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Forum Post: Fundamentals about Romney.

Posted 11 years ago on Sept. 8, 2012, 10:43 a.m. EST by factsrfun (8314) from Phoenix, AZ
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Mitt Romney built a fair to middling family fortune on the concept of tax avoidance. He is a man who firmly believes that taxes are for little people. He feels that helping out the children of friends and family to get started in life is how you pay back to your community. You give to your church, not to anything else, members of the church always comes first.

If he even realizes what the vast majority Americans live in an entirely different world, where they don’t have trust funds and family friends to send them to collage or set up business. Remember Romney’s student loan program was, ask your parents for a loan, these days that amounts to about $50,000, in Romney’s world that’s pocket change. I am sure that he realizes that there are families that can’t do that, but he just don’t care about them. They are workers, if you start caring about them, you will have trouble making profits when the time comes to fire them. Remember how much Romney likes to fire people.

This is not jumping on little things here and there; this is what the man truly believes. When we look at the overall framing of the election is it a referendum or a choice? To me the referendum question revolves in large part around ego, am I upset because I’ve been let down, while the choice question revolves around, what is the best thing to do. I firmly believe that when we act from ego, we let ourselves and others down, when we try to do the next right thing, we help humanity move forward.

It breaks my heart to think of what might have been if Nader had not put his name on the ballot in Florida. When I think of all the children that will be hungry the sick that will not get aid, and the polar bears. All because of ego. The arctic ice will melt completely next year or the year after, the world has changed, if ego had not infected the 2000 election so deeply could we have stopped it? I don’t know, but we could have tried. As we move forward. Will we act from pain lashing out against those we feel have done us wrong, or will we act from a desire to see tomorrow be better. In this as in all things, the ego is the enemy.



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[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

Romney is the epitome of the 1% corp plutocrat. He is the extreme of what OWS is against. He was outsourcing American jobs at the hight of that movement and probably outsourced more than any other individual.

Hard to believe his party would seek to double down on anti 99% trickle down.

Great post!

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8314) from Phoenix, AZ 11 years ago

It seems the "hating Obama" wing is raising over the "rich are too damn rich" wing, I don't think that will grow our numbers

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

Even on this forum the the wrong forces seem most active lately. I guess the convention and coming election has triggered a ratcheting up of anti dem partisan campaigning.

In regards to growing, I don't OWS has been very successful in terms of growth, but I am still supportive and hopeful.

We must join with like minded groups, be inclusive, create a large coalition to force change.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (8314) from Phoenix, AZ 11 years ago

I think that OWS carries a message, The Rich are TOO damn Rich if we unify around that message force them to hear us, it doesn't matter how big we are, things will change, the reason we are in the mess we are is because the folks with the mics don't understand or don't believe that the rich are too damn rich, it may be that even most supports of OWS don't believe that or don't believe it is the core problem, as I have said many times I'm math guy and big system guy, all I'm saying is that if don't tweak this system to shift the concentration of wealth, the whole system will fail, there is no way around that

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

I agree with you 100%. Just saw a story on thehead of JPMorgan & Citibank salary or bonuse= $24 mill, $15 mill respectively.

It's obscene!. They didn't earn it, they don't deserve it. That must be corrected.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (8314) from Phoenix, AZ 11 years ago

zd put up post on this, here Bernie Sanders talking about this


[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

A very good program - start to finish.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8314) from Phoenix, AZ 11 years ago

I'm grateful to have someone like Bill Moyers to give Jill Stein and her running mate a chance to heard too.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

Yep - that was a good segment - I tweeted the show link as I think it needs to be circulated.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

Saw it. Bernie is the best example of how all pols should conduct themselves.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8314) from Phoenix, AZ 11 years ago

In some ways, but it is their nature.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

Evil, greedy, selfish bastards!

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

I will watch. I would expect it to be good.


[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8314) from Phoenix, AZ 11 years ago

shame really this is from the heart but since I said "Romney" will be passed by, oh well.