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Forum Post: Julian Assange interviews Noam Chomsky & Tariq Ali

Posted 1 year ago on July 8, 2012, 10:12 a.m. EST by struggleforfreedom80 (6276)
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[-] 4 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Seen it. Excellent. Assange is a hero. He has sacrificed so much for the freedom of the press, for govt transparency, For the concept of informing the electorate.

We all owe him a debt of gratitude. And much more

Thanx for posting

Peace & Solidarity.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

For the concept of informing the electorate.

lol

[-] 1 points by conservatroll (117) 1 year ago

Ask PFC Manning who the REAL hero is!!!

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Manning is also a hero. Not mutually exclusive from my perspective.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

no, I don't suppose it would be

I'll fly over to Australia to discuss the matter before visiting Bangladeshi

[-] -1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6276) 1 year ago

yes, JA & co have been very courageous.

You've maybe seen this one as well, but if not, check this one out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn5y659VI7Q

Democracy Now is really an excellent news organization.

Solidarity to you too :)

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (17985) 1 year ago

As a reminder as to why we're here & what OWS is about (for 'most' of us on this forum!) - please see :

at spes non fracta ...

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

yeah Democracy now had a Nice piece on Woody Guthries 100 birthday,

Thanx

[-] -1 points by shadz66 (17985) 1 year ago

Thanx for your good post and link and which I'd watched when broadcast. To follow, I append :

fiat lex ...

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

"Without the access to the US secret cables, the world would have no insight into how their governments behave", by Patrick Cockburn.

lol

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Good interview - plenty of food for thought.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6276) 1 year ago

Agreed. Excellent interview with good analysis.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

And they do not over do the analysis - they make points and observations while talking about what is going on in the world and let you ( us ) see the connections and/or disconnects.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6276) 1 year ago

Agreed. It's really good to see Assange setting up an interview/talk with these two great activists.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Yes - absolutely.

Talking about issues of the day - today - today's issues.

Providing places to look at - situations to look at - questions to ask your self - questions to forward to others.

This is how awareness is nurtured.

[-] 1 points by zoom6000 (430) from St Petersburg, FL 1 year ago

Julian Assange for president!

[-] 0 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6276) 1 year ago

Hehe. Yeah, that'd be cool. However I have a better idea: How about a free sustainable, decentralized, solidaric society with democracy built from below and no leaders:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxYth0ktPsY&feature=plcp

http://struggleforfreedom.blogg.no/1320873951_the_society_we_should.html

Now that's the society we should strive for :)

[-] 1 points by zoom6000 (430) from St Petersburg, FL 1 year ago

hey,this is good post,I wounder how the media and money would play in such system

[-] 2 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6276) 1 year ago

Institutions, including media, would be controlled democratically by the participants - the ones working in the institution in cooperation with the community etc. Same goes for wealth and resourses in general. A participatory democracy in which people actually are in control of their own life and work.

Please, also check out my "Occupy your Workplace" video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jRy5ZIYZok&feature=plcp

[-] 1 points by zoom6000 (430) from St Petersburg, FL 1 year ago

I wounder What would say, the right wing like Libertarian/tea party to this system where goverment does not involve?

[-] 2 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6276) 1 year ago

The libertarian right wants total private tyranny, so Anarcho-Syndicalism would not appeal to them at all. To my understanding the TP and LP are not in favor of seeking to abolish state and government. They just want to weaken it, making more way for the private tyrannies - the corporations and the financial elite - to rule the society.

[-] 1 points by zoom6000 (430) from St Petersburg, FL 1 year ago

The only way to weaken those s&p 500 corporation by community-wealth.org I will be posted you link to my social media

[-] 1 points by 71353933 (85) 1 year ago

I like this view of Assange:

"Like other anti-American cranks on the planet, Assange holds firm in his warped faith that the U.S. is the leading source of global evil. The roots of this religion run deep, beginning with 18th century European aristocrats who despised the American Revolution. The anti-Americanism of Nazis, communists, tribalists, anarchists and now militant Islamists all rehash the same tropes, with their semi-schizoid baseline being the U.S. is simultaneously a vast authoritarian conspiracy and a heterogeneous menagerie of infidel-cowboy-capitalist idiots who dogmatically resist enlightened social policies.

Assange argues his revelations will force this conglomerate American monster to become more secretive and authoritarian. Limiting access to information, in order to stop future leaks, will reduce the monster's secretive and authoritarian effectiveness. The monster's "security state" will dumb down, and --here's the moment of religious rapture in Assange's prophecy -- this will increase global justice.

Assange also links this shackling of America to creating peace. Don't snicker too long. There are a lot of tenured gray-haired profs with ponytails who teach this dreck at notable universities and get paid for it.

Assange understands media grandstanding, but he doesn't understand people and certainly doesn't understand how American diplomats contribute to maintaining peace."

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Maintaining peace? You mean making apologies after a quarter of a century of meddling that saw hundreds of thousands of people persecuted, tortured, and murdered?

http://www.fff.org/comment/com0501i.asp

Iranian Revolution of 1979, would not permit any public funeral or other expression of mourning for Mossadegh.

In a speech delivered in March 2000 by Madeleine Albright (then secretary of state ), the U.S. government finally acknowledged what it had done to the Iranian people and to democracy in Iraq:

Not surprisingly, Albright’s “apology” fell on many deaf ears in Iran. While Iranians certainly have not forgotten the U.S. government’s support of Saddam Hussein and Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War during the 1980s, including its furnishing Saddam with weapons of mass destruction to use against the Iranian people, the root of Iranian anger lies with the anti-democracy foreign policy of the U.S. government, by which U.S. officials ousted the Iranian people’s democratically elected prime minister, Mohammed Mossadegh, from office in 1953.

[-] -1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6276) 1 year ago

Iran 1953 and support for SH is just the tip of the iceberg. There's a long list of supporting brutal dictators, owerthrowing democratic regimes, staging coups etc etc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvhAe7N4F9A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flvLfSSR1d4&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcDNCkVmXQM

Oh, and for "71353933" and all other ranters, this does not make me (or Michael Moore, or Harold Pinter or Noam Chomsky) anti-american in any way. There's a big difference between hating america and the american people, and strongly criticising the policies of the US government.

[-] -1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6276) 1 year ago

This is just mindless right-wing ranting, packed with strawmen. Instead of quoting someone, wouldn't it be better if you a) stated your own opinions, and b) presented reasonable counter arguments to what Assange has actually said?

[-] 1 points by francismjenkins (3713) 1 year ago

Good video (like the radical dream team), also wound up watching another Assange interview with occupiers, good stuff !

[-] 0 points by beautifulworld (20502) 1 year ago

Great interview. Everyone should watch it.

[-] 0 points by shadz66 (17985) 1 year ago

"Evidence of a US Judicial Vendetta Against WikiLeaks Activists Mounts - Iceland's government warns MP not to visit the US, which tried to hack her Twitter account : Julian Assange has legitimate fears", by Birgitta Jónsdóttir : http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/03/evidence-us-judicial-vendetta-wikileaks-activists-mounts .

e tenebris ...

[-] 0 points by beautifulworld (20502) 1 year ago

Very interesting. Thanks.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (17985) 1 year ago

Please also see : "US May Execute Assange if it Gets Him – former NSA official 'After 9/11 NSA had secret deal with White House' : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article31807.htm .

amor vincit omnia ...

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20502) 1 year ago

Thanks, :)

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Good article - in it she says I don't know why they went after a member of Iceland's parliament.

I DO - because Iceland went after their criminal bankers and the USA has not. Iceland is on a good road to recovery and the USA is not.

[-] 0 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6276) 1 year ago

Spread it around, my friend :)