Forum Post: If Romney had won by three (3) votes, what would the GOP be saying?
Posted 11 years ago on Nov. 11, 2012, 1:14 p.m. EST by brightonsage
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Come on. Get real. It would be, "We must purge all of those subversive lefties": And. "It's our mandate to make abortion punishable by death." And, "Round up those illegals and ship them back to California where they came from." And, "Let's investigate Congress to find out who is Anti American." And, "If you don't support the President of the United States, you are a traitor." And, "Privatize the death panels." And, "Finally, no taxes for the rich." And, "Draft the poor and send them to Afghanistan."
I am sure you can think of more obvious slogans that would surely come from the compassionate conservative "winners."
But now, you know they, being the most patriotic Americans, will rally behind the President, the only President that we have, that "we the people" elected with 332 electoral votes to 206 because they love America more than everyone else and will implement his policies with all of their heart and soul, because they know that even if he calls a bad play, that if the team runs it with a total commitment, we will ALL score? Hmmmmm. They do love America, all of it, don't they?
This sounds OT - but it is not
How many centuried DID it take for the church to ADMIT that the Earth is not the center of the universe. FACTS can be proven true of false
BELIEFS live on
Remember that the church owned essentially all of the media (art, literature etc.) Now the 1% owns all of the media including the biggest Tokyo Rose propaganda media outlet Faux News. the WSJ etc. How many centuries do we have again?
If Romney had won, the "progressives" would have started speaking out and protesting when Romney did the same things they make excuses for when Obama does them.
Ha, ha , ha. Good one. Not the question.
If Romney had won, what would have happened to the SCOTUS in future? Too frightening to dwell on!
That doesn't matter to these white pampered abstentionists who spend all day posting here. Them, they got it real good.
What's their colour got to do with it? I'll bet there were plenty of people of all colours who did not vote - over a third of the electorate actually. I do not blame people for having no faith in elected duopoly politics but IF we all voted, the whole politics of this country would become much more progressive. That is why voter suppression will continue to be a huge issue going forward and why apathy is nurtured by the 1% and their MSM. Leave colour out of it and work for a real 99% rainbow alliance.
Wa state has all mail in ballots.
We don't have to wait in lines, can drop off free at collection boxes, and we have 2-3 weeks to research and decide.
States might have better results if they choose to go mail voting. At least you don't have to wait in line, and we do have a paper trail ballot.
Great point and why do we not have 'paper trail ballot' everywhere? I have kin in Seattle and I love WA. Y'all need to do some 'outreach' towards the rest of us!
The political abstentionists often cite these millions who do not vote. I would be impressed with these non voters if I saw them active in something like Occupy or DSA or We Are Change or Workers World or the Revolutionary Communist Party or any activist organization. Then I could say yes, truly the most advanced segments of the society have moved past elections. Then I would have to once again catch up to them. The fact is though we are talking about people who up till now have not stirred themselves from their stupor. their television, their video games, their beer, their marijuana, etc. and may not do so until after the final battle is won, when they see who won and try to join thaat side.
Duopoly is Destroying our Democracy! That is the reality. I'm not an 'abstentionist' myself because I still perhaps foolishly believe that voting can change things but we need more parties and at least one or two to represent 'labor'. This current corporate duopoly only represents capital and will never serve the 99%!
I agree that the act of voting is of little consequence. In this case, as I have said before, which was the first time I voted in a Presidential election since 1968, the issue was pretty clear to me: Stopping the momentum of a coalition of "legitimate rapists", gay basher, haters of black people, despisers of the poor.That was done in spite of the overwhelming advantage they had in Wall Street and billionaire money. If anything has dented "citizen's united" it is the outcome of this election. Sheldon Adelson and the Koch brothers and the Wall Street crowd were reminded "you can't fool all of the people all of the time."
The individual's act of voting is perhaps materially 'of little consequence' BUT together, collectively - something else IS possible. As you point out yourself, the 99% (or some fraction of them) gave Wall Street and the Kochs a bloody nose this time. We, the 99% need to be the 'citizens united' and remove these usurpers. I have get to get to feeding the crew now, so happy holiday and solidarity to you. Never Give Up! GO OCCUPY!
If you are involved in Occupy Sandy or some other relief effort, God be with you my friend.
Oh no! I didn't mean 'crew' like that, lol - I meant the six teenagers and various others that I will now start making dinner for! Sorry to disappoint you but God be with you too, friend :)
If you are a mom or a dad or caregiver to kids or any person at all you are golden in my book!
I have to be all of those things sometimes because there's only one of me and six of them: 3 of my own, 2 adopted and 1 nephew, so it can be exhausting but it's also rewarding. Thank you for your kind words.
You are Royalty in my view, in the very best sense of that word.
'Royalty'? I'm not at all sure that there is a 'best sense of that word' so thanks but no thanks 'cause they are the top of the tree parasites! Still thanks for your kind words and here's an article from another post, which I really liked - http://wagingnonviolence.org/2012/01/how-swedes-and-norwegians-broke-the-power-of-the-1-percent/ . Regards to you and yours and I'm away to my work now. Peace.
you're right. I shouldn't call my little granddaughter a "princess" either, I guess, even though she wants to be one.
Lol! Call her 'princess' all you like, she'll grow out of it soon enough but also teach her (as I'm sure you do) how to love, how to care, how compassion and love beats fear and hate, how we are all dependent on each other and this beautiful planet and how we all are part of making things better and safer for all our futures. Don't do that all at once though, it could be too much! Blessings of peace to you, 'princess' and all your loved ones.
They are active in Occupy you nitwit.
All three hundred of them.
At this point with current numbers, 300 would be nice.
There you go, you've only reinforced my point. If the non voters were truly more advanced than the voters - if they were activist and proactive revolutionaries or even activist liberals, well, I'd have to say that the vote is nothing more than a distraction from the struggle, and that the masses are more advanced now. I am saying that overwhelmingly these non voters just aren't all that interested in changing the world, and the fact that they are legion is a bad thing, not a good thing.
There is difference between those who dont vote because they are too lazy/just dont care and those that see this as a totally busted system.
I know quite a few people who dont vote who could talk circles around the average voter, and do way more for their communities too.
All depends on the individual.
Look, you thought that if only three hundred of these ninety million non voters would get active with Occupy it would be a terrific thing! I'd say if one half of one percent got busy in any progressive movement at all the world would change and the electoral system would be left in the dust.
OWS should have organized a apolitical write-in; if y'all like Adam Smith than run him; run Oprah, run Assange, run Glenn Hobbs, Machiavelli, who cares - but send a message on the order of millions.
'Write-in ballots' are a really good idea but a paper ballot trail is essential for that and I think that hand counted paper ballots are the last safe guard of our failing democracy. How do you 'write-in' on a Diebold machine? After only a year OWS has done a lot but yes, there is much left to do too.
Most paper ballots today are scanned.
A supervised hand counted physical paper ballot count is THE best, most auditable and secure method of exercising our vote. Electronic systems do not even come close to being as transparent or effective and their real purpose is malign. Period.
I agree; I don't like the scanners, either. We all know these can be hacked, controlled remotely, and even modified to yield a specific result.
Electronic Voting, what IS the point? We have plenty of good people who can be called up to help with a manual count come election time - hell, we could even pay them for their time! We would also have the physical ballots to recount on any challenge and for audit and there could be a blank 'write in' box too.
We can't trust a digital vote; we have no idea at this point who won this election.
We can be sure of who LOST the election though, right, lol? Just how sure are you really about both GDubyaBush's election 'victories'? That is where digital voting shenanigans really started and not to at least see if not accept that point would make you a what, a Republican? Remember Florida 2000 or Ohio 2004?
I remember FL vividly; not an issue with me - Gore bombed in the last week, caught in lies. And I definitely don't care about Ohio.
The point is I do not trust the digital vote.
Well, we at least agree on something, lol! No to digital shenanigans; yes to manual counting paper voting slips.
I believe cheating is possible either way. In the end electronic w/ paper trail and the ability to individually check our votes is probably the best way.
Why electronic voting? What purpose is really served by that? Are digital voting machines more or less secure? So again, from above: ' A supervised hand counted physical paper ballot count is THE best, most auditable and secure method of exercising our vote. Electronic systems do not even come close to being as transparent or effective and their real purpose is malign.' - and - 'Electronic Voting, what IS the point? We have plenty of good people who can be called up to help with a manual count come election time - hell, we could even pay them for their time! We would also have the physical ballots to recount on any challenge and for audit and there could be a blank 'write in' box too.' Please think on it.
Thank you very much.
Peace to you. And good luck in all your good efforts.
Consider this. Banks have gone to electronic transactions wherever possible. They have managed to assure security and expand to enormous sizes. People counting introduces millions of potential cheaters.
Peace
I just think that the problem with vote counting is always people problems. If we stay with physical people counts we have millions of potential people problems.
With electronic voting we only have the people involved with the programming to "watch" We can pay people to verify programming and vote security a lot easier than watching millions of vote counters.
That's all I'm saying.
I disagree very strongly for reasons already explained. There are always 'people problems' in human affairs and please reread my previous reply. Peace.
Manual paper and redundant oversight.
And your point is? Please read my reply to VQkag above and reflect a little. Thanks.
And you think white lefties should be what - black?
No, just pro black.
Do you mean then anti-white?
No nitwit, just anti white privilege and anti white arrogance. A lot of whites will read that as being against themselves, but it's an appeal to white people's decency and humanity.
Oh sure, of course it is... but this goes back to a question I asked initially - if I have but one job and two applicants, one black and one white, who do I give that job to? If I give it, as some suggested, fairly, to the most qualified, and he or she just happens to be white, will you still label me as "pro black"? Well, possibly. But if this should by coincidence happen repeatedly, you definitely will not. The point is, your version of pro black will at some point require that I be anti-white; likewise to be pro white is to be anti black. Who created this madness anyway? In the modern era, with its many avenues of equal opportunity, why does the Left continue to stoke the fire of difference? Again to insist that I am pro black is to insist that I be anti-white, and I understand the cultural struggle, but I cannot promote another over my own; evolution will not permit me to do this.
That's how you view things, from the point of view of a white nationalist. You really should be banned from this forum. (But they won't ban you. The Canadians save that for people who annoy DKA, another white nationalist).
Fuck Off ShitHead2.
Gee, did I hit a raw nerve? Hope I did.
Shubee-do-be-dooo. Stick your head back up your (x).
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got that?
This isn't nationalism; it's identity. We identify as "white" people. And this occurs precisely because of difference.
It occurs because you have received the stolen patrimony of colonized peoples and you want to believe that you've "earned" that loot.
Oh believe me, I've earned every bit of the "loot" I've gotten.
Patrimony, you mean as in Gay marriage?
I'm talking about the land you stand on, the rights you have, the advantages over others in housing, jobs, the justice system, inheritance of living in a home with decent conditions and education. Perhaps an extra inside track (other than being white) in some job, deal, purchase, school? Not all whites have that one. These are all things that are called "advantages." When you have them because of who you were born to you haven't "earned" them. "Advantages" are things that the "disadvantaged" don't have. That's why they're called "disadvantaged."
While all of these things you mention may truly be "advantages," they are yet all things we have worked for.
My white advantage got me a futon to live on in someone's basement at 18; it afforded me no employment advantage whatsoever, there were no inside tracks; nor did it afford me an educational advantage, quite the opposite, it denied me affordable access freely granted to minorities.
So I think you are way off base here... and NOW you as "Pro Black" are insisting that we who have both worked from the very bottom up, and given, give more... "disadvantaged" is just total and complete bullshit.
He didn't say anything like that. Stop putting words in his mouth, trying to make trouble.
Thanks for going to bat with me on this post.
no prob. That particular user just attacks. He ain't really worth expending much energy on. But I had to respond to his mischaracterizing comment.
Well, what is he saying? Is he saying that if I have one job available and two applicants, that I should grant that job to the black guy? Is he saying that in the struggle for healthcare, that I should withhold tax from my white employee so we can give those dollars to black man who did not get my job?
In the struggle for resources (emphasis on struggle because as we all know there are not enough to go around) how does one be pro-black without being anti-white?
It is not a zero sum game. In fact there is plenty enough to go around for all races.
Suggesting there ain't enough sounds like the conservative strategy of using fear to get support for selfish, greedy, anti people policies.
Most of us are smart enough to recognize that people who are scared get more conservative. This is why republicans are fear mongering propagandists.
So if there are 2 applicants for one job, hire the best one.
Healthcare?, create a public option? it would be the cheapest method of delivering healthcare. Those who pay taxes will always pay for those who don't. (regardless of color, since most unemployed non tax payers are white)
Ok?
Oh really? You should tell that to the unemployed. Tell it to the people who have no healthcare. Tell them both black and white that there is plenty to go around; really - they'll be very glad to hear that.
This particular election cycle has put increased pressure on white against black and black against latino; all so a party could stay in power to expand their monied agenda.
no increased pressure between races. Maybe in your mind. Andthose who lean towards racial issues.
And what I would tell the unemployed is that there IS plenty to go around, but the top 1% have hoarded it all over the last 30 years.
Time to get OUR money back.
Are you with us?. Equity, fairness, justice!
You don't think black and latinos lean towards racial issues? As in greater opportunity?
You'll never get your tax dollars back; they're gone. NY currently I think gets some 95% back, the problem is that none of it goes to the people who paid those taxes. They reap a virtually zero benefit.
NY has always paid more to the fed govt than we get back. We accept that because we are one the wealthiest states.
And no black & latino Americans are not thinking about racial issues. They are thinking about the same issues all people do. Jobs, healthcare, justice,
So you are wrong! Again, As always.
You could be right; it could be it's just white people that think this way or in terms of us against them, us against the world, etc. If you've studied immigration law and politics you'll realize that the struggle has always targeted others on which to hang animosity in a world of far too little opportunity.
When the party you associate with is always filling your head with fear that the other groups are out to get you (your job, you property, your tax dollars) you can't be blamed.
They know if they keep you scared you will be more conservative and more easily support the selfish agenda they offer.
Don't believe the hype. We're all in this together. Race is not the delineation, it's the 1% who want us to fight over race so wedon't focus on them while they take our money.
I don't associate with a party; I have never accepted this party which continuously favors the corporations over the working class; the conservatives have amended their agenda in ways I cannot support, and I will never accept the moral dystopia, or dystopia in general, of the current ruling party.
Now you are scaring me.
That has been scaring me for well over a year but now I can share more easily. I made the point until I was blue in the face because I live in a swing state but it went blue too so my facial colour is back to normal now - pale and sun starved until spring!
My battle ground went blue, too. I am just afraid Scalia, Kennedy and Thomas will still be there next election.
Just imagine Thomas, Scalia, Roberts and Kennedy with three new mini-me's! Pretty frightening, huh? I do not generally wish ill on people but honestly - one or more of those kicks the bucket any time soon and I'm throwing a party and as you'll recall, you're invited. The SCOTUS is a big problem for the 99%.
I will hitchhike through a blizzard.
The SCOTUS changes and I'll load a banquet on my trucks and me and the kids will meet you half way and party on! In point of fact, I'm about to hit the kitchen and feed the team now so here's hoping for a better tomorrow for us all, wherever we are.
Deal, I'll drink to that. We have a window to start making the changes so that we deserve the government we want.
Right on 'brigton' and for a very 'sage' comment, please read this - http://occupywallst.org/forum/i-do-not-believe-you-can-build-a-movement-on-a-lie/#comment-874847 & happy holiday :)
That is an excellent post. The debt problem could and should be addressed by major cuts in the defense budget and both parties refuse to even mention that. If we cut defense spending to equal that of China (supposedly our biggest potential adversary.) or if we are still paranoid, to that of Russia and China combined, or if we are psychotically paranoid, to that of the five largest countries defense spending, we could still cut it by $400 BILLION per year. That works out to an even $4trillion added to the $4 trillion that Obama already cut and you have cut, not just the deficit, but the actual DEBT in half in ten years modest increases thereafter would allow the entire debt to be paid off in another ten years. $300 billion still being spent would still look crazy big and threatening to other countries. No doubt that we could negotiate cuts by the Chinese, Russians and others in nuclear weapons, navies, and tactical weapons if we would cut ours that much, which would actually decrease our risk. And no, I am not interested in being Secretary of Defense,
The 'excellent post' in question was written by Buttercup on this thread - http://occupywallst.org/forum/i-do-not-believe-you-can-build-a-movement-on-a-lie/ .Your great point about our simply massive military expenditure is absolutely fundamental and should never be ignored. How can we address any budgetary issues without addressing this matter? Thank you for your important comment.
LOL
Now yes, I can too but it was more frightening than I can explain until only a few days ago! It has come to something that things not getting much worse too soon is as much as we hope for & so such a relief!
The corpoRATs lost on their big money buy out attempt. It "IS" a huge relief.
But we gotta continue the program of outreach and education as well as continuing campaigns like Move to Amend - and starting new campaigns - like kicking progress blocking politicians out of office.
I support 'Move To Amend' but sadly I can't believe or agree that 'the corpoRATs lost on their big money buy out attempt'. Corporations own the DemParty too at the upper level. There is really a big disconnect between Dem voters like me and the party machine. I support The Green Party but in swing OH, I had no options. Corporations are legal entities and they are so powerful because they are backed by laws that they help to write. The SCOTUS factor is massive and we need change there asap.
We need to continue the education outreach and campaigns.
Tweeted today : If there isn't a Hoarding Wealth Issue - then what is the over 30 trillion hidden off shore all about?
'If there isn't a Hoarding Wealth Issue - then what is the over 30 trillion hidden off shore all about?' - I don't know about 'tweeting' but that needs shouting out LOUDLY! Nice one.
I have had 2 small news services ask to follow me in the last 2 days. Share information on social media Folks.
The kids do 'facebook' but 'social media' is all too mysterious for me. Hope you can 'tweet' some of the excellent posts and threads here.
I do tweet good posts and many many articles and videos and such.
Getting to a wider audience. Outreach. Share/Circulate.
What's that about? The news services, I mean. They want to follow you on Twitter?
Yeah - I have a few that have asked to follow my twitter account - a couple just recently.
That's excellent. Keep up the good fight (computer probs, or I would've answered sooner!).
I love it when something can have such impact - Love it more when something turned out by the corrupt - turns around and bites em.
[-] 1 points by gnomunny (3736) from St Louis, MO 3 minutes ago
They certainly didn't! I can't get over the fact that the web was invented by the government and now is turning into their worst nightmare. Well, not the worst probably but you know what I mean. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink
Yep.
Absolutely amazing - who knew how powerful/useful social media could be?
[-] 3 points by gnomunny (3736) from St Louis, MO 7 minutes ago
They didn't but OWS did. That's amazing, imo. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink
They certainly didn't! I can't get over the fact that the web was invented by the government and now is turning into their worst nightmare. Well, not the worst probably but you know what I mean.
Yep - the MSM sure as hell didn't change the conversation in this country this last year.
[-] 2 points by gnomunny (3736) from St Louis, MO 0 minutes ago
I believe social media is a big game changer. The dissemination of info is one of our greatest assets. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink
They didn't but OWS did. That's amazing, imo.
Well good to see you have the problems fixed. I've actually had a couple of senators request to follow in the past. You never know who is gonna see what and then respond when you post on social media.
I believe social media is a big game changer. The dissemination of info is one of our greatest assets.
I'm sorry, I thought Romney lost. Based on what I have been hearing from his supporters, the choice between two visions for moving forward was a close contest, therefore they won. Hmmmmm. A 332 to 206 result equals a mandate for the 206 guys? Curious.
that there is an overwhelming mandate to stay the course
"If you don't support the President of the United States, you are a traitor."
Unless the president is only half caucasian and a democrat. Then he's a Muslim socialist from Kenya even though he's shown his birth certificate, had to denounce his former Christian minister to get elected, has continued Bush regime policies, and strongly admires Ronald Reagan. Then you absolutely must oppose him and get him out of the White House in 2012 and cry and propose a treasonous march on Washington upon failing.
Oh, I forgot. OK, then. Let's see that diploma and the transcripts.
The problem of the tone of this thread is it just causes trouble. Not constructive. The problem is we as a nation are so split between the left and right that nothing gets done. The hate between the left and right is so venomous there is no room for reasonable discussion. Both side would rather see the country go up in flames rather than talk to the other side. Unless you haven’t noticed, Americans are split approximately 50 – 50, conservative and liberal. So if we hate each other so much what do expect the politicians to do?
I say it’s time to stop the name calling and fist shaking and try to work together. Alas, that’s probably not going to happen with threads like this being the norm.
First there isn't any name calling in it. Second, some of the comments are essentially quotes we have already heard or are paraphrases of what we have heard. The point is that since the election, the hyperbole of eminent disaster has been gathering momentum. The GOP were so sure that Obama either was discredited by his actions or through their lies (birthers etc.) but when he got reelected, in spite of their efforts, he became legitimate again. So, if the House considers continuing their total obstruction, they have gone beyond the excesses of campaign rhetoric into something more serious. Then they really are acting against the interests of the legitimate government of the United States. That is a lot more harmful than my satirizing their past tactics. They aren't attacking a political adversary but the government that the majority of the country just reelected. That debate is over.
In that context, we should go back to debating policy and all of it is fair game.
What shouldwe do about the tax cut issue facing the nation?
We have a bill to extend all tax cuts for people who make under $250k annually.
Should we pass it?
Without discussing left or right, conservative, or liberal. What would you advise our politicians to do?. And why?
I don’t care one way or another if they pass it. It won’t make a difference. I’d much rather see the tax loop holes for corporations closed. That would be more significant; and that’s something most people would get behind.
Oh so most people would say "I don't want to extend my tax cuts, I just want corps to lose loopholes"?
Is that what you expect me to believe?
Sounds like the republican position. Why can't we have both? What happened to working together?
The tax cut extension or increased taxes for those making 250K won’t make a dent. Neither matter in the bigger picture of a 16 trillion debt. We need a new tax code, one without all the loopholes for individuals and corporations. But mostly we just need to cut spending to the bone. Spending is the problem; and raising taxes won’t fix the spending problem.
Actually I don’t know why I got into this discussion. My belief is the economy is too far gone for the politicians to fix. We’re past political solutions. Not only on the economy, but also on most social issues. I think the economy will fail. It’s too late to fix it. That has all kinds of connotations. Maybe we’ll get luck and we’ll have a soft landing, but I’m not holding my breath.
So what should we do?
Is it time to hoard food & ammo?
Buy gold? build a bunker?
I don’t know what we can do at this point. I doubt anything we do will solve the 16 trillion dollar debt. I also don’t believe it’s time to start hoarding food and prepping for an EOTWAWKI event; at least not yet. If SHTF occurs as so many people seem to be talking about these days, it’ll most likely be in slow motion, taking several years. The government will implement several stop gap measures to stall a hard, overnight, financial collapse.
So to more directly answer your question. I don’t know what to do. And all the fortuneteller who seem to know what the future brings are just making their best guess. For me personally, I already own lots of guns and ammo. Former hunter and gun hobbyist who still likes to play with guns. I also own a small farm, but now live in town to be near the kids and grandkids. If I had to, I at least, have a place to go if SHTF occurs.
Things will get worse the government will do what it can and the conservatives and liberals will continue to want to kill each other. Good day.
Also, unrelated. Several web sites have mentioned citizen petitions are being submitted to the presidential web site requesting states be allowed to secede from the US. I read citizens from twenty States have submitted petitions and collecting signatures. I don’t know how valid this is, but I seen it twice, once on youtube.
You gonna sign?
Oh hell no. I don’t want to be put on the no fly list or some other potential subversive list. Getting paranoid in my old age I guess. Besides, it’s just a bunch of disgruntled Romney fans throwing a tantrum.
Oh but if you could do it without any penalties you would right?
You would like to secede wouldn't you? Which states are the 20 states.?
Do you think they would succeed? Maybe if they all moved to one state they could try.
Do you think we would let them secede?
Or would beat there sorry racist asses, like we did the 150 years ago?
Aaaaaaaaah ha ha ha ha ha!
Obama is going to extend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and he has no choice. The majority of his campaign funds came from the 1% and now it is payback time, he owes them the favor and will keep his promise
Ok. If you say so. Is that what you want? Do you think the House should pass the tax cut extension for those who make under $250k?
It is something that he will do to pay back the 1%'s (his buds) for voting for him and contributing to his campaign. Obama only cares about the rich and used the poor and middle class to get a second term
Yeah I heard you.
Do you think the House should pass the tax cut extension for those who make under $250k?
I do not but your hero obama does
Why? Are you against tax cuts for the middle class.? Sounds like repub talking points. Are you a repub plant?
I am not but by time obama is done there will only be two classes of Americans, the very rich and the very poor
Irrelevant nonsense.
So your not against middle class tax cuts but do not support the House passing the middle class tax cut extension?
Because Pres Obama wants it?
Please take your morning meds before you make any more comments
Personal attacks already? That was a quick beating. You lose. Can't argue the facts? HA! Smoked your sorry racist ass as always!.
So your not against middle class tax cuts but do not support the House passing the middle class tax cut extension?
Why?