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Forum Post: Internet censorship?

Posted 4 years ago on June 30, 2013, 8:06 p.m. EST by Builder (4202)
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Is this being discussed at all?

(quote) The US News and World Report is reporting that the DoD is blocking access to all articles related to the NSA scandal from all DoD computers. The filter reportedly effects millions of computers and potentially thousands of alternative news and civil liberties websites.(unquote)




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[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 4 years ago

"How the NSA is still harvesting your online data'', by Glenn Greenwald and Spencer Ackerman :

''Files show vast scale of current NSA metadata programs, with one stream alone celebrating 'one trillion records processed''' and consider :

''NSA Collected US Email Records In Bulk For More Than Two Years Under Obama'', by Glenn Greenwald & Spencer Ackerman :

''The collection of these records began under the Bush administration's wide-ranging warrantless surveillance program, collectively known by the NSA codename Stellar Wind.

''According to a top-secret draft report by the NSA's inspector general – published for the first time today by the Guardian :

The Agency began - "collection of bulk internet metadata" involving "communications with at least one communicant outside the United States or for which no communicant was known to be a citizen of the United States". Further ...

"Follow the Money : The Secret Heart of the Secret State'', by Chris Floyd :

"Gil Scott-Heron " Work For Peace" [Short Video] :

Thanx for your forum-post and link 'B' & solidarity.

We must have NO fear and carry on regardless.

'We are many - they but few'.

e tenebris, lux ...

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 4 years ago

I thought DoD computers were closed circuit

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 4 years ago

Maybe not the ones they use for hacking into other nations 'puters?

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 4 years ago

I suppose not

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 4 years ago

Ok. I would love to jump up and down. I want to jump up and down. However, this "from all DoD computers" is preventing me from doing so.

Flip it.

If you have people who are accessing articles and websites from a DoD computer then what is the argument that we see in the media? Those lazy bums......and on our tax dollars, too.

Can't do it.

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 4 years ago

I thought along those lines for a while, GF.

I posted this because I want everyone to know just how easy it is to filter and censor the web, without anyone knowing that you're doing it.

How are you to know that what you're seeing in your searches isn't already being filtered?

My ISP cannot explain why video from utoob shuts down my connection.

[-] 2 points by forourfutures (393) 4 years ago

Mourn the loss of usenet. Recognize that it was created in the spirit of free speech, with tax dollars, then given over to corporations for "commerce". It was available after that (1994) but only with special software for some machines and special data from IP's.

A month ago or so it was removed completely. We loose BIGTIME.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 4 years ago

It's the DoD, Builder. You have an argument outside work but not one inside of work. Claiming censorship on the interwebs from work is not going to make it very far.

'Tho I agree with you on filtered searches. It already happens. I remember watching a Julian Assange show where he discusses this being the Age of the Filter. I don't need it.

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 4 years ago

I have found a workaround for some video content, but I'm clearly being targeted, and I (of course) think it sucks that my service provider is either playing dumb, or has no idea how it's being done without their knowledge.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 4 years ago

Just you or you and others?

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 4 years ago

Just me so far as I know.

I'm using the best mobile ISP on the market. Not a cheapy.

Their techies have done a remote access, and found nothing untoward.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 4 years ago

Ahah! Tried to post that on some other pages, and got blocked.

Thanks for the heads up, GF.


[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 4 years ago

'An Expanded Heist Trailer for the 99%' :

The full film is ~75m I believe but I am having a lot of trouble finding a link to it but this extended trailer is a step up to a previous link - which I've updated and added to and to which you kindly commented on :

I'm on the case & anticipate finding a link eventually 'B', ''keep spreading the news'' from 'NY NY' to everywhere else ;-) This is an important doc. in the style of 'Inside Job' - indeed I think that it is more imprtant than that in some ways as it is more 99% orientated & I'm very curious as to why it's proving so hard to find a working link to the whole film as 'copyright control' seems to be inordinately strict here.

e tenebris, lux ...

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 4 years ago

I dunno, I'll have a quick squiz myself.

If you can help with a quick physical soil test to detect glyphosate (roundup) in garden beds, I'd be completely overwhelmed with gratitude.

[-] 5 points by shadz66 (19985) 4 years ago

''Glyphosate, the active ingredient in Roundup herbicide, has recently been detected in groundwater samples (Catalonia, Spain) at such high levels that 41 percent of them exceeded the limits of quantification.

''Groundwater feeds springs, wells and aquifers – the natural source of drinking water -- and when contaminated, threatens the health of everyone who depends on it.

''Monsanto, the maker of Roundup, has long claimed that Roundup is safe and environmentally friendly, but recent studies show it does not readily break down in the environment and is now contaminating our air, rain, water and food.

''Glyphosate has been linked to more than 20 adverse health effects, including birth defects, infertility and cancer.

''You can reduce your exposure to glyphosate-containing herbicides by avoiding genetically modified food, which are heavily contaminated with it. It’s also a wise choice to have your well or city water tested for contaminants, and install a whole-house filtration system to remove pollutants.

''The quantity of glyphosate, the active ingredient in Roundup, in the environment has been difficult to analyze due to its physicochemical properties, such as its relatively low molecular weight and low organic solvent solubility.

''However, a recent study used a magnetic particle immunoassay to test for the presence of glyphosate in roughly 140 samples of groundwater from Catalonia, Spain.'' from :

Not really my field but your inquiry intrigued me so I set to it. Hope this helps. It does not sound cheap and prejudicially, I kept away from Far Eastern suppliers who offered kits but didn't back up with enough understandable science. In the end I've opted for the Norwegian / British suppliers because I could (just about) understand what they were saying. Solidarity 'B' and give 'pork bone puppy' a big 'ruffle' from me.

pax ...

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 4 years ago

Okay, blogged all those links, Shadz.

As usual, your depth of understanding is fathomless, and your accuracy in delivery brooks no discontent.

Thrash me for being so perfunctory. I have to lose that trait.

[-] 1 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 4 years ago

Is there anyway we can find out what is contained in these documents so we can attempt an evaluation?

[-] 0 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 4 years ago

What I want to know specifically is in what way Snowden is a traitor. What's contained in those documents?

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 4 years ago

Snowden is ONLY a traitor to those who are blind US-Firsters ; who are unconscionable nationalists and who'll forgive The U$A any and all crimes against morality, decency and basic ethics. Consider :

Glenn Greenwald has tweeted ( https://twitter.com/ggreenwald# ) that all of Snowden's revelations are now with the press who are deciding what to release and when. The USG's pursuit of Snowden is now all about vengeance, retribution, exemplary punishment and deterrence and fck all to do with 'justice'.

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by TikiJ (-38) 4 years ago

Snowden is pretty much doing what our hundreds of journalists are suppose to be doing. Exposing corruption.

Our level of whats acceptable is so far into the dirt.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 4 years ago

Yep & consider "The Criminal N.S.A.'' by Jennifer Stisa Granick and Christopher Jon Sprigman :

''THE twin revelations that telecom carriers have been secretly giving the National Security Agency information about Americans’ phone calls, and that the N.S.A. has been capturing e-mail and other private communications from Internet companies as part of a secret program called Prism, have not enraged most Americans. Lulled, perhaps, by the Obama administration’s claims that these “modest encroachments on privacy” were approved by Congress and by federal judges, public opinion quickly migrated from shock to “meh.”

''We may never know all the details of the mass surveillance programs, but we know this: The administration has justified them through abuse of language, intentional evasion of statutory protections, secret, unreviewable investigative procedures and constitutional arguments that make a mockery of the government’s professed concern with protecting Americans’ privacy. It’s time to call the N.S.A.’s mass surveillance programs what they are : criminal.''

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...



[-] 0 points by forourfutures (393) 4 years ago

If Internal insurrection, then block soldiers from what they might need to justify actions defending the constitution from a domestic enemy.

[-] -3 points by 51deadflies (-11) 4 years ago

It's hard to discuss Internet censorship here. Before we aim at improving the Internet at large, we need to solve the censorship problem on this very forum. Our activism should start in our own back yard, before we move on towards the neighbors. Proof is in the pudding, so let's start making nice pudding.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 4 years ago

Nah. What we need is one big ass fly swatter so you can be number 52.

[+] -4 points by 51deadflies (-11) 4 years ago

You shouldn't soil the forum with profanity. It harms everyone here. No need for kindergartener type insults. We are all adults here.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 years ago

If you were to respect your ban you multiple ID troll - there would be less cause for profanity here - as you wouldn't Be here.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago


Your puppets are what has been soiling the forum.

They are childish to the extreme.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 4 years ago

You shouldn't be a multiple ID cockroach. Pretty simple there.

[-] -3 points by JasonWyngarde (-2) 4 years ago

are you talking about Bensdad?

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 4 years ago

Right now, just you--cockroach.

[-] -2 points by JasonWyngarde (-2) 4 years ago

Well, me and 51deadflies actually, but math is hard. That's two people, not one.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 years ago

"That's two people, not one."

Is it?


[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 4 years ago

So, you're another piece of shit cockroach. Doesn't change anything.


[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 years ago

Before we aim at improving the Internet at large, we need to solve the censorship problem on this very forum.

ABSOLUTELY - Problem = banned individuals continuing to return to fuck around - How Do We Get Bans To Be Permanent?

BTW - Problem - Thanks for bringing up your problem - ummm - bringing up a problem you cause.