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Forum Post: Lawyer supporting Prop. 8 makes air tight case in favor of overturning Prop. 8 and all gay marriage bans.

Posted 1 year ago on March 27, 2013, 4:40 a.m. EST by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ
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In this clip from the Rachel Maddow Show Justice Kagan asks if it would be constitutional to ban marriage for people over 55 as they could not procreate. The response was that in almost all cases the man still could and therefore the marriage would serve the purpose of keeping him from wandering, thus satisfying the State’s interest in marriage.. It gets lost here not sure if even the Justices picked up on it, but wouldn’t marriage between gay men or women do the same thing? Therefore isn’t there a procreative reason for marriage even among gays? In that it discourages acting outside that realationship?

Maddow clip

Anyway that’s how I saw it.

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[-] 4 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

This lawyer had the skills of a bachmann or palin
As usual, MSNBC's Rachel Maddow gets a bullseye

[-] 4 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

Well I do like Rachel, but there is more to this exchange. One of the key arguments in support of Prop. 8 has to do with procreation, in the pass this has always referred to children within the marriage, here the pro Prop 8 lawyer makes the case that because marriage would discourage the fertile from creating children outside the marriage, implying this is a State interest. Would gay marriage not do the same thing? Thus creating a procreation argument in favor of gay marriage and removing the last veil of legitimacy to the haters.

[-] 5 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

This is such a biblical mess of insanity
Why cant the religious crackpots let other people live their own lives!

[-] 4 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

This is changing fast and looks like it will be another splitting force within the GOP, they are crumbling.

[-] 4 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

I'll keep my fingers crossed

[-] 3 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

so have all the people you call troll proven that you're a lying sack of shit like I have?

[-] -2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

You didn't prove anything more than you are a waste of space. In fact, you have become very creative in you attempts but, sadly, you have failed. Again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkTb9GP9lVI

[-] 3 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

Have all these "trolls" you point out kicked your ass and proven you're a lying sack of shit?

Do I really need to pull the comment where you claim to have been on a forum with a like but no dislike and comment/reply where people could like comment as on here, when asked you refused to give the site, then claimed it was for privacy, then claimed you were on 140 forums, do I need to go over the convoluted pack of lies you have twisted yourself into just to back up a debate point you thought was good but was a lie, what you meant to say was you didn't like the ideal of such a forum not that you had actually tried one, but you back yourself into this corner and your stupid pride won't let you out.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (1904) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Because they believe they own marriage.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

enjoy the up votes while they last, notice how where this debate started your getting down voted but I'm getting up but here where people haven't seen the full tale it's the reverse? my guess is you have a rep for sorting out "trolls" up to now people didn't know that troll to you meant anyone who had kicked your hateful ass, because you pick a lot of fights, you're not so used to getting your ass kicked and caught in a pack of lies.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

Is this always your response when you get your ass kicked?

It would make me rethink your "troll" labels (if I didn't agree with you so often)

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

people can read you know? don't you?

[-] -3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

That's what I am bankin' on, Sweet Pea. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkTb9GP9lVI

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[-] -3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

What you really want is the names I'm under at other forums. It would be much better if you just admitted that you are a psychopathic little stalker troll. Do we need to go back and pull your posts?

You're a lonely disillusioned sad little troll. The more you talk the better it gets. By all means keep on talking little derelict.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

Here’s where you first jump in to pick a fight:

0 points by GirlFriday (14689) 3 days ago This ain't face book. There is no rational reason to have only a like button. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink

http://occupywallst.org/forum/i-suggest-the-mods-remove-the-stinkle-and-its-affe/#comment-950861

1 points by GirlFriday (14689) 3 days ago You waste too much time giving the stinkle/twinkle button power over you and if you could just get rid of it then it would make everything better. I hate sites that have a like button. You should probably think about what that like only button message sends to the public. Further, it doesn't get rid of the bots and socks. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink [-] 3 points by factsrfun (9950) from Phoenix, AZ 3 days ago Do you know of forum with comment/reply with only a "like" button refer me I will check it out, maybe I will agree who knows?

http://occupywallst.org/forum/i-suggest-the-mods-remove-the-stinkle-and-its-affe/#comment-950894

-3 points by GirlFriday (14689) 1 day ago I didn't provide a link because you are a fucking moron and you can run a search as well as anyone else. The fact that you asked me how to hit the like button on FB demonstrates your profound idiocy. I see shift change happened again. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink [-] 0 points by factsrfun (9950) from Phoenix, AZ 1 day ago FB does not provide for comment/reply the fact that you imply that it does proves that you are a lying asshole. Also there is no "like" button for comments on FB, FB is NOT a forum I have goolged I contend that you have not seen a forum with only a like button and you are a fucking liar. This fucking moron just proved you're a fucking liar, how does that make you feel? (BTW I've had too many people with PhDs weigh in on my intelligence to give a shit about your opinion) ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply edit delete permalink [-] 0 points by GirlFriday (14689) 20 hours ago You stupid piece of shit. All you have to do is to go to other forums to check it out. You will find this usually labeled as karma. You will also find this listed as "thanks". You will find it as "Thanked 427 times". You will usually find this on one issue forums. Like, sports or like atheism and often on political forums where fuck you very much is not an option. You pathetic trolling fucknut.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/lawyer-supporting-prop-8-makes-air-tight-case-in-f/#comment-952393

[-] -3 points by GirlFriday (14689) 20 hours ago The only lying sack of shit here is you. If you thought that I was going to give you the forums that I frequent..........you are much dumber than you portray yourself as. But, keep it up little douch bag. The more you keep talking the more of a piece of shit you make yourself look like. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink [-] 1 points by factsrfun (9950) from Phoenix, AZ 20 hours ago so you "frequent" these forums you don't like? your lies just keep piling up, I'd ask you to point out one of my lies, but what's the point? when speaking with a lying sack of shit like

http://occupywallst.org/forum/lawyer-supporting-prop-8-makes-air-tight-case-in-f/#comment-952411

This is where you run away

-] 1 points by GirlFriday (14689) 3 days ago You waste too much time giving the stinkle/twinkle button power over you and if you could just get rid of it then it would make everything better. I hate sites that have a like button. You should probably think about what that like only button message sends to the public. Further, it doesn't get rid of the bots and socks. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink [+] 3 points by factsrfun (9950) from Phoenix, AZ 3 days ago [-] 3 points by factsrfun (9950) from Phoenix, AZ 3 days ago I waste too much time? again you ignore most of my posts to make judgments like this, I suppose that makes it easier, but moving on, no it doesn't solve all problems but I do think there is a mindset behind the stinkle we could do without. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply edit delete permalink [-] 1 points by factsrfun (9950) from Phoenix, AZ 3 days ago I really do want to check out one of these forums that have comment/reply but only a "like" button I can't find one could you please send the link to one of those you tried out? Failing that could you tell; me how exactly do "like" a comment on FB? I think you are talking about something completely different when comparing what I am suggesting to FB. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply edit delete permalink

http://occupywallst.org/forum/i-suggest-the-mods-remove-the-stinkle-and-its-affe/#comment-951367

and you belong to 140 forums but to give me a link to just one would be too much to prove you’re not a fucking liar?

[-] -2 points by GirlFriday (14656) 20 hours ago You worthless fucknut. I belong to over 140 forums. I have been on line for a very long time. I owe you nothing. You pathetic trolling douche bag. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink

http://occupywallst.org/forum/lawyer-supporting-prop-8-makes-air-tight-case-in-f/#comment-952415

Now you’re messing, with a;..A Son of Bitch, now you’re messing with a son of a bitch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDa1W9CE7L8

[-] -2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

hahahahahahahahahahaha.

I love it when you make yourself look stupid.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

as opposed to just claiming bullshit with no backup like you?

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Ok, Sweet Pea, it's time to watch you beg.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

Now you want to play kinky games? Are you that desperate for attention?

[-] 3 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

The "radicals" on this site sure are sensitive, I got GF pissed off at me and she won';t even give me the link to this forum she tried out that had just a "like" button I am starting to think she lied about having tried one or even found one. Now she only comments on my "off totpic" threads and then claims that's all I post, too bad The Ego is the Enemy

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

I didn't provide a link because you are a fucking moron and you can run a search as well as anyone else. The fact that you asked me how to hit the like button on FB demonstrates your profound idiocy. I see shift change happened again.

[-] 3 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

FB does not provide for comment/reply the fact that you imply that it does proves that you are a lying asshole. Also there is no "like" button for comments on FB, FB is NOT a forum I have goolged I contend that you have not seen a forum with only a like button and you are a fucking liar.

This fucking moron just proved you're a fucking liar, how does that make you feel?

(BTW I've had too many people with PhDs weigh in on my intelligence to give a shit about your opinion)

[-] -1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Yes they do stupid. My god you are out of touch.

Someone this out of touch should not be involved in policy making. Thank go you arent.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

Why don't you go to FB and reply to a comment and while your there indicate if you like the comment, you do know the difference between a comment a post don't you?

[-] 0 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

you make a hyperlink in your comment of the username and they are notified of the reply.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

So it's like an email system, that's not exactly a public discussion is it?

[-] 1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

How do you think your replies show up at the corner here? The hyper link is built in, as a reply. Same thing. Actually its a bit more efficient because you can be notified in your email as well of replies, as with this site that doesnt happen.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

Have you ever been to FB? It is really not at all like a real forum, is that the only "example" you know of?

[-] -2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

You stupid piece of shit. All you have to do is to go to other forums to check it out. You will find this usually labeled as karma. You will also find this listed as "thanks". You will find it as "Thanked 427 times". You will usually find this on one issue forums. Like, sports or like atheism and often on political forums where fuck you very much is not an option.

You pathetic trolling fucknut.

[-] 3 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

still when it would be so easy to prove you are not a fucking liar, still you don't? odd don't you think? and don't forget to tell me what ID you posted under to prove you actually tried it as you claim

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

You dumb mother fucker. I'm not showing you shit. Grow the fuck up.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

That's because you're a lying sack of shit and can't.

[+] -4 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

The only lying sack of shit here is you. If you thought that I was going to give you the forums that I frequent..........you are much dumber than you portray yourself as. But, keep it up little douch bag. The more you keep talking the more of a piece of shit you make yourself look like.

[-] 3 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

so you "frequent" these forums you don't like? your lies just keep piling up, I'd ask you to point out one of my lies, but what's the point? when speaking with a lying sack of shit like you

[-] 3 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

Have all these "trolls" you point out kicked your ass and proven you're a lying sack of shit?

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

You didn't prove a fucking thing. You do this all time. You attempt to claim a victory and you have not. I promise you, you haven't kicked my ass. You haven't come close.

[-] -2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

You worthless fucknut. I belong to over 140 forums. I have been on line for a very long time. I owe you nothing. You pathetic trolling douche bag.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

You claim to have tried forums that have comment/reply with the abilty to like but not dislike and that you did not like them, I have not seen one and asked you to direct me to one so that I might try it and see if i agreed with you about it not being good, you have gone to great lengths not to, I am at this point convinced you are a fucking liar.

[-] -3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkTb9GP9lVI

I'm convinced that you are nothing more than a douche bag troll. How about a little non-cooperation?

[-] 3 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

Have all these "trolls" you point out kicked your ass and proven you're a lying sack of shit?

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

Is this always your response to getting your ass kicked?

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[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

I knew it was you.

[-] -1 points by LittleMatchGirl (-143) 1 year ago

Charming.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Is this the part where I say, "Welcome back" or do I tell you that you look fat in that dress. When do we acknowledge your newest ensemble.

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