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Forum Post: Fracking Petition

Posted 2 years ago on May 3, 2012, 11:29 a.m. EST by Nevada1 (4784)
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[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4784) 2 years ago

Love this forum.

[-] 2 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 2 years ago

Signed !! A worthwhile fight that ALL should support.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4784) 2 years ago

Thank you Sparky.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4784) 2 years ago

Many good petitions on this thread.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (26439) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Yes there are. Plenty of direct action items to participate in. Keep the pressure on - on all fronts.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (26439) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Update from WFP:

Dan --

Click 'show pictures' to see a photo of me with the boxes of petitions. Yesterday, with old friends and new allies, I helped deliver your petition signature and more than 200,000 others calling on Governor Cuomo to ban fracking in New York.

We couldn't have done it without you. More than 65,000 of those 200,000 signatures came from WFP supporters like you. Your signatures helped us send a powerful message to Governor Cuomo: fracking is not safe and should be banned from New York.

We've delivered your signatures, but there's still a lot of work to do. Can you contribute $15 today to help keep fracking out of New York?

This stack of boxes is not the first public outcry against fracking. The DEC collected more than 66,000 public comments on its latest environmental impact statement -- five times as many as it received for the first draft -- and reports say most of them called for a ban.

Despite the grassroots pressure to end fracking, we still face big challenges. The oil and gas barons who are pushing for this dangerous process to go forward have nearly limitless money. And they're not above using it to subvert the will of the people.

Help us fight back against the corporate push for fracking. Contribute $15 to support our work:

https://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/1306/p/salsa/donation/common/public/?donate_page_KEY=7712

Thanks,

-Karen Scharff, WFP Executive Committee

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4784) 2 years ago

Hi DKA, Excellent!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (26439) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Hey Nevada1 - we should soon see as these efforts continue - how well we are coming along. I pray and hold onto positive thinking.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4784) 2 years ago

Hi DKA, Same here.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (26439) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Some how I thought you might. {:-D

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (26439) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Fracking update from workingfamilies.org. - you must see this video and then you must share it. Look at what industry wants to do to you.

Dan,

Reports say that Governor Cuomo could announce whether fracking will go forward in New York any day now.

Just in time, Gasland director Josh Fox has released a new short film, revealing how the gas and oil industry has attempted to hide the dangerous truth about fracking -- even using the same PR firm that tried to convince Americans that smoking was safe.

You've got to see it. And even more, you've got to help spread the word.

Please, check out the short film, and pass it along to your friends. If enough people know the truth about fracking, and about the sophisticated lies their marketing gurus are selling, it could have a real impact.

Watch the film, spread the word, and help us send Governor Cuomo a strong message: no fracking in New York.

http://action.workingfamiliesparty.org/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=6314

Thanks,

-Joe Dinkin, WFP

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4784) 2 years ago

Excellent. Yes, it is all about getting the truth out.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (26439) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Have you seen the video?

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4784) 2 years ago

No, running on old rural phone line, and can't lode video.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (26439) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Well that sucks - it is a short vid by the guy who did gas-land.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4784) 2 years ago

Have seen gas-land (netflix)---excellent.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (26439) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

People need to see these things. They are not gonna get the truth from TV they are not gonna get the truth from government.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4784) 2 years ago

Media control, is a weapon.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (26439) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

And now the gov is set-up to control it? Did you see that announcement today? I have not seen a confirmation yet - but if true - the propaganda may go 24/7/365 around the world on every TV channel on every Radio Station even controlling the internet here in the USA but also messaging around the world.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4784) 2 years ago

Have not seen this yet. What was the source?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (26439) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

It was in this comment:

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (1880) from Sun City, CA 7 hours ago

I think Romney would continue Obama's course if elected. Obama currently has twice the campaign chest and will likely be the winner.

Here is Obama's latest grab on power:

http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-president-order-communications-770/ ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4784) 2 years ago

Thank you DKA for link. If true, this is a problem.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (26439) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

It could become an even stranger situation then it is now.

I mean WTF ?

Will we shortly become cut off from talking to eachother or to anyone else?

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4784) 2 years ago

Yes, isolated.

If article is true, this would likely be part of a grand plan.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (26439) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

One of the White House web sites was doing maintenance all day today - I wonder if it has anything to do with it?

Well if we get cut out of the communication loop it will all have to happen in the streets.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (26439) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Apparently a corpoRAT shill does not like the video.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4784) 2 years ago

Ouch! Hopefully, a new bill can be introduced canceling the current fracking bill that passed by accident.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (26439) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Fracking is controversial for a reason. It has some serious, and seriously under-studied affects on our health and our environment.

We shouldn't be rushing to expand fracking operations on millions of acres of public lands in the West »

http://www.care2.com/go/z/e/AGntq/zmyd/B18Bb

I can think of plenty of reasons we should think twice about opening up fracking across the American West. There's that flammable tap water in Pennsylvania and the poor air quality in Wyoming -- sometimes worse than famously smoggy Los Angeles. Oh, and let's not forget the earthquakes in Ohio potentially caused by fracking operations.

The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) could open vast swaths of Colorado, Utah and Wyoming public lands to fracking. It would destroy critical habitat, threaten species and contribute to global warming pollution. It's a lose-lose-lose plan.

Tell the BLM you oppose massive fracking operations in the West »

http://www.care2.com/go/z/e/AGntq/zmyd/B18Bb

Thanks for taking action!

Emily V. Care2 and ThePetitionSite Team

Don't Destroy the West with Dangerous Fracking Take Action Now! Take Action!

Take action link: http://www.care2.com/go/z/e/AGntq/zmyd/B18Bb


What I said on the petition:

This fracking is not needed we have a current glut and as such are exporting LNG Oil and Gasoline.

Why destroy the environment when it is not needed. Cost? No. We are exporting and cost is still high.

We should be moving in other directions.

Green Tech.

This is where we should be going: Green Energy we have the technology we just need to use it. This is what I am talking about. A clean future to be implemented NOW!

http://www.hopewellproject.org/

http://ecat.com/

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/12/ff_new_nukes/all/1

FuelCell Energy http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/news/progress_alerts.cfm/pa_id=600

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4784) 2 years ago

Excellent. Thank you DKA, for your effort. Every bit of pressure helps.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (26439) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Your welcome - I am trying to keep this issue to the front for people to consider.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

the front page has turned to global issues which is classy and encouraging

but they aren't generating discussion

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (26439) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Thanks for the heads up. I got lost in being attacked and trying to defend positive action.

My Bad.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (26439) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Celebrate.

Dan --

Vermont is about to become the first state to ban fracking.

Tell Governor Cuomo that New York should be next!

On Friday, the Vermont legislature approved a ban on fracking. Once Governor Shumlin signs the ban, it will mark the nation's first statewide ban on fracking.[1]

This is a huge moment, and it could set an important precedent. New York could (and should!) be next. Now all it will take is leadership from Governor Cuomo.

Last week, our coalition delivered more than 200,000 petition signatures to the Governor's office calling for a ban on fracking. But we still haven't heard an answer, so we need to keep going.

Sign our petition to urge Governor Cuomo to ban fracking in New York.

http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=OZ6QurH%2BUKsSgCLBobub0opWvC/XZ%2BQI

Once you've signed, you can share the good news in Vermont and help spread the word by forwarding this email.

Vermont's vote came on the same day the federal Bureau of Land Management released new standards for fracking. But the standards are so laughably weak that it's almost as if the government didn't bother to issue them at all.[2]

So, what are the new regulations? The frackers will have to disclose the chemicals they pump into the ground, but -- get this -- not until after drilling is complete. And to try to make sure the wells don't break in the wrong places, the federal government will now require drillers to conduct the bare minimum tests -- the same ones they've already been doing for years. If you think that's enough, you're either crazy or, more likely, a gas company lobbyist.

Vermont knows that the process isn't safe. So they banned it. And, more importantly, they've also banned importation and disposal of fracking wastewater in the state, protecting the public from all of the negative effects of the chemical-heavy process.

New York should do no less. Drinking water is worth too much to gamble with.

Sign our petition asking Governor Cuomo be a national leader by keeping New Yorkers safe. Urge him to ban fracking in New York.

http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=suAMP2qV/DsuTgysD%2B2zsYpWvC/XZ%2BQI

http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=K/uzRG3jnX80V08xvxIi2IpWvC/XZ%2BQI

http://action.workingfamiliesparty.org/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=5781

Thanks,

-Dan Cantor, WFP

Sources: 1. http://7d.blogs.com/blurt/2012/05/vermont-becomes-first-state-in-country-to-ban-fracking.html 2. http://grist.org/list/blm-announces-draft-of-common-sense-rules-for-fracking/

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4784) 2 years ago

Hi DKA, Thank you for post. This is so excellent. This is progress. Hoping NY and other states follow. BLM needs more pressure, which they will get. Best Regards

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (26439) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Nevada1 - wow you are truly one of a kind. In four hours and this post being buried again you found it and responded. Wish there were more like you. Yes this is a huge step forward and I pray that others will take heart and find the wanting to participate in their community in their state in their country. Thank you.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (26439) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Thank you again for staying on top of this issue. I signed and forwarded it.

https://secure3.convio.net/engage/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=5593

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (26439) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Fracking update from Care2

Thanks to the hard lobbying work of a bunch of Bush-era oil cronies, the EPA can't do much regulating when it comes to fracking chemicals. The one exception is diesel fuel.

Tell the EPA to use its authority and ban fracking with diesel »

Fracking involves pumping millions of gallons of water laced with all sorts of chemicals underground to release trapped natural gas and oil. Even if the "Halliburton Rule" -- as the 2005 law stripping EPA authority is called -- prevents the EPA from regulating the other chemicals, the agency must take action where it can. Diesel contains cancer-causing toxins like benzene, toluene, xylene and more that must stay out of our water supply.

The EPA is taking comments on how to regulate diesel in fracking until July 9, which means we have only a few days to make our voices heard.

Sign the petition today and urge the EPA to come down hard on diesel fuel in fracking that could contaminate our drinking water. »

Thanks for taking action!

Emily V.

Care2 and ThePetitionSite Team

Keep Diesel Out of Our Drinking Water

Take Action Now!

Take Action!

Take action link: http://www.care2.com/go/z/e/AGTQ8/zMEe/B18Bb

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Signed yesterday. Thanx.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (26439) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Thank you.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4784) 2 years ago

Thank you for new petition.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (26439) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Gotta keep the pressure on.

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[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Here's another reason to think twice about fracking.

There's been an increase in flaring.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=fracking-causes-rise-in-flaring

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4784) 2 years ago

Hi shooz, Thank you for post. Best Regards

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

With silly season well upon us, it gets harder to keep these type of things n focus.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

You can petition till you are blue in the face. The people in charge dont care what you have to say. Until you come up with a plan to get them out, expect more of the same.

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[+] -4 points by Jagger01 (-6) 2 years ago

I support fracking. Where do i sign up?

[-] 3 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

Maybe you should move to one of the towns where the water catches fire or earthquakes are wreaking havok. I understand the costs of housing has dropped precipitously. Good luck!

[-] 0 points by Pequod (17) 2 years ago

I was in Louisiana last week staying at a hotel filled with oil and gas workers. Right now in South Texas there is a serious shortage of workers needed in the oil fields. These are very high paying jobs with full benefits. I asked the workers if they felt any danger in their jibs and to a man they said no.

We need jobs, high paying jobs, and yet we turn our nose to oil jobs. Why? These jobs raise families, allow high school grads to grab their share of the pie. Where are the alternatives to these high income jobs?

[-] 2 points by VQkag (930) 2 years ago

Who turns there nose to high paying energy jobs? The industry continues to grow especially nat gas. I don't think you have the facts. employment is up in these industries and will continue to go up.

[-] 1 points by kilroywashere (20) 2 years ago

Actually, no. Natural gas is hoovering around all time lows, barely off the bottom. Oil is falling steadily. The shift from natural gas (due to over supply) to oil (which had a better price, before it started sliding) was supposed to stabilize energy companies who over extended into nat. gas and produced the glut in the first place. Energy companies are a victim of their own success with horizontal drilling and fracking. too much of a 'good thing' in their terms.

But the issue of good paying jobs is addressed best by a history of the past 25 years in oil and gas. The Boom-Bust cycle has lost as many jobs as were created in oil/gas. Long term job stability in oil and gas is luck of the draw. Oil/Gas will shed all those lucrative jobs in a nanosecond...and probably sooner than you think.

As far as xylene, toluene, benzene in the diesel, those ppm amounts 10,000 feet down would likely expose you less than the exhaust from materials containing that on the high way blowing out of exhaust pipes, with a big multiplier on the exposure rates. Not that xylene in our water is a good thing, but if you fear these things, look at your most LIKELY avenue of exposure. driving. "If you fear the wolf in the field, you'd BETTER fear the wolf in your yard more".

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