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Forum Post: For Those In And Around NYC, 29th - 31st May, consider .. the http://www.leftforum.org/

Posted 2 years ago on March 30, 2015, 10:54 a.m. EST by lugano (1221)
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http://www.leftforum.org/

A unique phenomenon in the U.S. and the world, Left Forum convenes the largest annual conference of a broad spectrum of left and progressive intellectuals, activists, academics, organizations and the interested public.

Conference participants come together to engage a wide range of critical perspectives on the world, to discuss differences, commonalities, and alternatives to current predicaments, and to share ideas for understanding and transforming the world. The conference is held each year in New York City.

Left Forum is the culmination of the creative efforts of thousands of participants, panel and workshop organizers, and hundreds of volunteers who engage the gamut of conference organizing activities, from helping generate artistic events and panels, to outreach and involvement of a rainbow of organizations and individuals.

The 2014 gathering involved 4,500 participants, 1,200 speakers and hundreds of panels, workshops, and events. Left Forum conferences have included talks by Noam Chomsky, Arundhati Roy, Angela Davis, Harry Belafonte, Naomi Klein, Michael Moore, Cornel West, Bolivian Vice President Álvaro García Linera, Amy Goodman, Slavoj Zizek, Grace Lee Boggs, RoseAnn DeMoro, Marina Sitrin, Nnimmo Bassey, Immortal Technique and Oliver Stone.

2015 REGISTRATION - http://www.leftforum.org/civicrm/event/info?reset=1&id=833

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[-] 3 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 2 years ago

I'm really looking forward to going to the Left Forum this year.

[-] 5 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

http://www.leftforum.org/ sounds great and if you do go, please give us a brief report back and/or some links. + Fyi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzQYA9Qjsi0 (What The 1% Don't Want Us To Know!)

[-] 5 points by trashyharry (3082) from Waterville, NY 2 years ago

I will be Live Tweeting and will post here daily what I see&hear.Hopefully others will be able to as well.

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[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (33200) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

[-] 4 points by lugano (992) 1 hour ago

Blessings trashyharry. I'll be following your ''Live Tweeting''. Do you have to be up with the birds to do that? Solidarity to you and attendees and here are a couple of articles that may be of interest to you -

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/opinion/Time-to-Ditch-Lesser-Evilism-in-USA-20150508-0016.html - and

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/30-Years-Ago-Philadelphia-Police-Bombed-a-Black-Neighborhood-20150513-0024.html

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12th track: (Hiding in plain sight)

All it requires - is - enough expressed vitriol for the system in general - and many will believe you mean it - while one need not provide any supporting substance.

  • by (mdonelly & turbocharger - harmonizing - the Cronies singing back-up)

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[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (33200) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

[-] 3 points by lugano (1053) 3 hours ago

http://www.leftforum.org/ is the matter in hand but was the comment to you? Was it on your thread? Is your spam relevant? Is your behaviour that of a reasonable person? Try to cease and desist and change. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink

13th track: (Stinkle teaming away) "one of our very favorites - we can bully and manipulate the boards by teaming up to stinkle comments or twinkle our BS - but we really hate it if anyone calls us out on it - and it drives us insane if we are subjected to anything like it ourselves."

Stinkle teaming away Stinkle teaming away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

We know a man He came from my hometown He shared his passion for this world in deeds that needed to be done

He said, world, I live in fear My love for you’s so overpowering and I’m afraid that you will be disappeared”

We had stinkle teamed Him away Stinkle teamed Him away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

And, We know a woman Became an advocate to support life These are the very words she uses to describe her life She said, “A good day Ain’t got no stinkle team” She said, “A bad day’s when I lie in bed And think of things that should have been”

We had stinkle teamed Her away Stinkle teamed Her away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

And We know a father Who had a son He longed to tell him all the reasons For the things that needed be done He came a long way Just to explain He kissed his boy as he lay sleeping Then he turned around and headed home again

We had stinkle teamed Him away Stinkle teamed Him away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

We say "God only knows God makes his plan" We say "The information’s unavailable To the mortal man" We want You to work your jobs Collect your pay To believe you’re gliding down the highway When in fact you’ve been stinkle teamed away

Stinkle teaming away Stinkle teaming away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

  • by (mdonelly & turbocharger - harmonizing - the Cronies singing back-up) "Sung to the tune of Paul Simon's - Slip Sliding Away"

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[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (33200) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

[-] 1 points by lugano (1054) 15 minutes ago

Petty Tinpot Tyrants just like you - show how the price of democracy and freedom is constant vigilance. Removing my valid comments, copy/pasting them seems oxymoronic until we realise that your purpose is to stifle any exchange of ideas and debate and have all/most replies funnel to you. You're out of order on so many levels that it's unreal. You're collecting Bad Karma hand over fist too. It's shameful behavior.

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[EDIT] Ha Ha ha . . . . ur funny = "Petty Tinpot Tyrants just like you"

You really have your shorts in a knot - because your stinkle team gang-up bullying tactics have been made moot.

EDIT-> "It's shameful behavior."

Just not for you - HEY?

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[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (33200) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

[-] 2 points by lugano (1065) 56 minutes ago

Petty Tinpot Tyrants just like you - show how the price of democracy and freedom is constant vigilance. Removing my valid comments, copy/pasting them seems oxymoronic until we realise that your purpose is to stifle any exchange of ideas and debate and have all/most replies funnel to you. You're out of order on so many levels that it's unreal. You're collecting Bad Karma hand over fist too. It's shameful behavior.

As you can see... two (or more) can play at petty copy / paste nonsense. You and your nature are self-revealed as are your sad attempts to manipulate these boards and to counter the rough democracy that operates here. Your manic 'edits'/boorish behavior serves this forum poorly and now embarrasses us all.

I seem to recall another disrupter on this forum using the term ''stinkle team'' .. when he couldn't handle the fact people just did not agree with or like him or what he was saying here and so voted accordingly.

Finally, per the http://www.leftforum.org/ - see > http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/30819-us-original-sin-and-the-2016-presidential-election Now go do us all a favor and go seek some urgently needed help and stop trying to manipulate, subvert and soil these threads with your BS copy/pasting and sickness.

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13th track: (Stinkle teaming away) "one of our very favorites - we can bully and manipulate the boards by teaming up to stinkle comments or twinkle our BS - but we really hate it if anyone calls us out on it - and it drives us insane if we are subjected to anything like it ourselves."

Stinkle teaming away Stinkle teaming away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

We know a man He came from my hometown He shared his passion for this world in deeds that needed to be done

He said, world, I live in fear My love for you’s so overpowering and I’m afraid that you will be disappeared”

We had stinkle teamed Him away Stinkle teamed Him away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

And, We know a woman Became an advocate to support life These are the very words she uses to describe her life She said, “A good day Ain’t got no stinkle team” She said, “A bad day’s when I lie in bed And think of things that should have been”

We had stinkle teamed Her away Stinkle teamed Her away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

And We know a father Who had a son He longed to tell him all the reasons For the things that needed be done He came a long way Just to explain He kissed his boy as he lay sleeping Then he turned around and headed home again

We had stinkle teamed Him away Stinkle teamed Him away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

We say "God only knows God makes his plan" We say "The information’s unavailable To the mortal man" We want You to work your jobs Collect your pay To believe you’re gliding down the highway When in fact you’ve been stinkle teamed away

Stinkle teaming away Stinkle teaming away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

  • by (mdonelly & turbocharger - harmonizing - the Cronies singing back-up) "Sung to the tune of Paul Simon's - Slip Sliding Away"

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[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (33200) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1174) 18 minutes ago

Further to http://www.leftforum.org/ it'd be interesting to hear from fellow posters by reply; PM; e-mail;

DM; telephone; text; carrier pigeon; bush drums; psychic transmission or any other comms modality -

IF anyone can read my original comments and replies - Rather Than via your manic copy/pasting, lol.

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If I have accomplished nothing else by tying your comments to a translation "key" explaining status-quo opt out support tactics - I have gotten you and others of your group to actually post and repost some useful links - like the left forum http://www.leftforum.org/

Really pisses you off that you have to fight to maintain your cover rather than be spending your time promoting the people to take no action - HEY?

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[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (33200) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1186) 2 minutes ago

WTF are you on about MadDogtoday? Hey, look here what your Mistress jart said about the likes of you https://twitter.com/justinetunney/status/450775171528663041 What do you think she'd think IF she saw her now feral ex-pet - being so fkn naughty on this Still Extant OWS Forum? You really need to get real!

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1st track: (Dancing) "When we want to change the subject to put it back on someone else - because we can't defend a position that we have been pressured on - ooo look something shiny - and we will be relentless repeating it to infinity in every place we can find to place it"

dancing............ Dancing............. DANCING................ we're a dancing machine

Ah baby

Move it baby

dancing . . . Dancing . . . DANCING . . .

. . . . we're a dancing machine . . . Ah baby

Move it baby

We dance to avoid to evade as we got nothing to provide . . . . Who needs substance - dancing is easier to do then actually most anything else . . . . . .

cause we're dancing............ Dancing............. DANCING................ we're a dancing machine . . . . . . ooo LOOK something shiny . . . . .

  • "Our theme song" - by (mdonelly, turbocharger and the Cronies)

2nd track: (Specious aspersions) "When one has nothing and can't defend their position""

We throw specious aspersions as we have nothing else to say.

  • by (mdonelly & turbocharger - harmonizing)
[-] -1 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

''Organized Labor Should Spend the Rest of 2015 Training Workers How to Fight''by David Goodner

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/30772-organized-labor-should-spend-the-rest-of-2015-training-workers-how-to-fight - and see IF you can get your overly large, ass-hat wearing head around that.

Keep spewing your... mendacious, pseudo-progressive, conservative, reactionary pretensions and copy/pasted crap and exhibiting your NPD - the rest of us will try to do the 99% work despite you +

http://occupywallst.org/forum/all-one-really-needs-to-know-about-the-tpp-history/#comment-1059747

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33200) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1223) 6 hours ago

''Organized Labor Should Spend the Rest of 2015 Training Workers How to Fight''by David Goodner

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/30772-organized-labor-should-spend-the-rest-of-2015-training-workers-how-to-fight - and see IF you can get your overly large, ass-hat wearing head around that.

Keep spewing your... mendacious, pseudo-progressive, conservative, reactionary pretensions and copy/pasted crap and exhibiting your NPD - the rest of us will try to do the 99% work despite you +

http://occupywallst.org/forum/all-one-really-needs-to-know-about-the-tpp-history/#comment-1059747

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10th track: (Tossing Shit)

As We have nothing to back-up our stated positions (opt-out fiction = public self defeating) - We will do our best to throw it back on ( put a lie on) any who would ask for details of our non-existent action plans (Ya know......those who put the lie to our bullshit - "who shine the light on our bullshit").

The putdown we use on others is simple - and with it in play - we then retreat - to our constant tactic of providing nothing while saying much (politi-speak = talking endlessly while saying "really" nothing at all - nothing of any value - see also: endlessly arguing circular "public self defeating" logic).

Tossing shit - we love it.

  • by (mdonelly, turbocharger, lugano, windyacres - harmonizing & the Cronies singing back-up)

12th track: (Hiding in plain sight) "Also known as trying to hide in the light"

We get really strident with this - when we feel we need to reapply shredded cover

All it requires - is - enough expressed vitriol for the system in general - and many will believe you mean it - while one need not provide any supporting substance.

(part 2)

When the 1st part is not enough we also love to pretend to support protest and things (whatever is handy) - helps to throw off suspicion.

  • by (mdonelly, turbocharger, lugano, windyacres - harmonizing & the Cronies singing back-up)
[-] -1 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

Again note: http://www.leftforum.org/ and... do you think that your irrelevant and unconscionable spam coupled with your OCD/NPD means that I and others will just shrug our shoulders and walk away from this OWS Forum just because you've abused Mod-Rights and tried to usurp this forum?! Also consider again: http://occupywallst.org/forum/war-hawks-in-government-who-are-these-guys/#comment-1059933

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33200) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 2 hours ago

Again note: http://www.leftforum.org/ and... do you think that your irrelevant and unconscionable spam coupled with your OCD/NPD means that I and others will just shrug our shoulders and walk away from this OWS Forum just because you've abused Mod-Rights and tried to usurp this forum?! Also consider again: http://occupywallst.org/forum/war-hawks-in-government-who-are-these-guys/#comment-1059933

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I don't expect that you will do anything other than what you always do =

9th track: (Take no action) "as Nothing can be done - believe us!"

We support the status quo of handing the USA over to the 1% - but that just don't float - so instead we urge taking no action and clothe it in an appearence to be rebelling against the system - and we are so happy that few catch on to these facts

Because you know we're all about that base, 'Public base, to take no action

We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base

Yeah it's pretty clear, we ain't for you

But we can shake it, shake it like we're supposed to do

'Cause We got that boom boom that all the 1%'s chase

All the right crap spread in all the right places

We see the citizens groups working that action to take

We know that shit ain't real (believe us)

Come on now, make it stop ( as we like things the way they are)

If you got apathy apathy - just raise it up

'Cause every inch of you is perfect

From the bottom to the top

Yeah, our Koch he told us don't worry about your stance

He says, people they like a little more BS to hold to at night

You know we won't support no publc-figure, speaking truth to all,

So, if that's what's you're into

Then go ahead and move along

Because you know we're all about that base, 'Public base, to take no action

We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base

We're bringing doody back

Go ahead and tell them citizens groups hey

No, We're not playing - you stink - you're naive,

We're here to tell you,

Every inch of you is played from from the cradle to the grave

Yeah, our Koch told us don't worry about your stance

He says, people they like a little more BS to hold at night

You know we won't support no publc-figure, speaking truth to all,

So, if that's what's you're into

Then go ahead and move along

Because you know we're all about that base, 'Public base, to take no action

We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base

Because you know we're all about that base, 'Public base, to take no action

We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base

Because you know we're all about that base, 'Public base, to take no action

We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base

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[-] -1 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

"In such a world of conflict, a world of victims and executioners, it is the job of thinking people, not to be on the side of the executioners." (Albert Camus) + Edit: The following 4 paras were repeatedly removed by the Petty Tinpot Tyrant with a Napoleon Complex whose disrupting this forum - created by "radicals":

So let us all get this right: my initial response TO trashyharry's reply TO me on this my forum-post was ''Removed''/Shadow Banned BY you so that she can't even see my reply to her ; then YOU jump in and spew your shit at me, quibbling with your conservative, reactionary crap ; THEN, you ''Remove''/Shadow Ban My Next 5 replies TO you ; AND THEN - You Fkn PM me with the interminable crap on your forum home page and...WHAT? Am I actually expected to read it? Or spend 10+ minutes scrolling through it?

You are a fkn mean-minded, mendacious, manipulative moron of THE Highest Order and you'd be much better off getting your fat head out of your overly padded ass and try to get the empty, echo chamber of your simple mind around this ... http://www.blackagendareport.com/obama-bogus-reform-on-militarized-police and this http://www.leftforum.org/ -

Finally, ''Removing'' my comments (8 below + 6 above) is actually getting you nowhere .. DorK.+ see http://wagingnonviolence.org/feature/how-swedes-and-norwegians-broke-the-power-of-the-1-percent/

I know that its 'The Year Of The Sheep' and all that but we don't have to be meek as lambs going to the slaughter, especially as ''a little rebellion is a good thing''! Now consider ... why don't you MoveOn.org?!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33200) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 3 minutes ago

"In such a world of conflict, a world of victims and executioners, it is the job of thinking people, not to be on the side of the executioners." (Albert Camus)

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lugey! you old blob of spit you - does this mean that you are gonna start attacking the rethuglican structure? Bout time!

[-] -1 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

There's more than one road to similar destinations and several points along the way. Activism, agitating, communicating, educating, organising, sharing, voting etc. Etc. ETc. ETC.! Voting Dem and expecting anything from Dem POTUS Billary Clinton ... is exactly what The 1% Dem Pols want from their "base"!

I get that like others here, that you are all long term Democratic Party voters and of course there is no shame in that (because wtf else would you have done?) - BUT whyTF have you folded yourself into the mindset and persona of Dem Party Pols? WhatTF do you actually think that OWS is really all about?

Of course ''Rethuglicans'' are unconscionable psychopaths - we know this and they are beyond the pale but the USA's Duopolistic System does not need or want Democraps to be exactly the same - as it just needs them NOT To Be Different Enough to maintain The Illusion of Choice so that The Banker, Oligarch and Corporate Tyranny and Imperialist System can continue! Do you get it? Do you even want to get it?!

The American people have been ''Good Cop / Bad Copped'' for generations. FDR would be considered a Pinko and JFK was probably the last Dem POTUS who had The 99% at heart but - Obomber and Billary are NOT of that ilk. Finally - a couple of links... http://truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/social-justice-begins-at-the-grassroots-not-with-coverage-of-the-2016-presidential-campaign + http://www.leftforum.org/

Your fears about ''protest'' and activism and building a Wide Church Mass Movement are duly noted as is your faith in the 1%'s ''political arena'' but stop getting in the way and denigrating other ways to work.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33200) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 0 minutes ago

There's more than one road to similar destinations and several points along the way. Activism, agitating, communicating, educating, organising, sharing, voting etc. Etc. ETc. ETC.! Voting Dem and expecting anything from Dem POTUS HC is what The 1% Dem Pols want!

I get that like others here, that you are all long term Democratic Party voters and of course there is no shame in that (because wtf else would you have done?) - BUT whyTF have you folded yourself into the mindset and persona of Democratic Pols? WhatTF do you actually think that OWS is really all about?

Of course ''Rethuglicans'' are unconscionable psychopaths - we know this and they are beyond the pale but the USA's Duopolistic System does not need or want Democraps to be exactly the same - as it just needs them NOT To Be Different Enough to maintain The Illusion of Choice so that The Banker, Oligarch and Corporate Tyranny and Imperialist System can continue! Do you get it? Do you even want to get it?!

The American people have been ''Good Cop / Bad Copped'' for generations. FDR would be considered a Pinko and JFK was probably the last Dem POTUS who had The 99% at heart but - Obomber and Billary are NOT of that ilk. Finally - a couple of links... http://truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/social-justice-begins-at-the-grassroots-not-with-coverage-of-the-2016-presidential-campaign + http://www.leftforum.org/

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17th track "(We will endlessly argue meaningless "public self defeating" circular logic)"

We will endlessly argue meaningless "public self defeating" circular logic

We get that from the rethuglicans.

We will tell you that we have something good.

But when asked what that is - we can't formulate a straight answer.

So we will go back to arguing a meaningless self defeating circular logic.

Like:

Don't vote because that won't help - just protest instead because that will make everything better all by itself.

And if you don't accept that and refute it - we will gang-up on you and stinkle team you relentlessly - because that proves that we are right and you are wrong. It goes hand in hand with our meaningless "public self defeating" circular logic.

  • by (mdonelly, turbocharger, lugano, windyacres - harmonizing & the Cronies singing back-up)
[-] -1 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

Still not getting that your attempts at auditioning for 'Loon of The Century' are still going unread? Try this

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/30910-dahr-jamail-the-navy-s-great-alaskan-war and see IF you get it.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33200) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 1 hour ago

Still not getting that your attempts at auditioning for 'Loon of The Century' are still going unread? Try this

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/30910-dahr-jamail-the-navy-s-great-alaskan-war and see IF you get it.

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And let me guess - your proposal (which you never speak of) would be to protest war gaming to end it - because the people can not own government by any action to put representation of the people into office.

Bout sums it up - for all of your propaganda - it amounts to opt-out and just protest. Right?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33200) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 47 minutes ago

Still not getting that your attempts at auditioning for 'Loon of The Century' are still going unread? Try this

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/30910-dahr-jamail-the-navy-s-great-alaskan-war and see IF you get it.

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1st track: (Dancing) "When we want to change the subject to put it back on someone else - because we can't defend a position that we have been pressured on - ooo look something shiny - and we will be relentless repeating it to infinity in every place we can find to place it"

dancing............ Dancing............. DANCING................ we're a dancing machine

Ah baby

Move it baby

dancing . . . Dancing . . . DANCING . . .

. . . . we're a dancing machine . . . Ah baby

Move it baby

We dance to avoid to evade as we got nothing to provide . . . . Who needs substance - dancing is easier to do then actually most anything else . . . . . .

cause we're dancing............ Dancing............. DANCING................ we're a dancing machine . . . . . . ooo LOOK something shiny . . . . .

  • by (mdonelly, turbocharger, lugano, windyacres - harmonizing & the Cronies singing back-up)
[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

It's 20th - 22nd May this year: http://www.leftforum.org/ Solidarity!

respice; adspice; prospice ...

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

FREE admission to http://www.leftforum.org/ for high school kids, btw.

[-] 0 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 2 years ago

FREE admission for high school kids at the Left Forum?! WOW, that's incredible! I even heard that for the first time, there will be FREE childcare (Sat & Sun from 9:45 am to 5:45 pm)! There are only 3 (2 now) more days left to register. I'm sure Democrats are welcome, but I think that they have to 'behave.' How ironic, a radical suggesting that corrupt Democrats should mind their behavior? laughing

http://www.leftforum.org/

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

"We were taught under the old ethic that man's business on this earth was to look out for himself. That was the ethic of the jungle; the ethic of the wild beast. Take care of yourself, no matter what may become of your fellow man. Thousands of years ago the question was asked; ''Am I my brother's keeper?'' That question has never yet been answered in a way that is satisfactory to civilized society.

''Yes, I am my brother's keeper. I am under a moral obligation to him that is inspired, not by any maudlin sentimentality but by the higher duty I owe myself. What would you think me if I were capable of seating myself at a table and gorging myself with food and saw about me the children of my fellow beings starving to death": (Eugene V. Debs: 1908 speech)

Solidarity for http://www.leftforum.org/ - right now, it's ALL about the kids! Educate. Agitate. Organise.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

It's not a forum at all

forum is open to the public

and this one is restricted by location and likely to have controlled speakers

[-] 3 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 2 years ago

The Left Forum is open to the public, so what makes it not a "forum"? Just because that its "location" might be inconvenient to you, and not everyone can be a "speaker".... that does not make it, ".not a forum..." There is a difference between what something is, and what you want it to be.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

sorry

[-] 3 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 2 years ago

No apology is necessary. While I got you, I just wanna tell you that, 'I have a lot of respect for the near daily 'drone attack' reports that you put up on here.' They highlight our hypocrisy in our quest for hegemony.

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 2 years ago

fair and balanced

[-] 2 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 2 years ago

I think that slogan is already taken. lol How 'bout just 'sincere'?

[-] 4 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

''As Seattle City Council member Kshama Sawant recently put it “…that lesser-evilism argument is missing is the big, big chunk of America that is completely disengaged from politics; if you look at the approval ratings of U.S. Congress, if you look at the percentages of people who go to the polls, and if you look at the polls that show that 60 percent of Americans are fed up and frustrated with the two-party system and want something different…”

''Sawant also pointed out that while some on the Left agonize over swing states, the Democrats will be going all out to defeat her in Seattle where the Republicans are not even a factor.'' from -

''Time to Ditch Lesser Evilism in USA'' By Joe Emersberger - http://www.telesurtv.net/english/opinion/Time-to-Ditch-Lesser-Evilism-in-USA-20150508-0016.html

[-] 4 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

''Greece’s Yanis Varoufakis: The Medicine of Austerity Is Not Working, We Need a New Treatment'' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4uc45rmxJA [15m] + Well worth any time spent watching this.

Greece is supposed to receive the last instalment of its bailout funds from European creditors, but the country’s new leftist, anti-austerity Syriza party has expressed concerns about its terms.The creditors are reportedly again pressuring Greece to restructure its labor market and curtail its pension system... Syriza has instead done the opposite by increasing pension payments to lower-wage workers. Greece is being used by Bankers and Oligarchs to teach others a lesson and that's why they deserve support.

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (22780) 2 years ago

How does any system that is based on any moral authority whatsoever defend austerity for regular people and pensioners and wealth for oligarchs and bankers and the 1%? How? In history, this kind of rule would be overthrown. Why in the 21st century is this crap allowed to continue without an uprising?

Varoufakis on austerity: "The medicine wasn't working...it was toxic and making a bad thing worse."

The Eurozone was never designed to sustain or absorb the shock of what happened in 2008. In the US you had shock absorbing mechanisms to deal with the Global Financial Crisis. And, now Europe is trying to put it to countries like Greece, Spain, Portugal and Ireland to make up for it. What Greece needs now is a mutually advantageous outcome for themselves and Europe. Let's hope that that space can be found. The Troika needs to accept that austerity is not working, and that it is self-defeating, and find a solution that doesn't leave the Greek people on their knees, frankly, and that requires the wealthy to pay taxes. An overall increase to incomes would provide an increase in overall total revenue, something austerity absolutely does the opposite of.

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

Austerity in Greece is all about the ritual sacrifice of Greeks to the High Alter of The Illusion of Solvency of Franco-German Banks and the ECB. The issues faced by Greece at this time are really important to us all. Also fyi, please consider: ''Corruption is Legal in America - Does The Government Represent The People'' (Video) http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41897.htm for some interesting insights.

[-] 0 points by beautifulworld (22780) 2 years ago

"In the last 5 years alone, the 200 most politically active companies in the US spent $5.8 billion influencing our government with lobbying and campaign contributions.

Those same companies got $4.4 trillion in taxpayer support — earning a return of 750 times their investment. It’s a vicious cycle of legalized corruption."

And, odious debt is the name of the game. People mistake debt for money and so take it on not realizing the hole it puts them in. It's a trick. Debt is not money. It's debt!

And, the definition of odious debt is:

"In international law, odious debt, also known as illegitimate debt, is a legal theory that holds that the national debt incurred by a regime for purposes that do not serve the best interests of the nation, should not be enforceable."

That is what the Greek people have been stuck with, odious debt, and Syriza is trying to free them of it, rightly so.

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

“A man does what he must -- in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers -- and this is the basis of all human morality.": (John F. Kennedy {1917-1963} - 35th US President) and so with that very much in mind and in honor and support of Yanis Varoufakis, I link to ... http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/greece-government-reforms-by-yanis-varoufakis-2015-05 from which I excerpt

''(IF) our government is willing to embrace the reforms that our partners expect, why have the negotiations not produced an agreement? Where is the sticking point?

''The problem is simple: Greece’s creditors insist on even greater austerity for this year and beyond – an approach that would impede recovery, obstruct growth, worsen the debt-deflationary cycle, and, in the end, erode Greeks’ willingness and ability to see through the reform agenda that the country so desperately needs. Our government cannot – and will not – accept a cure that has proven itself over five long years to be worse than the disease.''

Your points about ''Odious Debt'' are spot on and The 99% should demand Jubilee and a 'reset' asap,as per the sage advice of OT patriarchs. Banks were bailed out in 2008 & have had QE, but it's the 'bailout' of The 99% that will revive moribund societies and economies - right across the world. Solidarity to you.

[-] 0 points by beautifulworld (22780) 2 years ago

"Clearly, our creditors’ demand for more austerity has nothing to do with concerns about genuine reform or moving Greece onto a sustainable fiscal path. Their true motivation is a question best left to future historians – who, I have no doubt, will take much of the contemporary media coverage with a grain of salt." Yanis Varoufakis

So, what will history say of this era? Maybe something like "The Era of Destructive Unsustainable Greed and Inequity"

Thank god for people like Yanis Varoufakis who get it and who are willing to put people over profit. What point is an economic system if it's not serving the people?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33200) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

http://occupywallst.org/forum/for-those-in-and-around-nyc-may-29th-31st-may-http/#comment-1061104

And they still do not have a government of the people for the people - who - would put the austerity onto the wealthy who hide their money in off-shore tax havens.

Protest may get a change of government - but - if the people do not place representation that represents them into office - then - basically - NOTHING CHANGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

''Thank god for people like Yanis Varoufakis who get it and who are willing to put people over profit. What point is an economic system if it's not serving the people?'' The Greek 99% stood up strong & they were counted! + fyi: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article42308.htm by YV, 6th July, 2015.Yaaaay!

[-] 0 points by windyacres (1197) 2 years ago

And a media coverage that future historians will take with a grain of salt. There should be more major reports on the specifics of Greece and the coming elections in Spain. Plenty of news, just handled with an agenda.

[-] 0 points by beautifulworld (22780) 2 years ago

Right. Corporate MSM media weeds out the important things, the things that might really cause the people to say, hey, wait a minute, that's not right! instead of constantly putting on "news" that gets the people to think that our country is the best ever! and nothing needs to change.

It's fascist brainwashing that we get from MSM, not news.

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

Yanis Varoufakis is a battle worn but learned warrior for The 99% - Greek and otherwise, so The Troika (IMF, World Bank and ECB) hate his guts ... for speaking truth to power with the authority of facts and logic and errrr.. TRUTH! They Fear Him! Just like They Fear Us! Of course there'll be Govt Stooges and spies at http://www.leftforum.org/ / https://twitter.com/leftforum but The 99% forge on to form the multi-headed Movement From The Ground Up! Nothing but crumbs will come from on high from The 1% Table in The 0.01% Mansion! I believe 'ethos' change is possible in 1 Generation. + http://yanisvaroufakis.eu/

[-] 0 points by beautifulworld (22780) 2 years ago

Greece is battling odious debt. Odious debt is illegitimate debt or national debt incurred by a regime for purposes that do not serve the best interests of the nation.

The Germans were forgiven much of their debt and given very favorable terms after WWII. That they will not restructure Greece's debt in a more favorable way is just appalling. Life under austerity is a life of suffering.

[-] 0 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 2 years ago

On the bright side, I see a growing trend, where young people have forsakened the distorted, money driven traditional route, and have chosen career paths that correlate to their principles. This is often much to the chagrin of their parents.

Just earlier today in fact, one of my kids told me of a young friend of her's ...had told her that her parents were unhappy with her for not choosing a more lucrative career after graduating from Harvard. That is very heartening for me to hear.

[-] 0 points by beautifulworld (22780) 2 years ago

We do what we can, but it is really up to the younger people. They have the most to lose and gain through real change. I love hearing stories like that, about kids who are choosing to make the world a better place as opposed to being opportunists for their own benefit.

Good luck at the Left Forum this weekend. I am going to be retweeting trashyharry as much as possible. :)

[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

Once upon a time, about 2 weeks ago - Greece was still the real potential gateway to a new Europe, one that could see in Greece how to regain sovereignty, autonomy, self-determination and above all - democracy, the very wisdom Greece gave Europe 2500 years ago!

Not respecting Greek people’s democratic and overwhelming "OXI"/NO to the troika imposed austerity, Tsipras and his isolated team of Syriza members went to Brussels and accepted a ‘package’ that was worse than the one the people rejected a week before .. but by signing a ''Memorandum Of Agreement'' with the EU/ECB, - he offered the vultures of Europe, Washington, the 'City of London' and Wall Street - a sell-out of his country.

Now it is up to the people of Greece to muster sufficient courage and solidarity to stop the pillaging of their country and the ''Un-Democracy'' that is clearly unfolding in Greece and throughout Europe .. and ultimately it is also up to us The 99% in Europe and America, to ''Occupy All Streets'' for as long as it takes to get ‘regime change' from the Neoliberal Lunacy of our so called ''democratic'' governments and their financial assassination doctrine, as espoused by The Bankers who now rule over us all.

Make no mistake and it needs to be said again and again - We Are Next & The Onslaught has already begun. It is now a question of conscience as True Freedom means respecting the voice of the people!

Further to your very interesting links, do see .. "Dr Schäuble’s Plan for Europe: Do Europeans approve?" (Eng. version of article in Die Zeit) http://yanisvaroufakis.eu/2015/07/17/dr-schaubles-plan-for-europe-do-europeans-approve-english-version-of-my-article-in-die-zeit/#more-9296 by Yanis Veroufakis. Solidarity!

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (22780) 2 years ago

Lots of truth there. What happens to Greece happens to all of us. And, what happens to Palestine and what happens to black lives shot by violent cops happens to all of us. The global 99% must stick together because the status quo establishment can only be overcome through our strength in numbers and our common struggle.

[-] 1 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

Solidarity To Greece! Here's a great item: http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/31714-greece-needs-our-solidarity-in-its-struggle-against-austerity It'll reward a read but in truth, there's so little time now.Ommm

Replying to your reply comment above: ''Greece is battling odious debt. Odious debt is illegitimate debt or national debt incurred by a regime for purposes that do not serve the best interests of the nation.

''The Germans were forgiven much of their debt and given very favorable terms after WWII. That they will not restructure Greece's debt in a more favorable way is just appalling. Life under austerity is a life of suffering.''

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (22780) 2 years ago

What is Merkel doing?

Here: "Greek debt crisis: Germany 'may consider' debt relief" http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33587330

and Here: "Merkel Rules Out Greek Debt Write-Off, But Open To Other Relief" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/merkel-greek-debt_55abd25ae4b0caf721b30f47

Varoufakis says the whole thing is going to fail without major debt restructuring including debt forgiveness but with this chick in charge, god only knows what's gonna happen.

[-] 1 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 2 years ago

That "growing trend" should be very buoying to all of us. In a lotta ways, I feel like my gereration and I are in this to make amends for having dropped the ball. I could make excuses for having done so, but nothing I said would be a legitimate reason for letting our country devolve so far down. What's neat and also a very humbling is that, the younger generation very often are now teaching us, and reminding us that people are more important than money. Ever so slowly, our "ethos" (your word) are changing for the better.

[-] 2 points by trashyharry (3082) from Waterville, NY 2 years ago

Professor Wolff is a trustworthy person and would not be participating if that was the case.Every event has to be located somewhere,but I realize not everyone will be able to go.Follow @fififernghi or watch hashtag #LeftForumNYC and those of us in attendance will do our best to report on the proceedings.Please take the time to watch Professor Wolff's monthly Economic Update on Youtube.The installment for May should be posted tonight or early tomorrow.

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

Why ''The Left Matters - Now, More Than Ever'' ... http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/30936-the-left-matters-now-more-than-ever = Very interesting insights from Richard Eskow. Solidarity for 'LeftForum'.

Btw fyi, this very short excerpt: ''Wall Street, the largest source of mainstream Democratic financial support, is comfortable with socially liberal initiatives like gay marriage. But it is largely opposed to some of the specific measures that would reduce wealth inequality and encourage economic growth, especially in the areas of taxation, stronger regulations and the criminal prosecution of banker fraud.''

[-] 0 points by trashyharry (3082) from Waterville, NY 2 years ago

TWINKLE As long as it costs them nothing,or doesn't interfere with their hoovering of Profits,they really don't give a shit.

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

Here's something that Wall Street seems to find utterly intolerable, despite how very reasonable it sounds to the rest of us ... http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/30953-a-robin-hood-tax-to-pay-for-college-for-all So I hope it features well at https://twitter.com/LeftForum Have a good LeftForum th.

[-] 0 points by trashyharry (3082) from Waterville, NY 2 years ago

Twinkle

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

I hope Ada Colau, En Comu; Ciudadanos and Podemos get the mentions that they 'mos def' deserve at http://www.leftforum.org/ and so fyi: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/25/spains-indignados-ada-colau-elections-mayor-barcelona Viva Los Indignados - Spain's 99% reply to Austerity is important.

[-] 0 points by trashyharry (3082) from Waterville, NY 2 years ago

Score 1 for Occupy.TWINKLE

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

https://twitter.com/LeftForum - may be a good link to bookmark for those not going to

http://www.leftforum.org/ and have a good one 'th'. Solidarity + Don't forget to tweet :-)

Finally, fyi: http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/30978-movement-builders-should-listen-to-bernie-sanders-focus-on-mass-action-not-candidates - An excellent article that deserves wide readership.

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 2 years ago

''Left Forum is the culmination of the creative efforts of thousands of participants, panel and workshop organizers, and hundreds of volunteers who engage the gamut of conference organizing activities, from helping generate artistic events and panels, to outreach and involvement of a rainbow of organizations and individuals.'' + http://occupywallst.org/forum/for-httpwwwleftforumorg-thom-hartmann-and-profrdwo/