Forum Post: How much are you willing to give Washington of your income....
Posted 11 years ago on Oct. 17, 2012, 12:43 a.m. EST by TheRazor
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Traditionally, the budget is about 18% of GDP. Would you be OK with Washington taking 30%?
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And your progressive kept us there and bombed a few more countries to be safe, don't be a hypocrite.
The wars are paid for. Welfare isn't.
The wars are the single biggest reason our economy is in the shambles it is in today. The problem is the wars have sucked more money out of our economy than anything else; like taking air out of a balloon.
The wars are NOT paid for. They were put the national credit card.
And welfare costs hardly nothing.
Try again. www.usconstitution.net
Get familiar with it, lackey.
"lackey"? name calling? Are you in 5th grade?
I guess I win.
You "win"?
You're down to third grade without a job. The time you waste here day in and day out tells me you're a loser. Hurray for post counts and wasted time, professional LACKEY.
BTW, where did you ever get the idea that your opinion matters?
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Are you gonna cry now?
LMFAO!
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Article 1, Section 8, you dipschit.
You really are stupid. Have to have everything spelled out for you.
That's why you're occupy. You're useless as tits on a bull for anything else.
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You might have to. It's looking like this is an attempt to flip the argument over to "where do you get the authority?" rather than answer the question directly.
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Yeah, it is a plus one for silliness AND hijacking.
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Yep.
1.4 trillion. http://costofwar.com/
"To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;"
PAID.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/html/art1frag77_user.html
And welfare costs hardly nothing.?????? hahahha what a joke it is exceeding 1 trillion right now
Nope. This year it is estimated at $104B, next year $99B.
And Welfare increases are a result of conservative policy that created the economic crash!
remember?
This is a social contract. What benefit do we the people get with the 30%?
Well, do you know better how you want to spend your money or do you think Washington does?
It really is a very simple qusetion.
No, it isn't a very simple question. In fact, it is a vague question that desires a run of the mill lap dog response. When you are ready to get down to what this really means, let me know.
I have no problem giving a share of my money to the government. What I'm really concerned about is what the government is doing with the money.
For the current corporate controlled two party gov. No
For a gov representing the people, publicly funded campaigns, and strict laws against bribery, including working for a company you used to oversee. Yes
Just curious. Why do you think the state knows better how to spend your money than you? Are you not the captain of your own fate?
Sure. But I want the best ship possible. We need to upgrade our communications, transportation network, education system, we need to invest in research to stay the place everyone wants to go. We've been using what our father's built and it's time for us to modernize it.
I'm willing to commit all of it indefinitely, absolutely.
"willing to give"? I wonder , if left up to the individual citizen, how much would each person be willing to pay in taxes?
10% across the board. Period.
Hell no.
Income tax rate of 90% on income over $1 million.
haha... good luck selling that one.
"We did it before And we can do it again"
VQkag2 your mama wants ya to get off the pc and take the trash out
My mom died 14 years ago at the age off 55.
Please refrain from personal attacks.
Grow up.
You're kidding right? Congress is the 1%; it'll never happen in any significant way.
Too bad. It would be right & fair!
Soak the rich!
All in love and war is fair... the problem is that we are neither at war or in love with Congress; we need to work on that.
Riiiiiiiight!
It's just bullshit, and everything in life is bullshit.
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This is an entirely new approach, one that has little concern for whatever reason. They are obviously all privy to information concerning government finance that the rest of us are not; there is no way to explain Congressional spending on the backs of the people even in light of extremely low interest rates.
Where is the rationale here, that's what I'm asking; if it exists, I want to hear it. The problem is that it does not exist; these are self serving, corrupt politicians.
This Congress will never, ever, impose such rates on themselves.
How about 90% of what you make , yea that is much better idea you give 90% of what you make. If your not ready to do that your a hypocrit.
In times of war EVERYBODY must sacrifice. The 99% has done their part, but the 1% has exploited and hoarded. Time's UP!
That's kind of a vague unprovable thin to say.w
OPEN your eyes!
And see what exactly?
Well let's break it down:
The 99% has done their part sacrificing!
But the 1% has exploited and hoarded instead of sacrificing!
The fraud, corruption and redistribution to the top1% is proven and audacious!
Time's UP!
All this site is, is an Obama re-election site. That wants to continue the status quo so forgive me if I don't drink the koolaid.
It appears to be TOO LATE!
You are correct and it does appear to be TOO LATE so sorry for the Obama admin losing the election but on the bright side, we will finally have a leader again after a four year absence
http://www.rockthevote.com/rtv_voter_registration.html?source=rtv.com-homegraphic
http://www.romneytaxplan.com/
He doesn't deserve to be re-elected for sure, I just don't have much faith that Romney will do much better. The two parties know you have to chose one of them I wish there wee more options so the two main parties would actually have to server.
Improvement requires involvement 100%
True involvement would require more than same old two choices.
OK, then check out the Down Ballot races: Voter 411 Voting Guide: http://www.vote411.org/ballot#.UIDh8mfWrU5
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Bob Hope was taxed over 90%.
He was getting paid so much he didn't give a phlying phukk.
And?
And, that was the time of abundance in America, a time when The Brady Bunch was indicative of the middle class, and not a forgotten dream.
Next question?
Where do you get your info on bob hopes tax rate?
I remember him making jokes about it.
He was offered non-cash incentives to perform, but the IRS made new laws to prevent that from happening. Bob made it a part of his stage show.
I'm not wealthy. The 99% has already sacrificed and therefore contributed in the effort to recover the economy of the nation.
We (the 99%) have been victimized by the 1%. It's timethe1% who have done better and better in the great recession to share in the burden of recovering the economy.
It's only fair. They share by willing to contribute. Anything else is just greedy, selfish, & unpatriotic.
Your advocacy of the1% is betrayal of your class. Have you no patriotic honor.?
Your wealth is not the issue, when they run out of the riches money and still need more where do you think it will come from? For you to think that it is ok for gov to take 90% of what a person earns so a level of bitterness and anger that borders on criminal. You think it's fair, well I thinks it's faire gov take 90% of what you make. Betrayal of my class? Lol I'm not a thief so I will never be on your class; you seem to think everyone who is rich stole it. That is a very uneducated thing to assume and just because you failed at life doesn't mean you can drag everyone else down with you.
I ain't failed, And I don't think all rich stole their money.
I just recognize the the 99% have been victimized by the 1% plutocrats who have bought our govt, rigged the system against us, crashed the world economy, took trillions in bailouts, held down our wages, raised our health premiums, moved our jobs over seas, busted our unions, destroyed our pensions, and gave themselves underserved, obscenely, high salary/bonuses.
They have not contributed in the recovery. It is unfair and unpatriotic. Why should the 99% conribute but not the 1%?
Why would you protect them while they continue to prey on your family?
So you admit not all rich stole the money but you still want to take 90% you should love in the old Soviet Union (before it collapsed). Why do you get to decided what's fair for everyone? It's beyond arrogant for you to pretend you know what anyone has contributed. The only one I protect is me, this may supprise you but i refuse to play the role of victim. I'm doing very well inspire of te gov not because of the gov. It sounds like you have never really known freedom, and I feel sorry for you.
My personal life is not your business. It reflects the impotence of your argument that you continue to try and deflect to that.
The 1% ain't contributed to the solution! They contributed to the problem!! AND the 1% DID benefit.
The 99% are the only ones who have suffered as a result of irresponsible 1% wall st banksters behavior.
This is why it is unfair for the 99% (you too!!) to be the only ones contributing to the recovery.
And this is what makes it traitorous that the 1% continue to resist doing their fair share!
I'm pointing out how your personal life has contributed to your misguided anger, I have not asked you for any personal info nor do i want it. It does however backup my assertions to your irrational behavior. The only role you seem comfortable with is being the victim, poor little VQ's always the victim not everyone thinks that way.
"irrational behavior"? how so?
"victim"? When did I say I'm a victim?
Make some sense. I ain't talkin about me personally.
I stated the 99% have been victimized, yet have contributed to the recovery. Further that the 1% created the crash, benefited, & have resisted contributing to the recovery.
Absolutely rational, fair, & overdue.
I stand with the decent hard working American families, you stand with the wall st banksters who continueto prey on our families.
Not everyone thinks they are a victim but you try to put them there. You don't stand with hard working families you want it keep them right where they are with no chance of bettering their life. Progressives want two classes working class and the elite, the elite will always make sure they have plenty and that the working class stay right where they are. I stand for/with myself I am confident in my ability to provide for myself , you are not capable of taking care of yourself. The big problem with your way is it drags me down with you and that's not going to happen.
No one takes care of me!! And again please stay out of my personal business.
And you ain't a progressive so you don't speak for them.
Progressives say "we're in this together" They support equal/fair/level playing field to provide opportunity for all. No progressive supports people stay dependent on govt.
You said "I stand for/with myself" Is that conservative?
Conservatives say "you're on your own". Is that right.? Fuck everyone else, I got mine?
Obviously I prefer progressive approach. How could you supportthe conservative approach.? Isn't that kinda selfish, greedy, and careless?
We never would've left the caves dude. It's not Human. It's more like survival ofthe fittest jungle living. Some of us are betterthan that.
Not you?
I'm not in your personal bus. Anymore than you are in mine so stop being a hypocrite. Look you are simple enough to think someone else will take care of you fine you will get exactly what you deserve but you are not dragging me down with you. Progressives love to say how they will take care of everyone and supporters are shocked when they realize that in a time of crisis they are sold down the river. I will never allow my wants/needs to allocated out to me by gov. You advocate slavery disguised as compassion. I believe in a hand-up not hand-outs your hand-outs make people slaves, that beg for scraps from their masters table.
Your opinions about progressives are absolutely incorrect.
They do not pander for votes with table scraps,
They do want people to responsibility for themselves. of course!
They do not need victims, & there is no need for a victim class.
And they do not keep people down
All untrue. just your slanted opinions not based in facts which is why you haven't offered any facts. Just republican talking points.
And what lie are you accusing me of? Or is that scurrilous accusation also not based on facts?
All you put up are slanted opinions, you are closed minded to anything other than progressive approved opinions.
What lie are you accusing me of? Or is that scurrilous accusation also not based on facts?
You are wrong about what progressives want!
They do not want hand outs, they want equal opportunity.
"you are simple enough to think someone else will take care of you..." Whaaaaat? Where did you get that from? Are your opinions so impotent you have to resort to lying about what I personally believe?
Please refrain from telling me my personal beliefs. LOL. You speak for yourself and your conservative ideology, I'll speak for me and progressive ideology.
Whatta joke. LMFAO
Progressives pander for votes with table scraps and to keep those enslaved they make it impossible to improve thier situation. Progressives don't want people who take responsibility for their own lives they need victims. You lie all the time and why is that ok? For your system to work there has to be a constant victim class. Which is why progressives keep people down.
They (the republicans) have not contributed in the recovery? Only because the obummer admin is blocking them from doing so. Obama hates America and wants to see it collapse
Crickets.
What are the Republican policy plans for improving the economy. Name them. Name one. Give us a little detail. What Republican 'recovery' or job creation plan(s) do you think will be helpful for the economy.
And what has Pres. Obama blocked them from doing exactly?
chirp chirp.
Oh this I must hear. What are the Republican policy plans for improving the economy. Name them. Name one. Give us a little detail. What Republican 'recovery' or job creation plan(s) do you think will be helpful for the economy.
And what has Pres. Obama blocked them from doing exactly?
Bush already collapsed it.
Did you sleep through all 8 years of it, or were not of age yet?
The repubs in congress conspired from day one to obstruct any effort by Pres Obama because they wanted to make him a one term Pres.
That is anti American, treasonous.
Repubs should rehire the million+ public workers they have fired during this unemployment crises,
Repubs should pass the jobsbill/infrastructure bill that would create at least 2 million jobs,
Repubs should pass the veterans jobs bill that would create a million jobs.
Repubs should allow the expansion of green tech investment and that would create 2 million jobs.
Unemployment will drop to below 6 %.
Traitorous republicans should be prosecuted.
Obama has created a "welfare Nation" with spending topping the 1 trillion mark. Welfare has risen 30% under obama
Welfare is no where near 1 trillion. That's ridiculous.
Any increase in food stamps & other pgms for the poor are a result of the repub created economic crash. Any improvement through recovery has been slowed by republican obstruction in congress.
Get it?
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VQkag2 is only on the forum until around 4;00 or whatever time the library closes
no ive seen him on late at night. i think he realized people are tired of him pushing down certain ideals. He has laid off the posting i know he doesn't use his multiple accounts anymore.
Lol pathic.
I ask only that everyone pay their 'FAIR SHARE". What's that? Ask our IslamoFascist-in Chief