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Forum Post: Greg Abbott, Texas Attorney General, Threatens To Arrest U.N. Elections Observers [UPDATED]

Posted 1 year ago on Oct. 25, 2012, 11:26 a.m. EST by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR
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Greg Abbott, Texas Attorney General, Threatens To Arrest U.N. Elections Observers [UPDATED]

{Why we have to kick these crazy Cons out of our governments, local to fed}

The Huffington Post | By Nick Wing Posted: 10/24/2012 2:06 pm Updated: 10/24/2012 4:16 pm

Greg Abbott, the Republican Attorney General of Texas [RW Wacko], issued a stern warning this week to members of a United Nations-affiliated delegation expected to be on hand to monitor voting at polling places around the country on Election Day.

In a letter to the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, a body created by U.N. charter and responsible for helping to ensure the integrity of elections, among other tasks, Abbott warned the diplomatic poll-watchers that their involvement in U.S. elections could have strong legal repercussions.

"It may be a criminal offense for OSCE's representatives to maintain a presence within 100 feet of a polling place's entrance," he writes. "Failure to comply with these requirements could subject the OSCE's representatives to criminal prosecution for violating state law." Such a restriction makes election monitoring highly difficult.

The OSCE announced earlier this month that it would send 44 observers to polling places around the country on Election Day in order to monitor possible disputes that could arise in the voting process. The move came in response to a petition from liberal-leaning voting rights groups, including the NAACP and ACLU, that suggested the OSCE's presence could help combat what they fear will be a concerted effort to suppress votes from supporters of President Barack Obama.

Concerns among Democrats have mounted in the wake of reports that right-leaning groups, such as the Tea Party-aligned True The Vote, had plans to dispatch armies of poll-watchers seeking to root out invalid votes. Opponents warn that the volunteer "poll challengers" will engage in intimidation of legitimate minority voters who tend to vote Democratic.

In his letter, Abbott takes issue with the OSCE's supposed opposition to voter ID laws, which won't be in place in Texas after being rejected by a federal court, and adds that the group's efforts at polling places are neither needed nor acceptable.

"If OSCE members want to learn more about our election processes so they can improve their own democratic systems, we welcome the opportunity to discuss the measures Texas has implemented to protect the integrity of elections," he writes. "However, groups and individuals from outside the United States are not allowed to influence or interfere with the election process in Texas. This State has robust election laws that were carefully crafted to protect the integrity of our election system. All persons -- including persons connected with OSCE -- are required to comply with these laws."

Abbott's opposition is consistent with a growing trend of conservative distrust toward the United Nations and its affiliates. On Tuesday, Florida GOP Senate candidate Connie Mack said that the U.N. should be defunded and "kicked off of American soil." In a statement, Mack appeared to suggest that the broader U.N., and therefore presumably the OSCE as well, was driven by nefarious motives.

“The very idea that the United Nations -- the world body dedicated to diminishing America’s role in the world -- would be allowed, if not encouraged, to install foreigners sympathetic to the likes of Castro, Chavez, Ahmadinejad and Putin to oversee our elections is nothing short of disgusting," he said.

UPDATE: 3:10 p.m. EST -- Ambassador Janez Lenarčič, director of the OSCE Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR), responded in a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, saying that Abbott's threat put the state of Texas at odds with an agreement between the body and state authorities.

“The threat of criminal sanctions against OSCE/ODIHR observers is unacceptable,” Lenarčič said. “The United States, like all countries in the OSCE, has an obligation to invite ODIHR observers to observe its elections.”

Lenarčič took issue with insinuations that officials in the group would meddle with elections, reiterating that they were bound by national laws and regulations, as well as their own strict code of conduct.

“Our observers are required to remain strictly impartial and not to intervene in the voting process in any way,” Lenarčič said. “They are in the United States to observe these elections, not to interfere in them.”

A release relaying Lenarčič's comments pointed out that the OSCE has observed five previous U.S. elections since 2002, all without incident.

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[-] 3 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

ALL of the observers should go to OHIO

[-] 2 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Just imagine if they went to Texass, secured legitimate election processing, and the final count turned blue!

"Oh my, what could have happened?"

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Guess he don't want any witnesses!

[-] 4 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

"Them Commies is come'n!! Them Commies is come'n!!"

Shit I hope they don't wear hoodies, it's got to be "Stand Your Ground" down there!!

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I think it is. And legal carry (hidden carry).

Scary. I'd rather see the UN observers in swing states.

But whatever. Like to see the repubs shoot themselves in the foot. (so to speak)

[-] 3 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

UN Troops engage Republican Insurgents at renegade Texan election polls. UN tanks break through pick-up truck blockades, Republican Insurgents drop guns and flee!

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

LOL. Sounds like a movie.

"Remember the Alamo II"

[-] 4 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

F Troop!

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

"We're the Heckarwe"

[-] 3 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

I'm getting my degree at "What'sAMatter-U".

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Sounds vaguely Marxist. (Groucho, not Karl)

[-] 2 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Hey! Rocky and Bullwinkle!

And now for something serious you might be interested in:

http://wellstonetheykilledhim.com/

Another gem frome listening to Prog-Talk radio.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Wellstone was a great progressive. I always thought his 'death' was fishy.

Thx.

[-] 2 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

JFK jr., John Lennon...

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Right wing wacko neo con bastards!

[-] 2 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

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Never give up, EVER!

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I ain't giving up! just venting.

[-] 2 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

RW Extremists ~ 1% owned RepubliCon Cult!!!

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

This country better replace many conservatives, Or I'm givin up!

[-] 0 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

"Gone With The Wind"

[-] -1 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 1 year ago

They aren't even WITH the UN...you'll fall for ANYTHING ...or is it STOOP to anything?

"CORRECTION: This article originally reported that the OSCE was created by the United Nations. While the OSCE and UN partner on some operations, they are independent organizations."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/24/greg-abbott-texas-un-elections_n_2010081.html?utm_hp_ref=elections-2012

[-] 2 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Hey, your broom is on fire!!

[-] -1 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 1 year ago

Careful, I'll turn you into a bigger toad than you are.

[-] 2 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

uh, oh

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

This all has the makings of a spectacle that might wake up millions of people in other countries to the insanity that rules America and to this country's lack of moral authority to instruct other countries on how to comport themselves.

[-] 0 points by bERNARDmARX (37) from New York, NY 1 year ago

And OWS anonymous and unaccountable fake misleaders will advocate neutrality in this battle, then next year they'll deceptively try to wear MLK's mantle If he were alive today he'd spit on them..

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I think the repubs will cave. They are cowards in the end. Chicken hawks to the last!

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

A lot of peckerheads with guns out there...

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Yeah & a lot with those guns have them because they are living in fear. (or they have small peckers! LoL)

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

Man you got downvoted before I could even see this comment. Somethin's goin' on around here...

[-] -1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I have a couple of closet right wing wackos always downvoting me.

I pay them no mind. But thx if you upvoted me. Anything to annoy the right wing!

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

For some reason they upvote me. Maybe to taint me with their approval...Somethin's goin' on around here...

[-] -1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I just upvoted you myself But it did look like they upvoted you already.

They probably want to throw off suspicion.

[-] 0 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

Odd that OWS in and of itself has nothing to say about the fact that this country needs international election monitors to try and secure a legitimate election and vote count. I guess we aren't Iran or Russia...

[-] 0 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 1 year ago

The fact that international election monitors have been invited to observe does not necessarily mean that they are in FACT needed, OR that they can in FACT secure a legitimate election and vote count.

The PEOPLE of this country have the right to determine how their personal votes are observed and WHO does the watching. The Federal Government has ZERO authority to force the states to do anything they don't want to do regarding elections.

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

But it's different on Russia, Iran, Venezuela... they need Jimmy Carter and Co. to keep their shit straight....

I hope actually that you peckerheads turn out with your guns etc. and it gets on international TV. You can't grasp what's happening but lots of people in other countries will.

[-] -1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I don't like OWS stance on elections & their silence regarding the republican voter suppression.

A major weakness/flaw in the movement.

[-] 0 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

Can you try to address the hypocrisy of OWS concerning itself with elections in Iran and Russia but not in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida? Is this some oversight or inadvertent slip up?

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I think it is their claim to not want to be part of the brokem American political system.

No candidate campaigning, or party advocacy. i've heard some claim they want to attract people from across the political spectrum so advocating for any party would turn some off.

Also heard that they don't want to vote & be part of a system that is broken anf bought & paid for by the corp 1% plutocrats. To be onvolved would give the broken system legitimacy.

So that's what I have learned.

[-] 2 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

MLK did not endorse any presidential candidate but the essential human and civil right to cast or not cast a vote as one wishes to do was being denied to a majority of Black people and to this MLK objected mightily. I refuse to believe that OWS is blind to this distinction nor are you. You know that hundreds of thousands of Black people are going to be unlawfully barred from casting their votes next week and so does OWS. This has nothing to do with endorsing anyone, it's a white blind arrogance towards human rights for black people. There is no other explanation save guidance from the State Department as to what elections it is kosher and "anarchistic" to get concerned about.

[-] -2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

You may be right. I cannot say. Because the leaders of this leaderless movement are unknown to me.

In any event by ignoring this problem OWS are guilty of a gross injustice. And engaged in a willful disregard of a heinous crime.

My disappointment is profound.

[-] 0 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

I think it could turn out to have been a fatal error. No doubt many African American people who once saw OWS as something hopeful will remember and not forget what amounts to a hypocritical betrayal by the cowards who anonymously control OWS. Oppressed people do tend to be forgiving but I doubt there will be an apology to forgive.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I agree. And I think the disgust goes beyond African Americans. Many others are alienated by the lack of interest in this critical rights issue as well as the general lack of interest in the election.

[-] -2 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

It's a shame and a pity but white arrogance may very well have been the final nail in OWS' coffin.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34879) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

U sir(?) R an idiot - check your air-supply frogman - it seems your air mixture might be tainted or is it your air-mix(?) that is the problem?


[-] 0 points by frogmanofborneo (818) from New York, NY 5 minutes ago

It's a shame and a pity but white arrogance may very well have been the final nail in OWS' coffin. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (5783) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

Agreed. This rant is wearing thin. I believe I see some hypocrisy showing. Not from you, from them.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34879) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Hey No Money - long time no chat.

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (5783) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (19801) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 hour ago

It can also be a good thing to guard against abuse from family. Sometimes it can be better to say - fix this yourself - don't look to me to fix it for you - grow-up and stand on your own two feet

Doesn't really apply in my circumstances, and I think mine are actually a symptom of a problem that's society-wide. In the case of family members, it wasn't favors I was doing but actually trying to earn income. In the great-nephew's case, selling him real property. In my sister's case, it was tuck-pointing her house. It was a promise to pay for my labor, then once the labor was done, no pay. But bigger than that, are the non-family members, people actually in business in some cases. On one, I drove a box truck and helped move a house, was promised $120, got $20. On another, I helped an independent contractor lay some concrete sidewalks at a job site. Paid me the first couple times, them when the job was done, skipped on $100 and stole my extension cord. There's others. When someone is trying to make ends meet using his time and labor and gets consistently screwed out of his pay (and property sometimes) by strangers, small businesses, and even family members for god's sake, I'm seeing a breakdown in society itself. People are losing courtesy and respect for each other. Losing the ability (or care) to distinguish right from wrong. That's what frustrates the most. Not my dollar loss, but what it might say about what society is becoming. Of course, I blame the media for much of it. What's portrayed as role models. What's portrayed as humor. This forum talks a lot about what's the right thing to do politically, talks about ideas to fix the economy, but I wonder, what are we going to do to fix ourselves?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34879) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

There have always been bad people - and you can not choose your family or how your family acts.

Yes we are living in an incredibly sick society in an incredibly sick world.

All you or I or anyone else can do is - the best we can as individuals - and - support each other in trying to fix what we can around us.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (5783) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (19801) from Coon Rapids, MN 3 minutes ago

All you or I or anyone else can do is - the best we can as individuals - and - support each other in trying to fix what we can around us.

Very true. Wise words, but it's gonna be one hell of an uphill battle, eh? And it's going to take a lot of us. But it's also going to take much more than that. There's that hugely powerful, rich, well-connected, politically agenda driven media to contend with. The stranglehold they have on people, which is sadly where most get there perceptions of reality, will be almost impossible to break.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34879) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Well unfortunately we will have to continue working around the MSM until we make some real progress - and - Move to Amend - would be a great start.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (5783) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

Good points in your comment below. It makes me rethink my fantasy of blasting him in the face with a baseball bat when I catch up to him (I would never actually do that, by the way, but the mental picture helps me vent). It is frustrating tho. He's actually the third (!) family member in the last couple years that's done this. But I shall try to take the "high road."

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34879) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

It can also be a good thing to guard against abuse from family. Sometimes it can be better to say - fix this yourself - don't look to me to fix it for you - grow-up and stand on your own two feet. I know that sounds really harsh - but - sometimes it is hard to love properly ( making someone grow ). You best know the circumstances - so you can best judge the proper response. Caring can make a victim of the care giver.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (5783) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (19792) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 minute ago

UN-settled - weather wise. Track down that errant young great-nephew yet?

Nope. I'm not a violent man, DK, but sometimes . . .

Especially since this is probably the sixth or seventh time in the last three or four years that people have refused to pay me what they owe me. If I had regular income, it wouldn't be so bad, but this is how I'm trying to make ends meet. The country's going to hell in ways both big and small. People are takers nowadays, it seems, and have no qualms about taking advantage of people, or downright screwing them. It's becoming a sad world indeed.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (34879) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

No violence intended in the suggestion of tracking down the errant young man.

It ( corruption ) can flow off of the top of society to the rest of society - when people see those in power doing wrong and being rewarded for it some of the people will say - WTF - count me in damn it.

All the more reason for people of good heart/spirit to stand up and say - NO f'n way!

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (5783) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

Been gone about a month, catching up on odds and ends. Rebuilding my 135 year old back porch for one. I don't think it was going to make it thru the winter. How's things "up north?"

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34879) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

UN-settled - weather wise. Track down that errant young great-nephew yet?

[-] -2 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

Sticks and stones may hurt my bones but your name calling will never hurt me. You cannot address the issue.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (34879) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

It appears that U can not address issues - um - that is - without your brand of racism.

[-] -1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 1 year ago

you ignorant arrogant self satisfied fool. white racism is the core of US politics. you run from it perhaps because there is something you can't look at without feeling a bit bad about yourself, could be...

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (34879) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

C? now that is exactly why I asked if you were perhaps some sort of Black Supremacist ( a supremacist of any stripe is a fanatic ).

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

We'll see.

[-] -1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

I believe OWS has taken the right stance in not getting involved in the vote count in this particular election. I will be parting ways with OWS if they don't suggest postponing the election for a couple weeks due to hurricane sandy. OWS is showing their true colors right now.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Elections don't get postponed!. LOL

We've held elections during civil wars why not now?

So you think OWS should stay uninvolved with the vote but want OWS to suggest postponing the election.

Not really consistent. If their uninvolved then they have no say.

[-] 2 points by lancealotlink (147) 1 year ago

Im from Texas and I am outraged by this kind of behavior . Is Gregg Abbot trying to hide something that we dont know about . Is there voter fraud going on that we dont know about. I am so sick of the repuke party down here.

[-] 3 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

"Voter fraud" is the hoax they use to suppress the vote. Suppressing the vote is Election Fraud, that's what RepubliCons do to win/steal elections.

[-] 0 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 1 year ago

I can't believe the word "diebold" is not in this thread.

[-] 2 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Oh, because of the Voting machines RepubliCons used to steal the election for W in 2004? Yeah, that would really suck if I mentioned that crime again.

[-] 1 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 1 year ago

There is no proof that crime is not committed every time we vote.

[-] 0 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Thanx for that

[-] 1 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 1 year ago

ART5 & preparatory amendment deals with that most widespread crime against the people.

1)end the abridging of free speech. 2)campaign finance reform. 3)secure the vote.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

RW Hate radio needs to be censored, like porn, worse.

[-] 1 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 1 year ago

If actual truth were available, that would be better than censoring the hate mongers.

With truth, the hate mongers are forever shamed each time they try to spew hate.

[-] 0 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 1 year ago

Oh, and your Huffington Post article author had to issue a CORRECTION-because they're just that uninformed:

"CORRECTION: This article originally reported that the OSCE was created by the United Nations. While the OSCE and UN partner on some operations, they are independent organizations."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/24/greg-abbott-texas-un-elections_n_2010081.html?utm_hp_ref=elections-2012

[-] 1 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Ground breaking!

Did you know that the UN is made up of "independent" countries too!

[-] 0 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 1 year ago

Really? Is that why they call it the United Nations instead of the United Organizations?

[-] 1 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Or the Chamber of Commerce! Your Republicon employer.

[-] 0 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 1 year ago

Sorry. I'm self employed and not even a member of the COC.

[-] 0 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

The pride is seen

[-] 0 points by nameisthase (-12) 1 year ago

UN oversight, excellent! Well certainly this will make for better foreign relations in the future.

[-] 2 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Especially if it keeps Banksters from tanking and robbing the world economy again!!

[-] -1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

This is hysterical, because cons should be very happy with how things have gone the last 4 years.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

They don't want it to change.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

Yeah, it is like another Pea Brain speaks. Oh, it is just Abbott playing to his Texas Constituents. We don't really expect honesty or professionalism from Politicians any more... It is all Rhetoric.

Hey, a Romney supporter was all excited about getting a DVD in the mail about Obama... and he was saying how Obama is preventing Drilling in the US. I told him I didn't really remember it that way. As we know they have drilled so much for natural gas that the price collasped. No one is making money this year on natural gas ...including the Chinese Investors that got on board.

My take is just that drilling has continued, even in the gulf, but that there is a lot of money out there wanting to drill even more and more. Maybe you have some info on drilling to add....?

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Im not too familiar with our drilling, except that the permits and leases seem to be about what they were the last 12 years.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

Yeah, my feeling is that drilling has expanded somewhat under Obama even in the gulf. But some people will never be satisfied. And in Politics the squeky wheel gets the oil (pardon the pun). Crying that they can't drill probably is just a part of a program of trying to loosen regulations and loose safety rules. Cry, cry, cry.

If I was president and I was being attacked about regulations and requests for premission to drill ...I might be tempted to sign off on some of it to see if I could get them off my back. I think Obama did that about 3-6 months after BP spill. Now of course, he has been under attack for 4 years. I wouldn't even give them a meeting after all the political attacks. Besides there is no problem.

1) Oil Supplies have been high for like a year or more.
2) Gas Supplies have been even higher driving down prices.

[-] -1 points by Cvacca (-24) 1 year ago

Why would UN law supercede state law?

[-] 2 points by WSmith (4187) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Zombies change everything!

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

It wouldn't. Why would you say such a thing? Do you understand what an observer would do?

[-] 0 points by Cvacca (-24) 1 year ago

TX state law does not allow them in the polling place, so I am not quite sure why this is an issue.

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Texas state law doesn't allow election observers? I disagree!

Are they gonna allow the right wing wacko tea party True the Vote observers?

[-] 0 points by Cvacca (-24) 1 year ago

I can't quote Texas law, but the AG said that they are not allowed within 100 feet of the polling place. As long as they observe the law they are fine.

I would appreciate you not calling me names. It is very unbecoming.

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

So you believe this AG dictator? If he said the earth is less than 10,000 years old, would you believe him?

[-] 1 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 1 year ago

The laws on the State of Texas are the LAWS in the state of Texas. And the State of Texas has EVERY right to enforce it's laws on both residents AND visitors. Observers are NOT allowed-not Tea Party, not OSCE, not UN, not ANYONE.

And if you think that the majority of Americans are buying into the CRAP being spewed by this Acorn/Project Vote affiliated group in any way, you are delusional.

"Abbott also took the opportunity to provide some constitutional education for Clinton and Washington, D.C., which seemingly view Texas and other sovereign U.S. states as mere provinces subject to the whims and dictates of the federal government. In the Lone Star State, at least, officials apparently know that the United States was founded under a system in which the central government has limited and specifically enumerated powers."

“The United States Constitution authorizes the States to regulate the conduct of state and federal elections within their borders,” Abbott’s letter continues. “Unlike the unelected bureaucrats at the OSCE, our State’s leaders and decision-makers were duly elected by Texas voters. Elected members of the Texas Legislature enacted the Texas Election Code to ensure our State’s elections are free, fair, open, and reliable.”

"Finally, the attorney general emphasized again, Texas’ election laws do not authorize OSCE representatives to enter polling places. If they do, there will be consequences. Nothing in any OSCE governing documents has any impact — legal or otherwise — on how elections are conducted in Texas, Abbott warned."

“If the OSCE does not wish to follow the laws that govern everyone else present in the State of Texas, including the voters who elect our State’s leaders, then perhaps it should dispatch its representatives to another state,” Abbot concluded. “In closing, I have a simple request: Please work with the OSCE to ensure they agree to comply with Texas law. If they refuse to do so, OSCE’s representatives may be subject to legal consequences associated with any violations of state law.”

[-] -1 points by Cvacca (-24) 1 year ago

You are calling the Attorney General a dictator?

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

the texas AG is part of the republiclan voter suppression machine.
If he wanted openness & transparency and fairness, he would welcome observers - to prove his team is honest

[-] -1 points by Cvacca (-24) 1 year ago

And you believe in UFOs as well. If the Texas AG is biased then I suppose Holder is as well and we both shouldn't listen to them.

I don't see why we would allow anybody to break Texas State law.

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

Texas state law forbade African-Americans from going to integrated schools - in my lifetime

[-] -1 points by Cvacca (-24) 1 year ago

The US Government is forcing Catholic institutions to provide funding for abortions - in my lifetime, in fact right now.

What's your point.

[-] 0 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

In case you did not read the constitution -
it provides NO RIGHTS for churches
it is a constitution to protect PERSONAL rights

If my church believes lightning is God's vengeance and refuses to follow the local laws to install a lightning rod to protect people inside, does the church have the constitutional right to break the law?

[-] 0 points by Cvacca (-24) 1 year ago

Exactly, you don't have the right to break Texas state law, no matter if you disagree with it.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

No state has the right to override the US constitution.
Alabama, for example, cannot pass a law to establish a state religion

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[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I didn't. As far as I know.

Are you with the tea party group 'True the Vote'?

[-] 1 points by Futurevision1 (-75) 1 year ago

I don't understand why so many posters here want our upcoming election to be subservient to the United Nations. Why?

[-] 0 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

This is not a LAW issue - it is observing the cheating