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Forum Post: I don't understand. Why would they say "PROTESTS DON'T MATTER"?

Posted 1 year ago on Dec. 4, 2012, 2:36 p.m. EST by therising (6643)
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/12/04/israeli-settlement-mayor-to-france-and-britain-protests-don-t-matter.html

I just don't understand how an officially sanctioned fairly significant leader in country founded on religious principles could say something like that. Doesn't scripture encourage community? Why would such principles be ignored. When almost the entire world is telling you you're doing the wrong thing, it might be smart to take a look in the mirror.

Could one argue that Palestinians should do the same? Sure. But that's no excuse. Set the example and practice what you preach. What is this third grade?? How can anyone defend this world destabilizing settlement maneuver with a straight face? Nearly the whole world has condemned it! Why do we keep funding this nonsense? The parody headline from the Onion a few weeks ago is every nearly imitating real life: "Israel Calls For Increase In U.S. Taxes To Fund Attacks On Gaza."

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[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (19203) 1 year ago

Thanks for this post, therising.

Here is a report from Amesty International about life in Palestine:

http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/israel-occupied-palestinian-territories/report-2012

And, the UN Declaration of Human Rights:

http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml

I say Occupy Human Rights for all people everywhere!

[-] 3 points by therising (6643) 1 year ago

Right on

[-] 0 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 1 year ago

mohammed amin al-husseini-other wise known as the grand mufti of jerusalem, the founder of arab nationalism and his virulent advocation of anti-semetic thought is a primary driver of the conflict in the middle east and in fact the entire arab demeanor in regards to jews and the west. he was trained well by the nazi and was hitler's muslim henchman in the middle east. if one wanted to know about the conflict in real terms one would research this evil man. He trained his nephew arafat. a little quote "all case, there is no doubt that the mufti's hatred was not limited to zionism but extended to Jews as such.frequent and close contacts with the leaders of the nazi regime can not have left him no doubt about the fate that awaited jews whose emigration was prevented by his efforts. his many comments show that he was not only delighted that jews were prevented from emigrating to palestine, but he was very satisfied with the final Solution of the nazis. "

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

When I hear that non sense I assume that protests do work and stating otherwise is just a weak attempt at reverse psychology to get the protesters to stop.

Feel free to disregard

[-] 3 points by therising (6643) 1 year ago

The kind of inane posturing that that mayor is doing, pretending as though such action is justified when it fact it is clearly a response to most of the world recognizing the Palestinians have some rights (gasp!) --- I mean -- if that new settlement ploy isn't naked aggression, I don't know what is. And, somehow we're still paying for much of this aggression?????? Do American taxpayers realize this??????

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

World opinion is against him.

[-] 3 points by therising (6643) 1 year ago

At what point do some of this mayor's constituents (out of a sense of decency, world preservation and self preservation) stand up and say, to the mayor "Jesus, man. You've gone too far! You're putting our lives in danger over a strip of desert."

How is this different from the Chinese occupation of Tibet?

Are we citizens of the world (the 99%) so intimidated by the words and actions of the 1% that we sit back and allow them to act in our name? Provoking wars and suffering via retaliatory settlements, invading Iraq, Fracking, etc etc etc etc?????? What the hell are we waiting for. WE have the power if we join together to take nonviolent action. If we realize we have more in common than we have separating us, we'll begin making decisions from a position of unified power instead of demands fueled by divided weakness. At that point, the tiny minority that is the 1% won't be able to make stupid decisions on our behalf.

I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. We need to rise up nonviolently against this nonsense. We all need to tell the self appointed emperors in no uncertain terns: "YOU HAVE NO CLOTHES!"

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I agree. I do think many of his constituents support peace but not likely they will invoke "Jesus" LOL.

Not enough support peace. And protests will improve that. We must protest as well. It must be a worldwide action.

For this and so much else.

[-] 4 points by therising (6643) 1 year ago

It needs to happen. It's time. The last 15 months were a warm up. Now it's time for humanity to unify and stand up ....Stand up and take nonviolent direct action. Enough is enough. It's time for humanity to rise.

I really do want those citizens of Israel and America and China etc etc etc to unify enmass and turn to their self appointed leaders and say "Jesus man, enough is enough. We've had it!"

Word is spreading. And nonviolent resistance is the key next step.

[-] -1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I want the same thing. I join protests often. I always encourage others. We must keep agitating. Grow the movement.

Slow, & steady. It IS happening.

[-] 0 points by therising (6643) 1 year ago
[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Excellent.

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 1 year ago

I would love to see it happen.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Same here.

[-] -1 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 1 year ago

how is it different than tibet? well there a dozens of reasons why it is different. one being that the chinese are literally breeding tibetans out of existence. another being this there has never been a nation of palestine nor a palestinian people. a careful examination of facts will tell you this fact. also note that tibetans are majority zen buddhist and very peaceful people, i don't think anyone confuses that with jihadist islam which near as i can tell is the same thing as moderate islam. with more suicide vests and less acceptance of infidels.

[-] -1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

"I just don't understand how an officially sanctioned fairly significant leader in country founded on religious principles could say something like that. Doesn't scripture encourage community? Why would such principles be ignored."

You are confusing good hearted people that live there with the their uber rich leaders, who could care less.

[-] 3 points by therising (6643) 1 year ago

But why would 99% of the people let 1% put them in such danger. This is pretty extreme. I would think the citizens of his town would revolt. What exactly would have to happen? What would he have to say or do to get them so pissed off that they'd nonviolently force him from office?

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Honestly at this point, looking at what is going on in the world, and the way people are kind of just putting up with it, you have to start humoring the "chemtrails" people a bit haha

But seriously, it seems as long as power structures can keep people blaming others instead of uniting, they are fine no matter what they do.

[-] 3 points by therising (6643) 1 year ago

* I think that they whole enchilada right there. Your comment above in some ways explains the very reason the occupy movement exists. **