as I-tally the Red Fuckgina's money ) to learn about the behavioral patterns of the novel[-new] corona[-crown]virus[-poison] to help their countries defend against the virus and diverted them to Beijing instead. Should one go to the Deep Whites' House pressroom in Pounding Laundry ( Washing Tons of man-has-thing post-coital bedsheets ) instead of Novel Amsterdam ( i.e. Jew Jerk ) to learn about the current CP/C viral attack behavioral patterns in New Wuhan?

I trust what the people on the front lines are saying as I learnt from observing ostrich that the so-called "burying its head into the ground" works very well indeed because sound waves travel several times faster through the ground than the air. We all should learn from the birds which couldn't fly--they may have other smarts in order to survive. I like Big Bird of Sesame Street--he, of course, couldn't fly but streak.

Rest assured, things will turn gloriously red for the H1B-fixed hitherto-blue-but-now-a-bit-purple "screen of death." "When we were at war [with the Communist Party over China { CP/C } retro-coronavirus 2019]."

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23316) 5 months ago

Medicare For All is something I've been personally pushing for, for many years. Thanks for bringing it up, though, as an issue we should all be concerned with.

Here's Bernie Sanders policy page on Medicare For All:


And, how he'd pay for it:


COVID 19 makes it very clear how much it is harming our country right now that we have so many people without healthcare and without sick pay.

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 5 months ago

Earlier than Jimmy Carter's debate with Ronald Reagan? The U.S. got nowhere for more than four decades already with the kleptocracy preying on people's fear of "Socialism." Without a universal human pandemic which afflicts the wealthy ones, too, the U.S. cannot make the mindspace leap that health is a social issue requiring a social not a financial ( the Retardican-straitjacketed in "East Hall" Uncle Tom's ) solution. I was astonished that there were outbreaks of Hepatitis A in Los Angeles. It's more common where people eat fecal-contaminated shellfish, such as from New England clam chowder or foods in restaurants without adequate sanitary facilities and conscientious-of-hygienic-practice food workers. Hmm, I wonder what the late U.S. Senator Edward M. Kennedy ate to get a liver infection? I doubt that any sane person would eat Los Angeles oysters raw, though. Oh yes, the angel of death comes again ! Erection has Con sequences.

We need focus and get this National Healthcare thing done ( including covering the homeless people living on the streets of Los Angeles blessed with more hospitable weather so it's less harsh on the homeless people than Montana winter ). Be it Bernie, Orange-utan, Yusef Bidingtime, Chicken Doolittle, Big Bird, Duktator, no matter, anything can press that Big Red Button [while practicing Kung Flu].

I'm hopeful because the U.S. populace's attitude about smoking changed for the better, unlike some still s--thole countries ( where subpar-IQ people still roam ).

Yes, even a scorpion can walk on the clouds if it persists on an arduous voyage. Climb up the ancestral granite lion's tail, pass by the Gibraltar monkeys of the British Crown, through Unicorn Ridge's forest, but up the spine of the granite lion to perch on its head and patiently wait. "When your ancestral stone lion cries blood, the Deluge'll arrive," and so will in-drift the rain cloud to wet the granite at your feet. The scorpion can take off flying from that runway with the help of the granite rocks freed by the midday gun, day after day. Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom ... ! ! !

Nearly every country's citizen is rushing to make and wear a mask in solidarity with Hong Kongers.

Auf deutsch.

In English: "Win, Win, Win for Liberty" !

Free Hong Kong from Imperialism and Cannibalism or otherwise gamble ( i.e. by donning no mask/goggles/gloves/gown thus showing no solidarity with Hongkongers ). The Maniacal Artist ( whose signature is written into virtual-photon-fields'/electromagnetic energy levels everywhere in the universe ) can do far more to help: Hatch { when we'll be in a more upscale biowar }.

[-] 2 points by agkaiser (2460) from Fredericksburg, TX 6 months ago

Capitalism and especially the stock market are parasitic diseases of the economy. They are cancers that threaten the existence of the people economies are supposed to sustain.

[-] 3 points by elf3 (4187) 6 months ago

Yes the stock market needs to go - it indeed threatens the system we employ to sustain us and steals the money we contribute. Wall Street decries Socialism for the masses while it demands Socialism from us.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 months ago

COVID19 Truths like nobody else'll tell us - but dare we listen?

I'm new to the guy on the vid. but I see him as some kind of genius!

e tenebris, lux!

[-] 1 points by elf3 (4187) 6 months ago

Small business bail outs is the easiest of Covid money to apply for - they don't have to prove they have Covid like workers do - they just have to prove their business was affected or closed. Meanwhile those same workers who worked for them - are being evicted. My husband sees people who are telling him these things every day. Their adult children who lost jobs were evicted and moving back home. And those with homes have to negotiate with their bank. THE BANKS AREN'T ANSWERING THE PHONES. So Congress gives the banks money to ease forclosures - and THEY. DON'T. PICK. UP. THE. PHONES.

[-] 1 points by elf3 (4187) 6 months ago

Also raise your hand American ladies and gentlemen if you have ever suffered a tooth abscess because you don't have dental or it doesn't cover enough so you had to wait and save up and work demanding jobs in severe pain for weeks? Or how about all you pregnant women working right up til your due dates pushing a baby out which pretty much wrips you open and coming back to work with fresh vaginal/ perineal stitches or giant C-section wounds? And our pussy president and vp can't handle a q-tip swab up the nose? Are they kidding us?!!!!!