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Forum Post: FLAKESnews Treason?

Posted 2 years ago on Aug. 25, 2012, 11:53 p.m. EST by shoozTroll (17632)
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FLAKESnews recently outed the former seal that wrote a book on the Bin Laden raid.

Now he's receiving death threats.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/25/author-of-bin-laden-raid-memoir-facing-death-threats-after-being-outed/

Is it treason?

You decide!

It still leaves us with the question of corporate incarceration.

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[-] 3 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

don't believe in al Qaeda

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

It was a convenient label placed on a monster that we created.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

the bbc is in love with that monster

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Leaders of the pack so to speak, the whole Joe Wilson attack was about keeping the truth from getting out, not unlike this attack.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

You're preachin' to the choir here.

I can't think of a single legitimate reason for FLAKESnews to still exist......:)

[-] -1 points by brudlo (-454) 2 years ago

yes, obama , is a monster, created by marxists and promoted by the media.it's not convenient, , its the truth.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Only on FLAKESnews.

You have become what you watch. A flake.

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[-] 2 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

Better to take the chance on too much information than too little.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

I'm not sure what your point is jr.

Is that FLAKESnews, when it finally put out accurate info, was for nefarious purpose?

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

My point is that we have too much secrecy. Even local governments hold closed door meetings to negotiate contracts with waste companies. Hardly for reasons of national security.

A portion of what is classified is to conceal information that is embarrassing, immoral, or illegal. I would rather take the chance and divulge a few national secrets than take the chance that in the name of national security anything could be deemed secret so that tyranny would flourish.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Get the money out and increase transparency.

Great place to start, and it's not limited to national politics, nor should it be.

It all starts in our own backyards.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6569) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

another in a long list....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame

if we put all the Republicans in prison who committed treason, even the US would run out of room....

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

I believe FLAKESnews defended that bit of treason too.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

My point here, is that FLAKESnews has endangered someones life.

Has done so, for nefarious reasons.

There should be appropriate punishment.

[-] 2 points by letsdomore (89) 2 years ago

You're right shooz. The appropriate action is we should stay the hell out of other people's sovereign countries. Have you ever heard of the 1st amendment? A Free press ring a bell? The Bill of Rights sure are annoying little trifling things aren't they? I guess in shooz's world we just let the govt make Everything 'Top Secret', then we won't have all those pesky reporters asking questions. Welcome to shooz's Amerika.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

I'm just sayin' FLAKESnews should suffer the same fate as Assange and Manning.

Nothing more, nothing less.

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[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

There's always tarring and feathering the whole of news corps.

How I miss the good old days........:)

When an honest American could do that to the cheers of everyone!

Then they controlled the market and raised the price of tar and feathers exorbitantly.

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[-] -1 points by timirninja (263) 2 years ago

Hollywood rumor been placed to shift public attention from the real problems. i mean, come on! why do the politicians releasing bestsellers? probably to laundry the money . i personalty believe that story is quack. i didnt read it. but im assure you it would tell you many details about how Bin been killed =) this is like a chess play. the only thing for sure: if its tells true, its bad for Obama

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

So you think FLAKESnews did the correct thing?

[-] -1 points by timirninja (263) 2 years ago

DO you want to know truth?... that is the main question ! look. one marine starts whistle blowing on facebook. they taking care of him. pigeons starts murmur . and then, flash news came out cock-cow!!! Mark Owen (trump card) pigeons are happy now. and soon new movie will be released "The Expendables 2" - this is how we DO, young folks, this how you have to deal with the criminals. EAT THAT SHIT! i guess there is no another option

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Pigeons?

Movies?

Card games?

I guess the better question should be.....Are you a FLAKESnews viewer?

[-] 0 points by timirninja (263) 2 years ago

just wake up, dont get offensive, try to understand. im kind of small talk. this is been trough whole my life. you can feel what im trying to say

[-] -1 points by Lucky1 (-125) from Wray, CO 2 years ago

Why do you care?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

More importantly, why don't you care?

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[-] 0 points by Lucky1 (-125) from Wray, CO 2 years ago

While I agree with you I'll bet most of the liberal/leftists here don't.

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[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

sorry, I won't advocate killing anymore

[-] -1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

Saddam was put on trial and hung for his crimes.

Yeah they would have been killed anyway... but I prefer our country use due process when possible.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Aaah. So the Bush dictator killing was ok? Got it! Maybe you are against current reduced military action because it is a Dem?

'cause the Iraq war was the worst of all. and Saddam did not have a real trial right? But that you defend! I'll remember that.

[-] -2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

Read my below comment

"Also I should mention I did not support the Iraq war either. Technically that wasn't due process. I amend my previous statement."

Also all I said is that I'd prefer to see people put on trial when possible. What's wrong with that? How do you get "dem this republican that" out of my previous comment?

[-] -1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

You defended the Bush killing of Saddam as if it was a real trial. You believe that. We had a secret trial for Osama in absentia and it was 10x better than that farce. Please you ain't kiddin anyone. Amend my ass. This ain't the 1sttime you give repubs a pass. It's pretty consistent. You think I'm the only one who notices.

"Saddam was put on trial and hung for his crimes" Aaaaah HA ha ha ha!

Done. You are uncovered. Shill! Troll! Phony!

[-] -1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

Bush didn't kill Saddam dude. The interim government of Iraq did.

Saddam was put on trial and hung for his crimes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Saddam_Hussein

"The Trial of Saddam Hussein was the trial of the deposed President of Iraq Saddam Hussein by the Iraqi Interim Government for crimes against humanity during his time in office."

Also nothing I said gives a pass to anyone.

All I said is I'd prefer to see people put on trial than just killed.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Oh so you give the repubs & Bush a pass on the actions of Iraqi interim govt? Didn't your boy Bush create that govt? Didn't they do exactly what Bush wanted? YES!

Meanwhile you attach Blame to Pres Obama for the the Libyan rebel actions and any country he flies over!

Clearly you favor the republicans. Don't even try ton deny it. It is obvious. Shill, Troll, phony

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

I give blame to both of them for killing civilians... committing war crimes... and aggressive actions of war.

Bush should have been impeached and put on trial for war crimes. Obama should be impeached and put on trial for war crimes.

I give passes to no one when it comes to murder and war crimes.

[-] -1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

You just gave your boy Bush a big pass on the phony show trial and murder of Saddam.

"it was the interim Iraqi Govt" "Bush didn't kill Saddam" LMFAO. Thats what you said. But the libyan rebels actions who we DO NOT control you attach to Pres Obama. Partisan much?

Please, You are full of it! Troll, Shill, phony!

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

You are a moron.

Sometimes I don't think you even read what I post.

Both Bush and Obama are directly responsible for the deaths of civilians. Both Bush and Obama have directly committed war crimes.

The numbers of the dead does not change guilt.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Moron? Why? cause I caught you giving your repubs another pass? As always!

You said, "Saddam was put on trial and hung for his crime" but in an effort to give repubs a pass you neglected to mention it was a farcicle show trial!

You said, "Bush didn't kill Saddam" when of course he did, because he controlled the Iraq govt.

You provided that republican cover! While at the same time you blame Pres Obama for Libyan rebel crimes when we have NO CONTROL over them!

You can't handle these truths because they out you as an anti Dem Repub partisan, so you resort to the school yard bullying tactics of your candidate Romney!

Aaaaah Ha ha ha ha!

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[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

Agreed

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 2 years ago

Like they did in the NATO bombing of Libya?

The fact that there has been no outcry about that illegal invasion shows the depth of fear or lethargy in the general public of every western nation in the world.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

You should read more of my posts. I've talked about the illegal bombings and illegal aggressive war on Libya for a while.

Not only that but it followed failed Reagan era policies of supporting a rebel group solely because they didn't like someone we didn't like. In the 80's those policies lead to the creation of the Taliban. And these rebels even had NATO commanders admitting to the Armed services committee that there were active Hezbollah and Al Qaeda forces among the rebels. They flew an Al Qaeda flag over tripoli in the summer of last year. Evidence of rape, torture, and slaughter of civilians has come out about the rebels as well. The entire strategy taken was a smoke screen and really just part of the Neocon war agenda outlined under the Bush administration.

Iraq

Afghanistan

Libya

Lebanon

Somalia

Syria

Iran

All planned out under the Bush administration. General Wesley Clark exposed this truth back in 2007

The same time Obama was bombing Gaddafi for killing and imprisoning dissenters... Obama was working with the dictator in Yemen who was killing and imprisoning dissenters.

Gaddafi was a bad guy... but the US government had no place in that war and Gaddafi was supported by millions in his country as well as being opposed. All that happened in Libya was a continuation of the Neocon war agenda.

Also I should mention I did not support the Iraq war either. Technically that wasn't due process. I amend my previous statement.

[-] 3 points by Builder (4202) 2 years ago

Yes, agreed. I've read that the Taliban were actually paid by Brit firms interested in control over the Nubian Aquifer project, to pretend to be rebel fighters. It's a dirty old world we live in.

And sorry if you got the impression that I was blaming you for anything. Just saying. I like your posts. Just don't have the time to read everything posted here. Keep up the good work.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

I didn't get that impression. Sorry if my response gave you the impression that I got that impression... LOL

thanks dude! My favorite video is when Hillary says "We're fighting the guys our government funded 30 years ago." and goes on to talk about the failed Reagan policies while she was advocating for them in Libya. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k8hx3y5-oY

What we don't know about CIA covert ops is probably insanely scary

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 2 years ago

I tried for a decade to convince people of what Hillary said in that video. Kinda reminds me of Madelaine Albright's apology to Iran for screwing up their emerging democracy.

Humility doesn't seem to be a pre-requisite for the job.

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

They all seem to agree "the price is worth it"

[-] -1 points by timirninja (263) 2 years ago

why is that? why dont american people just to try wounded a little. whats the emergency? Yeah men, i cut my eyes on you. body was murdered and dumped to the water, no questions asked. fake movie was taken and never been approved . homeless in new york recently almost been killed by police. He stole $40 bucks from outside table of the restaurant. police got him and accidently shot him. this is the way how you should deal with criminals!

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[-] 0 points by timirninja (263) 2 years ago

i guess you the one who been screaming USA USA USA in Washington right after assassination. i dont believe in official 911 report. i dont believe to CIA officials talking about bin laden assassination. i believe that he been killed in different time line. come on men. you have big iq,why do you eat all those cia stories

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[-] 0 points by timirninja (263) 2 years ago

haha you now the deal. who the real puppets are! but listen, if i will get paid for lie, i would, for certain amount of time, and money. until i got better things to do. all my points of view - its all my sense, my condemn

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[-] -1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

"Murder the murderers" and you become just like Bin Laden. The very thing you detest.

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[-] 0 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

When a human being becomes an animal and develops a taste for human flesh, the solution is for the judge and jury to remain human beings, and not descend to the level of animals.

[-] 1 points by Mooks (1985) 2 years ago

That is very true but I really doubt Bin Laden would have been taken alive considering that Muslim fighters believe that dying for the jihad is the most noble thing possible. And his life surely isn't worth the life, or even the limb, of one of our soldiers. A couple of rounds to the forehead was really the only option unfortunately.

[-] 3 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

It would be interesting to see the footage of his death. He may have been unarmed for all we know.

The quest to take his life and followers has cost the lives of thousands of our soldiers. Don't we also praise our dead for the noble sacrifice they made?

And while the opium production in Afghanistan increased to record levels under our noses, the Taliban used the profits from the sale of opium to buy weapons that blew the brains out of our soldiers.

All we focus on is Bin laden, when the the real terrorists are our own government. Patriotism is blind to every injustice that hides underneath her skirt. You want to talk about a sick religion? Ours sacrifices it's soldiers, believing they are fighting a just cause, when in fact they die so that a few can prosper.

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[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

black&white:
I'm anti-death penalty but there is almost always a GRAY in any issue
this is the exception to prove the rule

[-] 2 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

From your viewpoint, Bin Laden was responsible for killing thousands, so he deserves to be executed without trial.

From an Iraqi point of view, Bush was responsible for killing tens of thousands, so he deserves to be executed without trial as well.

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[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

It's more acceptable than man becoming a murderer in the effort to suppress murder.

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[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

His supposed escape from Tora Bora early in the war may have been intentional. Keeping the boogey man alive to prolong their stay and get opium production up to pre Taliban levels.

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[-] 0 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

I have a hard time believing with our level of technology and the seriousness of his crime that we "accidentally" let him slip through our fingers.

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

You're absolutely right. If Bush didn't let OBL escape fr Tora Bora he wouldn't have had as much justification for the war mongering/fear mongering necessary to further his devious conservative 1% plutocrat agenda.

The elimination of OBL is required if we are to step back, from the constant war, endless war on terror the the right wing believes is the best economic policy.

OBL had to die for this country to begin the long process of demilitarization & to undo the civil rights violations (ndaa, warrentless wiretaps, etc)

[-] -1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

"OBL had to die for this country to begin the long process of demilitarization & to undo the civil rights violations (ndaa, warrentless wiretaps, etc)"

Has any of this occurred? NDAA, wiretaps, soldiers coming home?

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Long process!. I see the progress. Would be faster if war mongering repubs weren't perpetrating their party policy of scaring the shit out of the people. Of exploiting that fear to keep these laws on the books. WE must protest against these laws. Specifically, Any pol who supports them must know we are against these things. No exceptions!

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

The soldiers who had him cornered, already disclosed that the White House would not authorize an attack

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

An enemy can be worth much more alive than dead if he's used as the object of fear and purpose for war.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

An enemy can be worth much more alive than dead if he's used as the object of fear and purpose for war.

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[-] 0 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

Many would argue that Bin laden was the result of Americans soiling other's lands.

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[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

And Bin Laden's attack justifies our murdering Afghan citizens? A few hundred Al Qaeda members and we occupy an entire country?

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