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Forum Post: If Anonymous says so it must be true! Why we must pursue the failed attempts to rig the election.

Posted 1 year ago on Nov. 20, 2012, 8:51 p.m. EST by VQkag2 (16478)
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[-] 3 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

Eric Holder, this is OWS, ARREST ROVE NOW!! The reason for Rove's meltdown on Fox are now clear. He couldn't understand what was going wrong with his electoral fraud rigging - as far as he knew it should have been going live right then.

Anonymous has laid it all out, the whole trail. You are the chief prosecutor of the land, right? Arrest Rove (and possibly Romney), now!

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

If only! I would pressure any prosecution of cheating. We'll see.

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

Cross posted from http://occupywallst.org/forum/eric-holder-arrest-rove-now-we-have-him-before-dur/ :

Amazing. It's all laid out.


'Anonymous' to Rove: 'We Are Watching You, We Know That You Will Attempt to Rig the Election' http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9672

Anonymous puts Karl Rove on notice http://www.democraticunderground.com/101772948


"“We coded and created, what we call The Great Oz. A targeted password protected firewall that we tested and refined over the past weeks. We placed this code on more than one of the digital tunnels and their destination that Karl's not so smart worker bees planned to use on election night.”

Anonymous alleges these “digital tunnels” were leading to servers in three different states. The release goes on to detail what happened on election night as Rove’s operatives attempted to access these tunnels. “We watched as Karl's weak corrupters repeatedly tried to penetrate The Great Oz. These children of his were at a loss-how many times and how many passwords did they try-exactly 105.”

“Karl’s speared ORCA whale was breached, rotting with a strong stench across his playground, unable to be resuscitated,” claims Anonymous." http://truth-out.org/news/item/12845-anonymous-karl-rove-and-2012-election-fix


Karl Rove's election night melt-down over Ohio results on Fox News https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TwuR0jCavk

Karl Rove's Fox News Meltdown Was The Best TV Of Election Night http://www.buzzfeed.com/kateaurthur/karl-rove-was-so-karl-rove-on-fox-news-tuesday

"So might this have really been the reason for Karl Rove’s shock on election night? Under the guise of sophisticated get out the vote operation, had Rove and the Republican Party actually built up a massive system to steal the Ohio election, just like in 2004, only to have it thwarted at the last minute by a group of computer hackers?

If this is true, then the implications are enormous and could take down the entire Republican Party and finally wake Americans up to the fact that our privatized vote system is shockingly flawed and insecure." http://truth-out.org/news/item/12845-anonymous-karl-rove-and-2012-election-fix

More: http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2012/1954 http://www.justice-integrity.org/218-did-expert-witness-activists-thwart-a-rove-ohio-vote-plot


[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

Arrest Holder too

And just about the entire Congress for their role in treason against the people of the USA

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

In that case, perhaps Holder should arrest Rove to protect himself. You know, prove his oath of office means something.

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

He'd have to do a lot more than that. But that would be a good start.

[-] 1 points by shooz (17782) 1 year ago

Don't forget lots of governors, secretaries of state and state justices too!!!! It was NEVER exclusively about federal government.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

You're exactly right. The justice system in my hometown is fucked. They let off a bunch of rich child molesters in the 90's. Franklin Credit Union Scandal.


[-] 1 points by shooz (17782) 1 year ago

Our hometowns and States are the true roots of the system.

Here in Michigan we voted to repeal Snyder's ability to usurp locally elected officials, and yet he is hard at work trying to find a way around that repeal.

This is the behavior of a dictator.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

My Congressman works for Transcanada. Corruption runs deep.

[-] -1 points by shooz (17782) 1 year ago

That's the behavior of a CEO.

[-] -1 points by mapleLaneser (-120) 1 year ago

Rove would make an excellent VP and maybe Gov Walker as the Pres

[-] -1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Be carefule of anonymous messages, there is no telling who is behind them. It very well could be Rove himself, in order to further divide and conquer.

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

Yeah, there's just no telling who's who. There are even posters here with over 3,000 comments who are actually RATpublican troll pieces of garbage. Just can't trust nobody nowadays!

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

If hiphop isnt your thing, here's an awesome channel with new dubstep, DnB and Electro mixes you might like....I dont do the hiphop too much anymore, mostly listen to this type of stuff...

I didnt hear any of this coming out of venues that were rented out in Tampa here by the old stodgy white guys....


[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Ya, the dude from Rochester who's 30 and grew up listening to hiphop and smoking pot is probably a Republican. Great scoop.

More divide and conquer techniques up your sleeve? Or just plain lies, CNN and FOX like those too.

Actually, I think I heard this as the intro for Romney at the RNC!!!!


"Drop the mic man you shouldnt be holdin it"

Ur an idiot.

[-] 2 points by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL 1 year ago

If that second article is true, the one where LBJ knew Nixon was committing treason in order to get elected, as well as the Reagan/Bush1/Bush2 revelations, then it needs to be on the front page of every newspaper in the country.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Yeah. Not likely gonna happen. And that isn't the 1st time we've seen those suggestions.

[-] 1 points by LeoYo (5845) 1 year ago

I just posted one of these to you. Glad you already had it.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago


[-] 1 points by doitagain (234) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

dont you understand the trick with election fix??? This is not what Romney said or had done. Whole media and government machine which brought to you "genuine" selected candidates. The people choice was predicted in advance. This is the trick, when no third party candidates been able to have a chance to fly state to state for presidential campaign

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

It's horrible. Much change in election/campaign law must occur. The 2 parties prevent any real 3rd party access.

This thread is about vote rigging specifically.

You should read the articles. It matters.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13362) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

Personally I consider any massive attempt to subvert the will of the people at the polls as a form of Treason and as such does merit Capital Punishment.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Aaaaaargh. Pain & death. Let's line 'em up & beat them bloody.

[-] -1 points by RedDragon (-161) 1 year ago

Well I'll tell you one thing: in winning this election, the Dems have failed even themselves. Of the richest fifteen in Congress, ten are Dems; virtually all of them, under their own leadership, have lost money over the last year.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Who cares how much money the pols have?. I never hear those specific complaints. I hear valid complaints about corrupt favors for 1% oligarch campaign contributors. But the amount of money pols have is just a distraction.

The important thing is the agenda/policy/actions a particular pol supports.

So it is up to the people to pressure all pols to implement change that benefits the 99%.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

So you started this thread why exactly?

Who cares how much money they have? Really???

What about how much influence they have? I don't expect you to answer.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I have to explain again?. Please just read the comments. It's the issues/policy/votes of a pol that matters to me. Not their money.

Obviously, corruption, unfair influence/favors is a critical issue. But I think a low income pol could be guilty of that as well.

I started the thread because it was a new story about the cheating that we should all stay aware of. Especially between elections we must stay active if we want to create a new system that is fair.

Do you agree?

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

You are slip-sliding away, again.


[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I guess you have no intelligent response.

Oh well. That was short.

Issues are what matters. I can't hate people for their wealth. Why do you?

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

And that statement clearly shows why you get so much flak from us on this forum.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago


I get flak because people don't like my opinions! And they can't handle logical, civil discourse.

That's on you & your friends not me.

[-] -2 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 1 year ago

It's so cute that you think you understand logical, civil discourse.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Please. You would not know it if it slapped you upside your dishonorable head.

[-] -1 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 1 year ago

See? Adorable really!

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

You have no honor!

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

forum still buzzing ?

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Happy thanks giving

What are you giving thanks for.?

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

What do you mean?

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

I can see that it is

recent comments only go back 34 minutes

[-] 0 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 1 year ago

You have no idea!

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Off topic, not intelligent, personal.

You've been smoked?

Where a pol stands on Issues! not the amount of their wealth is the measure!

Get it straight.

[-] -1 points by RedDragon (-161) 1 year ago

Well, do you want to know what I hear?

I hear, "They're cutting our medicare benefits."

I hear, "I can't afford this medication."

I hear, "I lost half of my retirement account when the market crashed."

I hear, "Savings accounts don't pay ANYTHING any more." (I hear this one everyday.)

I hear, "First they took our investments and now they're taking my savings."

I hear, "Low interest rates don't benefit us because we don't want to borrow money."

I hear, "Congress is growing richer in leaps and bounds on the backs of the poor."

I care how much money the politicians have; all of the above care about how much money politicians have. Because they write the laws and hold not only the purse strings but also our monetary policy itself. They are corrupt and they are growing their wealth on the backs of the poor and the middle class.

Occupy should care because they want to right inequity in this world but they can't.

And if you harbor undying loyalty to any of those in Congress you are antithetical to the cause, antithetical to everything Occupy.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I care about the policies that affect these anti 99% burdens. The income of congress is only an issue if we find corruption/favors for the 1% oligarchs.

So the policies are what matters.

I'm not against anyone because of the wealth they have. Are you?

[-] 0 points by RedDragon (-161) 1 year ago

I most definitely am when they gain that wealth on the backs of the poor and middle class as this Congress does.

The poor will not survive without a middle class; who will pay these taxes when we are also poor? Do you really believe the rich are going to voluntarily provide support for 250 mil Americans?

This Congress has cost Americans billions, while simultaneously their wealth has grown in leaps and bounds - they are the 1%.

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Sounds more like a weak distraction to protect the real criminals. The 1% oligarchs who control so many of our politicians are the problem.

We must force OUR govt (pols) to pass progressive laws that benefit the 99%. And any who serve the 1% oligarchs as you suggest (and I agree) must be voted out & replaced with pro 99% progressives.


[-] -1 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 1 year ago

Who says they failed? What makes you think that the Dems didn't just "out rig" the Republicans?

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Because the evidence across 40 states was against republicans, and the specific voting machine tampering in 3 particular states was also pointing to republicans.

Didja read the articles?

[-] -1 points by freakyfriday (179) 1 year ago

That's funny. The articles I read described machines "defautling" to the Divider-in-Chief in Ohio, FL, and NC.

Oh yeah, IL too.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Let me see the link.

Here is the one of the PA machines the switched to Roney.


Funny huh?

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (34909) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

What? I saw a picture of mittens pumping his own gas....................

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

How rewarding was that? Also in the twilght movie, and having pizza (probably papa johns)

[-] -3 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 1 year ago

Read these.


Point being, if the stupid, uneducated, racist, idiots (just some of the terms used to describe Republicans here) can figure it out...and pull it off...what the CRAP makes you think the smart, educated, bigoted, intelligentsia couldn't? Or are they just so saintly in your eyes that they simply WOULD not? Grow up.

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

This is one of YOUR articles that in fact refutes the obama cheating propaganda.


I'll read more later but I doubt there will anything there.

[-] -1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Are you still playing partisan politics?

And how does it make any difference?

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Cheating is a big deal. The difference is a valid representative govt or not. I encourage all people to stay involved even after the election.

We have to stay awake between elections. One way of doing that is being aware of election fraud, and election/campaign law.

For instance if we want to create fair access for 3rd party candidates we must stay aware and active on the very important issues of election/campaign law

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

For instance? Stay aware of yourself.

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Is that a clumsy insult directed at me?

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

No, kag. The clumsy is not directed at anybody.

Get this. I'm not here to get you. You're doing a great job on your own.

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

How so? because I agitate to pressure all pols for progressive change that benefits the 99%?

because I encourage replacing all pro 1% politicians w/ pro 99% politicians?

Because I won't hate pols because of their wealth, but rather only for their positions on the issues?

Because I don't buy your distraction that it is the pols not the 1% oligarchs?

LMFAO. Which is it.?

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Which is it? I said you're doing a great job on your own.

Are you saying that I'm a liar? Are you not doing a great job on your own?

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

How I'm doing is for others to measure. Much too egotistical for me. My preference is to be self critical in order to be better.

You said "Get this. I'm not here to get you. You're doing a great job on your own." in regards to my query of "Is that a clumsy insult directed at me?"

You think I'm trying to insult myself?

Try again.

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

The Dems have the numbers. The reason the repubs have resorted to vote suppression, and vote machine rigging is because they can't get the votes of minorities, immigrants, LGBT, young people, single women, college educated, & other groups.

So it's not that Dems are saints, it's just their agenda appeals to more people. And the repub party has been hijacked by right wing wacko religious fundamental case extremists.

You should stop being a sore loser. The election is over! Your guys lost. We need to come together against cheating, and in support of progressive change that benefits the 99%.