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Forum Post: Given enough data points all things becomes a numbers game, just like Asimov said.

Posted 12 years ago on June 30, 2012, 9:13 a.m. EST by factsrfun (8342) from Phoenix, AZ
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[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

Chaotic systems exhibit a property called sensitivity to initial conditions. That means that no matter how exactly you tried to duplicate the initial angles and velocities for each experimental run, the motion would soon be very different from experiment to experiment.

Chaotic 1,3 pendulum

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8342) from Phoenix, AZ 12 years ago

Fiction can create inspiration, “we have the Ion Drive ready Captain.”

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=star-trek-movie-science

[-] 1 points by Carroll (40) 12 years ago

Who said, "Figures don't lie. But liars will figure."?

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8342) from Phoenix, AZ 12 years ago

Most likely somebody hoping somebody don't look at the numbers.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

I don't know.

Was it the one of those guys that say a woman can't get pregnant from a "real rape"?

So therefore, if they are pregnant, it couldn't have been a "real rape"?

[-] 1 points by ElectoralReform (73) 12 years ago

I enjoyed Foundation (yet to read the sequels) and the concept of accurately predicting the future based on the probability of large groups of people behaving in predictable ways... well it was interesting and fun to read. I can see how Paul Krugman took it as a base to start from.

I'm going to look at those links, and report back, because I do enjoy what Paul has to say (spend more during a recession, trickle up !!)

[-] 3 points by richardkentgates (3269) 12 years ago

Spending more does not automatically translate into a trickle up economy. Especially when you're talking about temp issues like handling a recession. And not all spending is effective. You cannot just support broad spending as stimulus. Right now, the FED continues to give Wall Street billions (257B in July) and this is considered stimulus, and it's government spending. This has had many effects but none of them equate to trickle up economics nor is it actually aiding the recovery. Writing down the principle in upside down mortgages, infrastructure projects, these are useful. Very useful.

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

Agreed. The FED "stimulus" is just gifts to banksters. Poor target since they aren't trying to create jobs! They are trying to make money, on money,.

Stimulus must go to the middle/working class. Cut working class taxes/debt. They will create demand and jobs will be created. Penalize outsourcing

[-] 2 points by richardkentgates (3269) 12 years ago

^Point

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

Upvote U 2.

[-] 1 points by ElectoralReform (73) 12 years ago

Right, but he doesn't advocate just throwing money at the problem, but the things you said. I like the Green Party approach: Tax nationally, spend locally. Give money to the cities to spend on jobs, turn the unemployment offices into employment offices.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8342) from Phoenix, AZ 12 years ago

His wife Robin has helped to shape his political thoughts, you might start there.

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[-] -1 points by factsrfun (8342) from Phoenix, AZ 12 years ago

thanks for stopping by, have you ever read The Foundation?

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8342) from Phoenix, AZ 12 years ago

I would of thought Krugman had more fans.

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[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8342) from Phoenix, AZ 12 years ago

Wow i wouldn't know where to start,in general I would say there is great value in looking at the system as a whole yet understanding that the output is the result of many individual decisions.