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Forum Post: Hillary Clinton: US Losing Information War to Alternative Media

Posted 7 years ago on Nov. 28, 2012, 12:50 p.m. EST by john23 (-272)
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[-] 4 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 7 years ago

Holy shit. I love how they dont even try to hide it anymore. Straight up informational war.

Please top post this daily.

[-] 1 points by freakyfriday (179) 7 years ago

Happy to oblige hc.

[-] 0 points by richardkentgates (3269) 7 years ago

Yeah, this is a worthy post for sure.

[-] 2 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 7 years ago

Hillary Clinton admits that the CFR runs the U.S. Department of State


Here's the truth:


Congress even attempted to pass a bill legalizing lying to the people:


Good post !!

[-] 2 points by Shule (2638) 7 years ago

Gee, and some few years back, we were bitching about Pravda?

[-] 0 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 7 years ago

They say Pravda reporters found a way to hint at the truth and/or that viewers/readers could read between the lines to figure out the truth.

Goebbels would be jealous. His propaganda was much heavier handed. Today's isn't even noticed by most people.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 7 years ago

Good Post

[-] 2 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 7 years ago

I guess the government/the Pentagon waging information warfare against the American people (people of the world really) isn't a conspiracy theory any more. Thanks Hillary for the confirm.

The three concepts needed to understand U.S. criminal governance: information warfare, false flag, control fraud.

[-] 1 points by rayolite (461) 7 years ago

To find the knights, the barons and the king, we could dig deeper.

1867m following the civil war, is where britain took over in lieu of debt repayment. An entire arms manufacturing industry was provided to North America, with VERY high interest. The massive debt caused an instant effort of re possession.

Few people realize that the Magna Carta was a peace treaty. None understand the "Lost war. Few realize the US constitution is an extension.

So what are we really giving up on with unreasonable fears and complacency?

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 7 years ago

Good Post

[-] 0 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 7 years ago


[-] 2 points by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL 7 years ago

Seems like the state-controlled MSM is finally taking a hit. That is great news for everyone, but the power-elite of this country will not take kindly to being behind in this "infowar" and I predict they will substantially take whatever measures they can to get back on top with their brainwashing efforts. Can't have the masses waking up to the reality of their crimes...no, that must be suppressed at all costs.

Looks like Chomsky was right all along. We live in interesting times indeed.

[-] 2 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 7 years ago

We have to protect the internet, the greatest truth machine the world has ever seen.

[+] -4 points by janus2 (-387) 7 years ago

which is why the left wing wants to control the intenet and conservative talk radio

[-] 2 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 7 years ago

No, stupido. Let a hundred flowers bloom. Break up the media cartels. Don't allow ownership across platforms. Don't allow corpoRAT ownership of news outlets. Don't allow any one corpoRAT to own multiple radio stations, newspapers, etc.

Then automatically multiple voices will spring up and the market will work to pick "winning" viewpoints and commentators.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 7 years ago

Agreed. And encourage/support citizen journalists/independent internet news!

[-] 0 points by town (-374) 7 years ago

Air America did so well. Zimmerman is suing ABC news for selectively editing the 911 call . It was the people on the internet that proved that Dan Rathers story about bush was fabricated. The mainstrean media hates the internet because thats where more and more people are getting the real news, not the news the stations select for you to know. Why is it an information war? The truth has no agenda.

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 7 years ago

But Dan Rathers' story about Bush going AWOL actually was the truth. It seems it was a set up, with fabricated, fake documents to discredit the truth -- a clever Machaevellian game.


[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 7 years ago

You say that like Rush, Hannity, Beck et al, have anything accurate and worthwhile to say.

Like FLAKESnews, is LOL "fair and balanced".

They don't, and it's not.

[-] -1 points by Coyote88 (-24) 7 years ago

And here the enemy shows itself. Mark it well.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 7 years ago

Excuse me?

Which of the above are your puppets and or pull your strings?

[-] -1 points by RedDragon (-161) 7 years ago

And so I see... they are nationalists.

[-] -1 points by janus2 (-387) 7 years ago

how do feel about walter williams and thomas sowell?

[-] -3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 7 years ago

I don't feel anything at all.

Why would I?

I don't care for the bullshit conse(R)vative economics theories brings to the table, and that includes anything endorsed by libe(R)tarians so far too..

It's failed far too many times.

I prefer MMT, for it's adaptability.



[-] 0 points by john23 (-272) 7 years ago

Shooz why do you always gotta start this partisan bickering BS....that's not what this post is about. Everyone knows all you see when you open your eyes everyday is blue - everywhere....but not all of us are like that....we can look at stuff objectively.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 7 years ago

I didn't, why do you ask me?

You should have asked janus, who's partisan question I answered.

Indeed you butting into the middle of a conversation without reading the pertinent lead ins.

PS: FLAKESnews is very much NOT alternative media.

[-] -1 points by john23 (-272) 7 years ago

"FLAKESnews is very much NOT alternative media"


[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 7 years ago

You do realize that this reality includes FLAKES19?

Very much so.

Mr Murdock has gained some notoriety for spying on people.

Hopefully you've been keeping track.

[-] 1 points by john23 (-272) 7 years ago

"You do realize that this reality includes FLAKES19"


[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 7 years ago

Of course you would.....................:)

But it IS still FLAKESnews.

It's still under Murdock's complete control.

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 7 years ago

I've worked in a tv station before so this is something I was curious about ... so i just looked it up. Fox 19 is a Raycom Media station. Does Murdoch own Raycom Media? Maybe he does. I don't know. I went to the Raycom site and it says it's "employee owned."


The network does not own all the tv stations. Many local stations are owned by several different companies or corporations and do news according to those companies/corporations. Raycom for example makes up 12% of Americans broadcasts according to their website.

Let me know if Murdoch owns Raycom Media. I'm interested to find out if that is true.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 7 years ago

Murdock doesn't allow use of the brand for free, if you didn't see the contract, you don't know what's in it..

Indeed, Raycom is among those who are lobbying against the transparency that would allow us to know.


[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 7 years ago

Considering the local Fox station here in my city did the friendliest welcome to the Occupy Movement, they were the station that came out to the most of our protests and did interviews and put our message on tv for weeks, I'd have to say you don't quite know what you're talking about when it comes to Murdoch's role in local media content.

For example here is an awesome story about me and the local Occupy movement that our local Fox 42 covered. As you read you will see no Murdoch bias in it.

"The separation of corporations and government is one of the main platforms that the movement stands on." - the reporter wrote

Not my best interview, as I was incredibly nervous, but I thought i got out a good and simple message. - http://www.kptm.com/story/15707349/occupy-omaha-blogger-finds-voice

I really wish that they would have included what I said about how corporations, banks, and businesses have created an employers market.

I think the 2 reporters I talked with liked the Occupy movement because I was able to relate it to their work place. Which they left out of the article because it reflects their station in a negative. Their station recently had major cuts, all so the station owner could pocket more cash. Camera ops were let go and reporters were made to do 2 jobs for the price of 1. And their studio was hubbed out to Iowa. The reporters were actually really nice.

The local news director plays the largest role in local news coverage. And yes they can get stuff pushed on them from station owners. I'm just saying that's usually not the case. And in regards to the local Fox 42 station here in my city, it is in no way run by Murdoch. A good friend of mine worked their for about 10 years and a guy I currently work with was there for 2 years.

Also I'm right there with you on transparency and in no way am I defending the company. I was just pointing out that Murdoch does not own all the local news stations. For example Disney owns ABC but Hearst owns a lot of local ABC broadcast stations.

TTBG owns this local Fox station. Wouldn't surprise me if TTBG is owned by someone else. Let me know if you find a trail.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 7 years ago

Of course trevor, "yours" is the only truly "fair and balanced" FLAKES station in the whole of the Murdock empire of hate and misinformation.

[-] -1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 7 years ago

The post is clearly anti dem/Hillary. Why shouldn't the discussion touch on the party of Hillary & the opposing one.

Perhaps you just do not want any Pro Blue comments?

[-] 0 points by john23 (-272) 7 years ago

Lol clearly - in your warped little world that might be true VQ. You have the same affliction....blue - everywhere you look.

This is not anti-dem. If it was a republican who had said the same shit hilary did - the same video would have been posted.

[-] -1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 7 years ago

But it wasn't Johnnie, It wasn't.

So there it is. Anti Dem partisanship. Deal with it.

We MUST allow all opinions. I'm sure when you post on the repubs sites you don't get much "blue view". Be satisfied with onesided discourse their and accept a robust debate here.

You'll be happier.

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 7 years ago

Preconceived notions are a wonderful defense against the truth, without them, knowledge would spread like wildfire and the world would change faster than those who wish to control it can keep up with.

Is it me or is there a shill in the air in here?

[-] -1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 7 years ago

We've come a long way in the last 10-15 years. There was a time when people who got their news from alternative media were thought of as flakes. Now a new "war" has been declared and we're informed that we're losing it. I'm not at war so I'm not losing it. Hillary is trying to sound hip here by mentioning RT, etc... but it's the same old mantra from her- war, war, war....

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 7 years ago

And war is she pushing.?

[-] -1 points by john23 (-272) 7 years ago

Good comment - but of course the partisan hacks on here have to down vote it because of the fact that it might be calling out someone in their own party....even if the criticism is legit.