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Forum Post: Fracking? Who Needs Safety?

Posted 2 years ago on Sept. 21, 2012, 11:02 a.m. EST by shoozTroll (17632)
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Following "rules" has never been a BIG concern for the oil and gas corporations. Fines are a pittance compared to the profits.

Even death and destruction are no reason to hesitate.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=safety-rules-for-fracking-disposal-wells-often-ignored

Lets keep those regulators off their backs, eh?

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[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Fracking is the most extreme process of shortsighted destruction for short term profits in the the most shortsighted destructive industry on the planet.

A last gasp effort to extract as much as possible before fossil fuels are criminalized.

Our protests are the only thing standing between utter environmental catastrophe and sanity.

Great post. Thx

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Mountaintop mining gives it a run for it's money, but it's more easily visible.

The damage from fracking?

Not so much, until it's way too late.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Maybe. Fracking has the earthquake thing, the flaming faucet thing, the poison water table thing, & the storage of chemicals used thang. So it is certainly right up there.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

They claim deniablity to all those things. A missing mountaintop, is a little harder to deny.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

No doubt. I never believe their denials of course.

And I have been against the mountaintop removal process for a long time.

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4835) 2 years ago

Thank you shooz for post/link.

Problem is even far worse than we realize, as we really don't know what all gas/ oil has done.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

It's not like they feel it behooves them to tell us either.

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[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 2 years ago

Great read: http://www.villagevoice.com/2012-09-19/news/boom-or-doom-fracking-environment/ .

Meme to repeat: if Cuomo backs fracking he'll be a one term governor.

Opposing monstrosities like fracking is what OWS is all about. CorpoRATs and RATpublicans see us as merely cows to be milked.

[-] 1 points by NVPHIL (664) 2 years ago

This is where the reps wet dream of no regulation leads us.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

It's the neolibe(R)tarian wet dream.

It was never anything else.

They had fun with it, in their wonderful little experiment down in Chile.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (22363) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

In compliment to your post: http://nofracking.com/

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Who needs safety?

"Amid controversy, New York will embark on a health impacts study, but residents living in the gaslands are already speaking out about their experiences."

New York would like a little, and hopefully they will get some truth too.

http://www.alternet.org/fracking/how-fracking-danger-your-health

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

It really ticks me off that we have people that are still denying this. Kill off a bunch of anonymous people?

Yeah. Pass it.......

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

What ticks me off are all the folks on the site that claim to be in support of OWS, that NEVER comment on fracking.

It's been a focus for OWS since the beginning.

It's been a labor just to keep it near the top of the bubbling threads.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

Oh, yeah...just like other issues. Give 'em the facts, they repeat their first arguments. Fuck 'em.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Yet it is still difficult to keep this thread in the forefront.

There are always those who really do work to keep it under the radar.

I no longer feel that is coincidental.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

I agree.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

The bigger fish to fry awaits us, in spite of the debates.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (22363) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Your music post is still very popular. Stress relief - always a good thing.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 2 years ago

Yeah, stress relief is good.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (22363) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

BTW - good post - it goes to prove another falsehood - the one that says what you don't know can't harm you. What you don't know can absolutely kill you!!!

[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Damn the regulators!!! There's profits in them there hills and valleys!

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (22363) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Yep - right up to the time that the pollution kills even the polluting assholes.

[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Where's that guy calling for even less regulation?

They're never around to comment on things like this.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (22363) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Forum attackers are hoping to see this thread die a silent death. They will attack once the thread shows no sign of going away.

[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

What's there for them to attack?

These corporations along with their mining corporation brethren, eschew safety regulation at every turn.

People die because of it.

What's there for them to attack?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (22363) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

It is funny to see that the shills will still do a useless silent vote down campaign rather than make a damning comment.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

I think mebbe they don't like me too much........................:)

They will like me less, as I stop playing their little soap opera games.

I can afford a few stinkles anyway................LOL

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (22363) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

You should be honored by their disdain - I know that it puts a bounce in my step. {:-])

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Gives me an excuse to bump this important thread too.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (22363) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

The issue of fracking should be kept in the light of day for examination.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

They want to do it in and around the suburban lake country around here.

Rich people places. It could get interesting.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (22363) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Wouldn't it be nice if they accidentally poisoned some rich peoples properties? Still really sucks for the environment though.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

There's a whole lot of private inland lakes around there.

I could get interesting, although there are some Dems fighting to stop it.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (22363) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I honestly hope they succeed in stopping fracking - not just for that area but for the whole of the state - and I hope that their actions are then mirrored by others - preventing the UN-healable polluting of the environment/air/ground water/soil.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (22363) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Nothing - just the people who support the thread - that is why they are hoping the thread will go away on it's own.